Distraught about college son who’s happy about Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your son. Continue to have conversations about your values and what you observe your government doing and not doing. Ask him questions, listen to his answers, share your views.

That’s all you can do.

That could end up turning all of them Republican.

Uh no, young people that are actually observing their government and paying attention to politics are seeing the truth for what it is. The awfulness of out major political parties has caused a continuing decline in the efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government. Young people see this and the smart ones are steering clear of any affiliation with the GOP or Dem Parties. I don't blame them. We should all learn from our smart youth.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so gross. Shame on you for literally rejecting your own child because he is finding his own voice, his own philosophy on life in college. Lady, that’s what he’s supposed to do! You can disagree with him, fine, I disagree with my teens on lots of things including politics but I am beyond so so so proud of them. But you feel actual SHAME because he is a young adult and figuring things out and you don’t control him anymore? Typical Democrat cancel culture towards their own kid.

Poor kid. What shit parents he has. Rooting for him to get through life without you further damaging him. Get some therapy please.

I am not the person who says cut him off but clearly the son is rejecting the values of op and that hurts.

Are you saying that maga parents would be thrilled if their child started voting for Democrats?

I posted earlier about my college ds voting for Trump. I am a Harris voter/never Trumper. Had a sign in my yard and everything. I wish he could see the world through my own lens but he cannot. His (and his peers') world is very different and they have come of age in a very different time. I hope that one day he will figure out the nuances of public policy and the concept of real political empathy as his brain develops. But right now this is where he is in life. I don't take it personally and I don't put my political frustrations on him. When parents let things like this 'hurt' them - when kids are developing their own beliefs and views - is when parent/child relationships get toxic. Look at it dispassionately and you will see the cliche.

You gave a very thoughtful response. It is also ok to admit to yourself that you are hurt by your loved ones choices. Not saying making toxic comments but it is inportanr for your son to know. Did your son ask you why you voted for Harris? Did you ask him why he voted Trump?

I think Republicans are one thing but Trump is different. He has upended all of our societal values and determined only others need to follow them not him.

He clearly does not respect women and is able to get away with things. I find that and the ' gleefulness' of Maga very disheartening.

I have very little faith or hope now that has won.

But I am not hurt by his choice. I have faith that with maturity will come more understanding and humanity. We have open discussions about why we voted differently, and he knows why Trump is different than a true conservative. His thought process is not of malice or hate, but rather political practicality (in his mind.) He doesn't think Trump is a good person at all. I also understand that Harris never resonated with a large portion of younger men.

Ok sorry I spoke for you. I would be upset with MY son. I wouldn't understand how he could vote for that man. Thank god I only know distant relatives and they are very easy to ignore.

I know lots of people that voted for Trump and Biden. I still love them and forgive them. Everyone makes mistakes.

Did you already forget the race was between Harris and donnie? Biden already dropped out.

I will never forgive donnie voters and I am not going to miss them.

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Also never forgiving Trump voter for the next four years of chaos. The first time? Yes. This time? No.

Male college age guys may be forgiven, because their brains aren't yet maure. They will figure out what's what when Trump crashes the economy yet again right about when they are set to graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so gross. Shame on you for literally rejecting your own child because he is finding his own voice, his own philosophy on life in college. Lady, that’s what he’s supposed to do! You can disagree with him, fine, I disagree with my teens on lots of things including politics but I am beyond so so so proud of them. But you feel actual SHAME because he is a young adult and figuring things out and you don’t control him anymore? Typical Democrat cancel culture towards their own kid.

Poor kid. What shit parents he has. Rooting for him to get through life without you further damaging him. Get some therapy please.

I am not the person who says cut him off but clearly the son is rejecting the values of op and that hurts.

Are you saying that maga parents would be thrilled if their child started voting for Democrats?

I posted earlier about my college ds voting for Trump. I am a Harris voter/never Trumper. Had a sign in my yard and everything. I wish he could see the world through my own lens but he cannot. His (and his peers') world is very different and they have come of age in a very different time. I hope that one day he will figure out the nuances of public policy and the concept of real political empathy as his brain develops. But right now this is where he is in life. I don't take it personally and I don't put my political frustrations on him. When parents let things like this 'hurt' them - when kids are developing their own beliefs and views - is when parent/child relationships get toxic. Look at it dispassionately and you will see the cliche.

You gave a very thoughtful response. It is also ok to admit to yourself that you are hurt by your loved ones choices. Not saying making toxic comments but it is inportanr for your son to know. Did your son ask you why you voted for Harris? Did you ask him why he voted Trump?

I think Republicans are one thing but Trump is different. He has upended all of our societal values and determined only others need to follow them not him.

He clearly does not respect women and is able to get away with things. I find that and the ' gleefulness' of Maga very disheartening.

I have very little faith or hope now that has won.

