Why are ivies and other elite NE schools out, southern schools in?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone looking to have a great college experience, what do you prefer?

this environment at the ivies

or this

This pretty much distills it. And the fact that all of the top 30 are like 90% international, Indian, Asian, and Jewish students and faculty. If you’re a normal smart devout Christian kid, it’s perfectly natural to lack interest in such an environment.

Yikes. You're not giving off a very Jesus-y vibe.

It is stunning how few white Christian kids there are at the T15 if not the T30. Diversity is good but at the T15 you’re not just a tiny marginalized minority, the campus ethos is often harshly anti-white Christian. To Christian kids who value faith, Christian culture, and seek to marry a fellow Christian, being around a lot of Christian peers is obviously the ideal.

Anyone attacking or talking down on white Christian kids for preferring to be around more of their peers (at say Southern colleges and universities, with the added benefit of great weather) is akin to attacking Black kids who seek HBCUs. It’s a free country and college is very expensive, parents should send their kids to colleges they’ll be happy at. There’s more to life than being some ruthless scheming grind who has to get into a top medical school or work for some consulting firm or figure out how to scam investors. I went to an undergrad like that 30 years ago and it was miserable. My ambitious high school friends who went to so-called “party colleges” are all very successful and live great lives.

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I’m not seeing southern schools bring “in”. My college kids see most southern schools as a bit of a joke. No offense intended, I’m sure for those in the south who embrace the culture are happy to go.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m reading the recent biography on Gwyneth and she didn’t get accepted anywhere, even coming from Spence. In mean girl fashion, she lashed out at a Barnard-accepted classmate - sneering that it was a fake Ivy.

Interestingly her husband was able to get his kids admitted to Ivies (Cornell, Yale) but she couldn’t buy Apple’s way into one.

I can’t speak for Apple Martin but normal kids do not give a flying f*** about Ivies, let alone Cornell (lol). Who the heck wants to go to college in the middle in nowhere upstate New York?

Obsessing over the Ivies (any Ivy) is such an insecure striver thing, often first or second gen immigrants, and a TJ magnet school thing. In retrospect most parents will later admit how stupid and pointless the whole obsession and admissions rat race was.

These smart fun UMC and rich kids honing in on a semi-selective happy school in the South are wise beyond their years. They’re voting with their feet. They are totally disinterested in associating with the ethos the super selective northern colleges have cultivated.

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I will say this. People on this board cannot have it both ways. If you can go to school anywhere -- if the top schools do not matter that much for future life -- then why not go where it is sunny and fun? Fun and you get an education. As a PP pointed out -- grads are full of lawyers, doctors, execs. Recruiting for IBs, consulting firms is robust at Emory, Vandy, Duke, WashU, and others. Why not go there.

Probably only 10% of kids would avoid the South because of politics. 10% probably would go because of politics. The other 80% could not care less.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing southern schools bring “in”. My college kids see most southern schools as a bit of a joke. No offense intended, I’m sure for those in the south who embrace the culture are happy to go.

This is just not true. No one thinks Vandy, Duke, UF, UG are jokes.

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Interestingly her husband was able to get his kids admitted to Ivies (Cornell, Yale) but she couldn’t buy Apple’s way into one.

She got expelled from her previous high school for bullying.

Yep. She’s not know for her intellect. Her brother is at Brown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone looking to have a great college experience, what do you prefer?

this environment at the ivies

or this

Neither. The bottom videos are a nightmare of eating disorders, spray tans, and excessive reliance on men to do everything and drive all the decisions in your life. The top is just annoying.
I guess this is the conservative dream, though, which is pretty sad.

Sorry you wouldn’t get a bid.

This is such a lame comment and is exhibit A for why people look down on sorority girls. It’s so sad that you are a grown woman saying this - it makes you sound like a vapid mean girl. Not to mention we all know admission to a sorority doesn’t make you cool. Every campus has a few sororities filled with very undesirable girls that no one wants to party with. Sound familiar to you? Signed Sorority Rho Chi

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies are not pretty people having parties and big football games positioning. Ivy females are posting fewer makeup, hair, clothes, lifestyle selfies.
Volvo vs Mustang.

