Toxic Masculinity

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Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity is at its worst with evangelicals where women are taught that the man is the boss of the household. Women are taught to be subservient.

This isn’t the way I would choose to live, but it’s not necessarily toxic. It many ways it can be freeing to have an established system of rules and norms in place.

The whole trad-wife / SAHM thing is absolutely caused by toxic masculinity.

Nonsense. Nothing wrong with wanting to care for your children.

There's a difference between being a SAHP and buying into this tradwife stuff. My mom was a SAHM for periods when we were young but my Dad didn't treat her like she was subservient, they made decisions collaboratively and my Dad didn't foist all housework and childcare on her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity is at its worst with evangelicals where women are taught that the man is the boss of the household. Women are taught to be subservient.

This isn’t the way I would choose to live, but it’s not necessarily toxic. It many ways it can be freeing to have an established system of rules and norms in place.

The whole trad-wife / SAHM thing is absolutely caused by toxic masculinity.

No, I think it's mostly caused by the fact that despite so much talk of equality there is a lot of strain on women in the workplace, so many places still do not offer paternity leave or frown upon it, childcare is too expensive, public and free schooling in the US starts too late...Conditions are rampant for women to have a terrible work experience AND still be care givers. So many opt out. Part of why the system isn't getting fixed might be toxic masculinity, but it's also women making choices because of it: they simply opt out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity is at its worst with evangelicals where women are taught that the man is the boss of the household. Women are taught to be subservient.

This isn’t the way I would choose to live, but it’s not necessarily toxic. It many ways it can be freeing to have an established system of rules and norms in place.

The whole trad-wife / SAHM thing is absolutely caused by toxic masculinity.

Actually, the whole trad-wife thing isn’t actually a real thing (seriously you need a break from the internet if you’re outraged by this), and SAHMs are perfectly functional, respectable members of society and always have been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

It’s a ridiculous myth.

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

It’s a ridiculous myth.

This. Imagine the reverse "Toxic Femininity". That would cause all sorts of reeee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

And your point is what?

[Anonymous]

Disavow those “reviving Ophelia” and presenting other falsehoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

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NP.

What does this even mean?

Are young women admiring him in the way women of my mother’s generation viewed men like Che Guevara as some type of “exciting bad-boy” or charismatic rebel?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Toxic masculinity is at its worst with evangelicals where women are taught that the man is the boss of the household. Women are taught to be subservient.

This isn’t the way I would choose to live, but it’s not necessarily toxic. It many ways it can be freeing to have an established system of rules and norms in place.

The whole trad-wife / SAHM thing is absolutely caused by toxic masculinity.

Nonsense. Nothing wrong with wanting to care for your children.

There's a difference between being a SAHP and buying into this tradwife stuff. My mom was a SAHM for periods when we were young but my Dad didn't treat her like she was subservient, they made decisions collaboratively and my Dad didn't foist all housework and childcare on her.

OK- but be honest: there probably was some level of power-imbalance, correct?

I don’t see how the whole SAHM/ tradwife thing plays out without a power imbalance.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you define “toxic masculinity”?

The term “toxic masculinity” points to a particular version of masculinity that is unhealthy for the men and boys who conform to it, and harmful for those around them.

The phrase emphasises the worst aspects of stereotypically masculine attributes. Toxic masculinity is represented by qualities such as violence, dominance, emotional illiteracy, sexual entitlement, and hostility to femininity.

That’s a very dry, nonspecific, clinical sounding definition.

What does it look like IRL? In practice.

Seriously, PP? You can't think of men who have violent tendencies, a dominant personality, no way to connect to emotions like sadness, empathy, etc., believe they are entitled to sex, and dislike women who exhibit behaviors and beliefs that don't feed the male ego?

No, I can’t. No one I’ve ever dated has thought sexual assault or rape was a-ok. I’ve never been hit by a man outside of a dojo or boxing ring. My husband does dishes, changed diapers on our kids, and knows how to use a sewing machine, despite being very much the typical cliched “hyper masculine guy” - combat vet, MMA fighter, rides motorcycles, watches sports, generally gives off aggressive a-hole vibes to people who don’t know him, lol. Every one of you would probably say he’s a poster boy for toxic masculinity by his appearance. So is he? Because I don’t believe he is.

Is your husband the only man you know?

If yes, that’s an example of toxic masculinity. Not allowing your spouse to interact with other men is very toxic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

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NP.

What does this even mean?

Are young women admiring him in the way women of my mother’s generation viewed men like Che Guevara as some type of “exciting bad-boy” or charismatic rebel?

NP. To me he’s Toxic Masculinity since he thinks he’s single-handedly helping all the dumb people see the light and save them all.

He’s also toxic masculinity bc he had no coping skills after being a laid off digital nomad who instead of getting grounded with IRL in-person friends or family, self radicalized into his current Jesus complex state.

That or he has a brain tumor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

??

NP.

What does this even mean?

Are young women admiring him in the way women of my mother’s generation viewed men like Che Guevara as some type of “exciting bad-boy” or charismatic rebel?

NP. To me he’s Toxic Masculinity since he thinks he’s single-handedly helping all the dumb people see the light and save them all.

He’s also toxic masculinity bc he had no coping skills after being a laid off digital nomad who instead of getting grounded with IRL in-person friends or family, self radicalized into his current Jesus complex state.

That or he has a brain tumor.

to me he is showing his toxic masculinity because he got a gun, which is almost invariably a sign of mental compensation for an inadequately small p*nis.

[Anonymous]

His self righteous written accolades of himself turn me off. I’m an engineer so blah blah, I’m a one bag traveler so blah blah, I think you should edit your book so blah blah, I’m a genius so am traveling.

I know toxic males like that and it’s not cute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

Luigi Mangione

??

NP.

What does this even mean?

Are young women admiring him in the way women of my mother’s generation viewed men like Che Guevara as some type of “exciting bad-boy” or charismatic rebel?

NP. To me he’s Toxic Masculinity since he thinks he’s single-handedly helping all the dumb people see the light and save them all.

He’s also toxic masculinity bc he had no coping skills after being a laid off digital nomad who instead of getting grounded with IRL in-person friends or family, self radicalized into his current Jesus complex state.

That or he has a brain tumor.

to me he is showing his toxic masculinity because he got a gun, which is almost invariably a sign of mental compensation for an inadequately small p*nis.

So, what you’re saying is, if you have a gun, you have a small p*nis? I guess all male police officers have a small p*nis…