But I am not hurt by his choice. I have faith that with maturity will come more understanding and humanity. We have open discussions about why we voted differently, and he knows why Trump is different than a true conservative. His thought process is not of malice or hate, but rather political practicality (in his mind.) He doesn't think Trump is a good person at all. I also understand that Harris never resonated with a large portion of younger men.

Ok sorry I spoke for you. I would be upset with MY son. I wouldn't understand how he could vote for that man. Thank god I only know distant relatives and they are very easy to ignore.

I know lots of people that voted for Trump and Biden. I still love them and forgive them. Everyone makes mistakes.

Did you already forget the race was between Harris and donnie? Biden already dropped out.

I will never forgive donnie voters and I am not going to miss them.

Harris was thrown under the bus by Biden's greed and selfishness. She never had a chance. Trump winning in 2024 is 0% Harris' fault and 100% Biden's fault. I still forgive those that voted for Biden but I sure hope they've learned a lesson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your son. Continue to have conversations about your values and what you observe your government doing and not doing. Ask him questions, listen to his answers, share your views.

That’s all you can do.

That could end up turning all of them Republican.

Uh no, young people that are actually observing their government and paying attention to politics are seeing the truth for what it is. The awfulness of out major political parties has caused a continuing decline in the efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government. Young people see this and the smart ones are steering clear of any affiliation with the GOP or Dem Parties. I don't blame them. We should all learn from our smart youth.

Well you couldn't seem to understand the post, so I don't think I will listen to your opinion of who is smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your son. Continue to have conversations about your values and what you observe your government doing and not doing. Ask him questions, listen to his answers, share your views.

That’s all you can do.

That could end up turning all of them Republican.

Uh no, young people that are actually observing their government and paying attention to politics are seeing the truth for what it is. The awfulness of out major political parties has caused a continuing decline in the efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government. Young people see this and the smart ones are steering clear of any affiliation with the GOP or Dem Parties. I don't blame them. We should all learn from our smart youth.

Well you couldn't seem to understand the post, so I don't think I will listen to your opinion of who is smart.

My apologies for the insensitive post and I'm sorry you're son has temporarily lost his mind. Many young people are steering clear of Trump along with the GOP and Dem parties and with any luck, your son will follow.

[Anonymous]

Look on the bright side, OP. If he's espousing Republican views, he's likely to get married, have children, a stable career, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Look on the bright side, OP. If he's espousing Republican views, he's likely to get married, have children, a stable career, etc.

Didn't work out so well for Alex Keaton.

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You don’t know how bad it is on college campuses in 2024. My experience in college 10 years ago drove me to the right. Leftists are their own worst enemy.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I’d feel like a failure as a parent if my children had voted for Trump.
However, OP’s son may be immature, rebelling; I would try to engage him in conversation, listen to him; he may still see the light.

Even if you knew the VP and how bad she is at so many of the key things needed to be POTUS? It’s so hard to lie to your kids.

Dp. But we don't think that. Many of you knowingly admit you know he is an immoral and corrupt man and yet you still voted for him.

Why do you think so many of his Generals and Republicans wanted us to vote for Harris? Probably the first time I have seen so many endorse Democrats!

And yet, it gave you no pause...

Regarding morality...

What if the the real reason Biden helped expand the prison state and lamented schools turning into a "racial jungle" was because plantation mentality appeals to him?
What if Biden's reputation of being weak on the border while paradoxically heavy on deportation comes from the fact that he's very ok with exploiting Latinos.
What if Biden's support for Israel really is support for a Palestinian genocide, and that's why he's doing it?
What if it's no coincidence that Biden is fervent supports historically Nazi/fascist groups?
What if the reason Biden is willing to put humanity at risk of global nuclear annihilation is due to an addiction to McCarthyist dogma?
What if Biden throws billions upon billions of American dollars at another country's pension accounts mostly because he doesn't particularly think much of the poor - or even the middle class, for that matter?
What if Biden's career-long indulgence in warmongering owes to a fundamental sense of xenophobia?
What if the main driver behind the Democrats' equity in academic admissions policies really is anti-Asian sentiment?
What if the predatory touching of underage girls that Biden has substantively been accused of doing stems from a lack of respect for women?

I'm just not sure that confidently calling out Trump's morality is quite the position of strength people would like it to be, since guys like this often end up being the beneficiaries.

No, pp. It’s not possible. Because Democrats are altruistic and wholly good. They care about people, and want things to be nice for everyone. They are smarter than everyone else. They wear the white hats.

The other half of the country is pure, unadulterated evil. They hate women and minorities and want everything to be awful for everyone except for white men. They are all very stupid. They wear the black hats.

There can’t POSSIBLY be more nuance than that. That is why OP and so many others here are “distraught.”