Mustangs are so fun!😁

SEC campuses are full of Volvo and BMW. It’s laughable how out of touch some of these grannies are, still living in the 90’s or 00’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies are not pretty people having parties and big football games positioning. Ivy females are posting fewer makeup, hair, clothes, lifestyle selfies.
Volvo vs Mustang.

Mustangs are so fun!😁

SEC campuses are full of Volvo and BMW. It’s laughable how out of touch some of these grannies are, still living in the 90’s or 00’s.

Priceless. You didn’t understand the posts or that they were using cars as metaphors.

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^^^ difference between SEC boosters & Ivy boosters

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this. People on this board cannot have it both ways. If you can go to school anywhere -- if the top schools do not matter that much for future life -- then why not go where it is sunny and fun? Fun and you get an education. As a PP pointed out -- grads are full of lawyers, doctors, execs. Recruiting for IBs, consulting firms is robust at Emory, Vandy, Duke, WashU, and others. Why not go there.

Probably only 10% of kids would avoid the South because of politics. 10% probably would go because of politics. The other 80% could not care less.

DD has these thoughts of fun, so she went to UCLA. Going to backwards Mississippi was no where in the picture, because that’s an idiotic decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy is the place for social, smart kids now!

And if you like LACs, top pick is Davidson!

No, it's not! Davidson isn't even a top 20 most competitive LAC!!!!!

DP.

Davidson getting tons of attention from my 11th grader’s cohort.

It’s having a moment.

That’s cool and all but we have actual stats and numbers. Davidson is not that competitive.

Speaking of actual numbers, 14% acceptance is “not that competitive”?

Lower than Carleton, Vassar, etc. and comparable to Midd, Hamilton, Colgate et al.

Not quite Williams or Pomona, but any fair assessment would conclude that it’s competitive.

Unless of course you’re just being a DCUM pedant. In which case, carry on.

Oh look, an artificial acceptance rate carried by ed and a much less competitive applicant pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy is the place for social, smart kids now!

And if you like LACs, top pick is Davidson!

No, it's not! Davidson isn't even a top 20 most competitive LAC!!!!!

DP.

Davidson getting tons of attention from my 11th grader’s cohort.

It’s having a moment.

That’s cool and all but we have actual stats and numbers. Davidson is not that competitive.

Speaking of actual numbers, 14% acceptance is “not that competitive”?

Lower than Carleton, Vassar, etc. and comparable to Midd, Hamilton, Colgate et al.

Not quite Williams or Pomona, but any fair assessment would conclude that it’s competitive.

Unless of course you’re just being a DCUM pedant. In which case, carry on.

Oh look, an artificial acceptance rate carried by ed and a much less competitive applicant pool.

DCUM pedant. As expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone looking to have a great college experience, what do you prefer?

this environment at the ivies

or this

This pretty much distills it. And the fact that all of the top 30 are like 90% international, Indian, Asian, and Jewish students and faculty. If you’re a normal smart devout Christian kid, it’s perfectly natural to lack interest in such an environment.

Umm, scantily clad young women who are obsessed with their appearance, devotees of crass consumerism, strive for societal status, and/or like to drink too much at fraternity parties are not what I consider "devout Christian" students. My kids, whose Christian faith is important to them, want no part of such a lifestyle and, while actively engaged in Christian groups, are happy to develop relationships and have honest coversations with students of many backgrounds and beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone looking to have a great college experience, what do you prefer?

this environment at the ivies

or this

Neither. The bottom videos are a nightmare of eating disorders, spray tans, and excessive reliance on men to do everything and drive all the decisions in your life. The top is just annoying.
I guess this is the conservative dream, though, which is pretty sad.

Sorry you wouldn’t get a bid.

This is such a lame comment and is exhibit A for why people look down on sorority girls. It’s so sad that you are a grown woman saying this - it makes you sound like a vapid mean girl. Not to mention we all know admission to a sorority doesn’t make you cool. Every campus has a few sororities filled with very undesirable girls that no one wants to party with. Sound familiar to you? Signed Sorority Rho Chi

My rising high school senior says most kids want balance—neither an Ivy like Columbia with constant protests nor an Alabama known for its sororities who live for TikTok dances and outfit showcases. Both extremes are annoying.