Distraught about college son who’s happy about Trump

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just be proud that you raised an intelligent, independent, young man who sees that the progressive movement has gone off the deep end. No doubt equally embarrassed to speak to his friends about his whacko parents.

Recognizing one wrong doesn't make it "okay" to drift towards another wrong. There are no homes in modern day major political parties for young people who want to make the world a better place. Surely, you are smart enough to realize this.

Young people nowadays barely remember Obama.
They don't remember the 2008 financial crash and how Obama pulled us away from the brink of a global depression.
They don't have any Republicans top compare Trump to. As far as they are concerned the choices are wokeness and MAGA. And they are increasingly choosing MAGA over Wokeness.
Let that sink in. Your woke crap is worse than MAGA to someone new on the scene.

Well said

Obama was a terrible president. He did nothing for the country besides building cages for kids and put a tax fine on those who couldn’t afford Obamacare.

Umkay, well Obama did have this thing called presidential level leadership skill that we've desperately missed since 2017. That's more important than policy.

[Anonymous]

I completely understand OP's disappointment.

Given that Trump tried everything he could think of to overturn my vote and that of millions of Americans, I took it very personally when an extended family member said they support him. I want nothing to do with him.

Forget Trump's policies and his immorality. He is a traitor who belongs in jail for sedition. If those reacting to OP here can't understand why this isn't just politics to us, then you're being deliberately obtuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

NP. Democrats are also for the entire transgender agenda that no one sane wants. They lied about the border crisis until they couldn't get away with their lies any longer and rolled back the Trump initiatives keeping the crisis in check. They lied about the problem of inflation and then expected credit for stemming the problem they claimed didn't didn't exist. They overreacted to the pandemic and spearheaded school closures that set back a generation of the most vulnerable students. They propped up a cognitively impaired president and colluded with the media to lie about his faculties. I could go on.

Democrats seem to be really mad that voters saw both the good and the bad that Democrats stand for and decided the overall package was inferior. Too bad you're judged not just by what you want voters to see, but by everything you're doing.

This. I am an unaffiliated swing voter who usually votes Democrat. Not this year. I won’t be voting Dem again until they have sane policies on crime and DEI and the transgender nonsense stops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

Of course, they are so scared of not being in charge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

NP. Democrats are also for the entire transgender agenda that no one sane wants. They lied about the border crisis until they couldn't get away with their lies any longer and rolled back the Trump initiatives keeping the crisis in check. They lied about the problem of inflation and then expected credit for stemming the problem they claimed didn't didn't exist. They overreacted to the pandemic and spearheaded school closures that set back a generation of the most vulnerable students. They propped up a cognitively impaired president and colluded with the media to lie about his faculties. I could go on.

Democrats seem to be really mad that voters saw both the good and the bad that Democrats stand for and decided the overall package was inferior. Too bad you're judged not just by what you want voters to see, but by everything you're doing.

This. I am an unaffiliated swing voter who usually votes Democrat. Not this year. I won’t be voting Dem again until they have sane policies on crime and DEI and the transgender nonsense stops.

Um, ok, but a president who didn’t accept the 2020 election results, tried to invalidate my vote and millions of others because he lost? That person is ok to be potus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

Of course, they are so scared of not being in charge.

exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

NP. Democrats are also for the entire transgender agenda that no one sane wants. They lied about the border crisis until they couldn't get away with their lies any longer and rolled back the Trump initiatives keeping the crisis in check. They lied about the problem of inflation and then expected credit for stemming the problem they claimed didn't didn't exist. They overreacted to the pandemic and spearheaded school closures that set back a generation of the most vulnerable students. They propped up a cognitively impaired president and colluded with the media to lie about his faculties. I could go on.

Democrats seem to be really mad that voters saw both the good and the bad that Democrats stand for and decided the overall package was inferior. Too bad you're judged not just by what you want voters to see, but by everything you're doing.

This. I am an unaffiliated swing voter who usually votes Democrat. Not this year. I won’t be voting Dem again until they have sane policies on crime and DEI and the transgender nonsense stops.

Um, ok, but a president who didn’t accept the 2020 election results, tried to invalidate my vote and millions of others because he lost? That person is ok to be potus?

Many voters picked what they saw as the lesser of two evils. More saw the Democratic candidate and policies as worse, despite the personal character deficiencies in the Republican candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

NP. Democrats are also for the entire transgender agenda that no one sane wants. They lied about the border crisis until they couldn't get away with their lies any longer and rolled back the Trump initiatives keeping the crisis in check. They lied about the problem of inflation and then expected credit for stemming the problem they claimed didn't didn't exist. They overreacted to the pandemic and spearheaded school closures that set back a generation of the most vulnerable students. They propped up a cognitively impaired president and colluded with the media to lie about his faculties. I could go on.