97% of Americans are decent, well meaning people. You people have, by design, been divided by well crafted messaging from the awful two major parties you associate with. This is making otherwise intelligent people sounds really, really gullible and simple-minded.

Just stop it. Your fellow citizens aren't the problem. The problem lies within the toxic culture of your political parties and your blind love affairs with awful politicians like Trump and Biden. Wake the eff up people.

The problem is wealth inequality and yet we just elected a cabal of billionaires.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your son. Continue to have conversations about your values and what you observe your government doing and not doing. Ask him questions, listen to his answers, share your views.

That’s all you can do.

That could end up turning all of them Republican.

Uh no, young people that are actually observing their government and paying attention to politics are seeing the truth for what it is. The awfulness of out major political parties has caused a continuing decline in the efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government. Young people see this and the smart ones are steering clear of any affiliation with the GOP or Dem Parties. I don't blame them. We should all learn from our smart youth.

Yes, that will happen when you spend all your time plotting to put your political adversaries in prison and amplifying the leftist loons in your party with policies like defund the police, dump student debt on the taxpayer, and push transitional surgery on minors, and have a full hate-on for Israel.

It's along list that might abend the DCUM server, so I'll curtail it.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I’d feel like a failure as a parent if my children had voted for Trump.
However, OP’s son may be immature, rebelling; I would try to engage him in conversation, listen to him; he may still see the light.

Even if you knew the VP and how bad she is at so many of the key things needed to be POTUS? It’s so hard to lie to your kids.

Dp. But we don't think that. Many of you knowingly admit you know he is an immoral and corrupt man and yet you still voted for him.

Why do you think so many of his Generals and Republicans wanted us to vote for Harris? Probably the first time I have seen so many endorse Democrats!

And yet, it gave you no pause...

Regarding morality...

What if the the real reason Biden helped expand the prison state and lamented schools turning into a "racial jungle" was because plantation mentality appeals to him?
What if Biden's reputation of being weak on the border while paradoxically heavy on deportation comes from the fact that he's very ok with exploiting Latinos.
What if Biden's support for Israel really is support for a Palestinian genocide, and that's why he's doing it?
What if it's no coincidence that Biden is fervent supports historically Nazi/fascist groups?
What if the reason Biden is willing to put humanity at risk of global nuclear annihilation is due to an addiction to McCarthyist dogma?
What if Biden throws billions upon billions of American dollars at another country's pension accounts mostly because he doesn't particularly think much of the poor - or even the middle class, for that matter?
What if Biden's career-long indulgence in warmongering owes to a fundamental sense of xenophobia?
What if the main driver behind the Democrats' equity in academic admissions policies really is anti-Asian sentiment?
What if the predatory touching of underage girls that Biden has substantively been accused of doing stems from a lack of respect for women?

I'm just not sure that confidently calling out Trump's morality is quite the position of strength people would like it to be, since guys like this often end up being the beneficiaries.

No, pp. It’s not possible. Because Democrats are altruistic and wholly good. They care about people, and want things to be nice for everyone. They are smarter than everyone else. They wear the white hats.

The other half of the country is pure, unadulterated evil. They hate women and minorities and want everything to be awful for everyone except for white men. They are all very stupid. They wear the black hats.

There can’t POSSIBLY be more nuance than that. That is why OP and so many others here are “distraught.”

97% of Americans are decent, well meaning people. You people have, by design, been divided by well crafted messaging from the awful two major parties you associate with. This is making otherwise intelligent people sounds really, really gullible and simple-minded.

Just stop it. Your fellow citizens aren't the problem. The problem lies within the toxic culture of your political parties and your blind love affairs with awful politicians like Trump and Biden. Wake the eff up people.

The problem is wealth inequality and yet we just elected a cabal of billionaires.

YOU have caused the wealth inequality through piss-poor policies that cause unintended consequences that benefit certain groups.

In short, the more you do, the worse things get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I’d feel like a failure as a parent if my children had voted for Trump.
However, OP’s son may be immature, rebelling; I would try to engage him in conversation, listen to him; he may still see the light.

Even if you knew the VP and how bad she is at so many of the key things needed to be POTUS? It’s so hard to lie to your kids.

Dp. But we don't think that. Many of you knowingly admit you know he is an immoral and corrupt man and yet you still voted for him.

Why do you think so many of his Generals and Republicans wanted us to vote for Harris? Probably the first time I have seen so many endorse Democrats!

And yet, it gave you no pause...

Regarding morality...

What if the the real reason Biden helped expand the prison state and lamented schools turning into a "racial jungle" was because plantation mentality appeals to him?
What if Biden's reputation of being weak on the border while paradoxically heavy on deportation comes from the fact that he's very ok with exploiting Latinos.
What if Biden's support for Israel really is support for a Palestinian genocide, and that's why he's doing it?
What if it's no coincidence that Biden is fervent supports historically Nazi/fascist groups?
What if the reason Biden is willing to put humanity at risk of global nuclear annihilation is due to an addiction to McCarthyist dogma?
What if Biden throws billions upon billions of American dollars at another country's pension accounts mostly because he doesn't particularly think much of the poor - or even the middle class, for that matter?
What if Biden's career-long indulgence in warmongering owes to a fundamental sense of xenophobia?
What if the main driver behind the Democrats' equity in academic admissions policies really is anti-Asian sentiment?
What if the predatory touching of underage girls that Biden has substantively been accused of doing stems from a lack of respect for women?

I'm just not sure that confidently calling out Trump's morality is quite the position of strength people would like it to be, since guys like this often end up being the beneficiaries.

No, pp. It’s not possible. Because Democrats are altruistic and wholly good. They care about people, and want things to be nice for everyone. They are smarter than everyone else. They wear the white hats.

The other half of the country is pure, unadulterated evil. They hate women and minorities and want everything to be awful for everyone except for white men. They are all very stupid. They wear the black hats.

There can’t POSSIBLY be more nuance than that. That is why OP and so many others here are “distraught.”

97% of Americans are decent, well meaning people. You people have, by design, been divided by well crafted messaging from the awful two major parties you associate with. This is making otherwise intelligent people sounds really, really gullible and simple-minded.

Just stop it. Your fellow citizens aren't the problem. The problem lies within the toxic culture of your political parties and your blind love affairs with awful politicians like Trump and Biden. Wake the eff up people.

The problem is wealth inequality and yet we just elected a cabal of billionaires.

Both Biden and Harris surrounded themselves with multi-millionaire and billionaire friends who influenced their decisions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/30/kamala-harris-has-more-billionaires-prominently-backing-her-than-trump-bezos-and-griffin-weigh-in-updated/

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I’d feel like a failure as a parent if my children had voted for Trump.
However, OP’s son may be immature, rebelling; I would try to engage him in conversation, listen to him; he may still see the light.

Even if you knew the VP and how bad she is at so many of the key things needed to be POTUS? It’s so hard to lie to your kids.

Dp. But we don't think that. Many of you knowingly admit you know he is an immoral and corrupt man and yet you still voted for him.

Why do you think so many of his Generals and Republicans wanted us to vote for Harris? Probably the first time I have seen so many endorse Democrats!

And yet, it gave you no pause...

Regarding morality...

What if the the real reason Biden helped expand the prison state and lamented schools turning into a "racial jungle" was because plantation mentality appeals to him?
What if Biden's reputation of being weak on the border while paradoxically heavy on deportation comes from the fact that he's very ok with exploiting Latinos.
What if Biden's support for Israel really is support for a Palestinian genocide, and that's why he's doing it?
What if it's no coincidence that Biden is fervent supports historically Nazi/fascist groups?
What if the reason Biden is willing to put humanity at risk of global nuclear annihilation is due to an addiction to McCarthyist dogma?
What if Biden throws billions upon billions of American dollars at another country's pension accounts mostly because he doesn't particularly think much of the poor - or even the middle class, for that matter?
What if Biden's career-long indulgence in warmongering owes to a fundamental sense of xenophobia?
What if the main driver behind the Democrats' equity in academic admissions policies really is anti-Asian sentiment?
What if the predatory touching of underage girls that Biden has substantively been accused of doing stems from a lack of respect for women?

I'm just not sure that confidently calling out Trump's morality is quite the position of strength people would like it to be, since guys like this often end up being the beneficiaries.

No, pp. It’s not possible. Because Democrats are altruistic and wholly good. They care about people, and want things to be nice for everyone. They are smarter than everyone else. They wear the white hats.

The other half of the country is pure, unadulterated evil. They hate women and minorities and want everything to be awful for everyone except for white men. They are all very stupid. They wear the black hats.

There can’t POSSIBLY be more nuance than that. That is why OP and so many others here are “distraught.”

97% of Americans are decent, well meaning people. You people have, by design, been divided by well crafted messaging from the awful two major parties you associate with. This is making otherwise intelligent people sounds really, really gullible and simple-minded.

Just stop it. Your fellow citizens aren't the problem. The problem lies within the toxic culture of your political parties and your blind love affairs with awful politicians like Trump and Biden. Wake the eff up people.

The problem is wealth inequality and yet we just elected a cabal of billionaires.

YOU have caused the wealth inequality through piss-poor policies that cause unintended consequences that benefit certain groups.

In short, the more you do, the worse things get.

The problem begins with the phrase "wealth inequality". Why on earth should wealth be equal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look on the bright side, OP. If he's espousing Republican views, he's likely to get married, have children, a stable career, etc.

Didn't work out so well for Alex Keaton.

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