Democrats seem to be really mad that voters saw both the good and the bad that Democrats stand for and decided the overall package was inferior. Too bad you're judged not just by what you want voters to see, but by everything you're doing.

This. I am an unaffiliated swing voter who usually votes Democrat. Not this year. I won’t be voting Dem again until they have sane policies on crime and DEI and the transgender nonsense stops.

Um, ok, but a president who didn’t accept the 2020 election results, tried to invalidate my vote and millions of others because he lost? That person is ok to be potus?

Many voters picked what they saw as the lesser of two evils. More saw the Democratic candidate and policies as worse, despite the personal character deficiencies in the Republican candidate.

And why that is acceptable to voters is why we are in this mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

Of course, they are so scared of not being in charge.

exactly

Everybody wants to move to and break in to countries developed by white men and live in the modern civilization where white men invented 99 percent of inventions, creations, lifestyle, political and educational systems, entertainment, architecture, transportation types and systems, agricultural systems, machinery, technology and music.

Can’t blame them for noticing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

NP. Democrats are also for the entire transgender agenda that no one sane wants. They lied about the border crisis until they couldn't get away with their lies any longer and rolled back the Trump initiatives keeping the crisis in check. They lied about the problem of inflation and then expected credit for stemming the problem they claimed didn't didn't exist. They overreacted to the pandemic and spearheaded school closures that set back a generation of the most vulnerable students. They propped up a cognitively impaired president and colluded with the media to lie about his faculties. I could go on.

Democrats seem to be really mad that voters saw both the good and the bad that Democrats stand for and decided the overall package was inferior. Too bad you're judged not just by what you want voters to see, but by everything you're doing.

This. I am an unaffiliated swing voter who usually votes Democrat. Not this year. I won’t be voting Dem again until they have sane policies on crime and DEI and the transgender nonsense stops.

Um, ok, but a president who didn’t accept the 2020 election results, tried to invalidate my vote and millions of others because he lost? That person is ok to be potus?

Many voters picked what they saw as the lesser of two evils. More saw the Democratic candidate and policies as worse, despite the personal character deficiencies in the Republican candidate.

Except now they're gradually realizing that the Republican policies are all lies, smoke and mirrors, and worse than the Democrat policies. It really just boiled down to a collection of overblown grievances, like transmen taking over womens sports and so on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

Of course, they are so scared of not being in charge.

exactly

Everybody wants to move to and break in to countries developed by white men and live in the modern civilization where white men invented 99 percent of inventions, creations, lifestyle, political and educational systems, entertainment, architecture, transportation types and systems, agricultural systems, machinery, technology and music.

Can’t blame them for noticing.

You should spend less time here and more time reading history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Dem party website.

They list all of the groups that they support but males are not listed.

So sad for these white men. They are so used to have an advantage for centuries that they don’t know how to deal when other peoples are giving similar opportunities.

Your comments are why you lost the working class voters and young white male voters like OP's son.

Of course, they are so scared of not being in charge.

exactly

Everybody wants to move to and break in to countries developed by white men and live in the modern civilization where white men invented 99 percent of inventions, creations, lifestyle, political and educational systems, entertainment, architecture, transportation types and systems, agricultural systems, machinery, technology and music.

Can’t blame them for noticing.

What the heck is this nonsense? Like the other PP said, read some history.

[Anonymous]

Such open-minded, tolerant people. The lack of self awareness is sadly typical

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, sit down and have a long conversation with him, but don’t catch him off-guard. Tell him that you are interested in hearing what it is he likes about Trump, and ask when would be a good time to talk. He will likely show you tiktoks. Once you see how incredibly convincing these tiktoks are, you will begin to understand how he got pulled in. Calmly and explicitly, explain to him the inaccuracies, and back it up with evidence. Real evidence, not biased sources. For example, if he claims Project 2025 isn’t that bad, pull up the actual document. No need for secondary sources here. It is all spelled out. If he says the Trump indictments are dems weaponizing the justice system, pull up the actual 34 documents. Again, straight to the primary sources. It won’t happen overnight, but teaching him to use reliable sources to become informed is the most helpful thing you can do for him. Give him time. Keep having conversations. Good luck, OP.

Many people voted explictly against the democrat party agenda. You had better start facing up to that. I'm talking about the hate-America-first, endless uncontrolled immigration, woke, soft-on-crime, no common-sense agenda. Nothing overcomes that.

Did you hear it? Have you taken note?

Not the message I am getting. democrats are for reproductive healthcare for women, healthcare costs, addressing climate change, common sense gun control. Poll after poll has shown that the majority of Americans are aligned with these issues.

Sadly most voted against their own self interests.

How do you know what other people’s self interests are?

Democrats and especially progressives know what is best for you. Just ask them and they’ll tell you.