Deadly dog bites are on the rise in the last three years. Gee. Whatever could be the cause of this.
Did you read the article? It doesn't blame the dogs or any specific breed but, the fault is on the humans who don't know how to read dog's clues. So, thanks for making my point!
I did read the article. You might be in denial about what these bred for aggression and reactivity and tenacity blood thirsty dogs are capable of, but unfortunately thousands of dogs and cats and hundreds of people have lost their lives. That’s a fact.
Ahh the good old - and debunked - Animal Temperment Test.
XL Bullies are banned in England. People are seeing through the lies pit bull people tell. People are starting to notice that even sweet family pets just snap and ear some old person. They’ve noticed that “support” animals eat their owner when they’re having a seizure. Too many people have seen videos of attacking pit bulls being hit repeatedly, shot sometimes even, and still out for toddler blood. The jig is up.
You are moving the goal post. We aren't talking about XL bullies
Pit Bulls are banned in the UK along with a couple of other aggressive breeds. XL Pit Bulls are next on the list to be banned.
There are so many dog breeds to choose from. Why choose a pit? I want this breed to be eliminated. All current pits should be spayed or neutered and the breed should die out via attrition.
I would love to see this as well. I have started carrying a handgun as I have seen too many off-leash pits and reckless pit owners even in my UMC neighborhood’s dog park.
It’s unreasonable to ask the general public to be okay with the risk of death or severe damage just so some schmucks can be pit bull owners.
OAN I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with people that seek out these dogs as pets.
I think there is something fundamentally wrong with you that condemns five breeds of dog. I remember when other dogs were the "villians" and now it is pit bulls turn. I am more likely to be killed by a person while in school or movie theatre than a pit bull. Again humans kill more pit bulls and humans than pit bulls do. But, I suppose logic isn't your strong suit.
Can you say logic is not somebody strong suit and you're comparing humans with Pitbulls?Try a I question your logic skills
Your sentence doesn't make any sense. We are talking about our risks in life. Statistically, we are at greater risk from humans than pit bulls. Sorry you don't get it.
You are comparing apples and oranges The poster was talking about eliminating a breed due to its tendency to be more violent than other breeds. And in talking about eliminating the breed, another poster is not talking about killing all pitbull's, but neutering and spaying all pitbull and pitbull mixes so the breed could be eliminated by attrition. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. We don't need more unwanted puppies.
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And oh do pit bulls have unwanted puppies. So many puppies.
I’d also be comfortable with pit bulls that bite and maim being put down in addition to neuter and spaying; that’s not a rule anymore. Lots of these “oh he’s a sweet lump of a shelter dog, he’s a couch hippo!” have bite histories, sometimes complex bite histories. The world is not the chew toy of the blood sport dog and since these people insist on bringing their bred for blood sport dogs everywhere they go, we’re all at risk.
What are you smoking? Pit Bulls are the number 1 dogs that are put down. I believe it is about 1 million. You will never fully eliminate any pit because of the mixes. Even if they have 10 percent pit you people are so bloodthirsty that you will kill them too. Again, statistically speaking the chance of you being killed by a pit bull is very small. You cannot say the same thing for humans.
If all pits and pit mixes were spayed or neutered to be eliminated by attrition, there will be less Pitbulls to be put down. I think that is the best and most humane solution.
I agree with the spaying and neutering and as a responsible owner I have done so but, you never answered what % of pit would be "acceptable" to you. Since the macho guys who abuse animals also breed them I do not see your solution actually working.
How about any percentage over 25% and/or has that rictus grin mouth and the butt crack head.
Just fyi you are a terrible human. Imagine judging a dog with 25% pit and 75% Lab as a dog not worthy of living. But you are not the boss of anyone so we can ignore your wishes
Neutering isn't the same thing as deeming them not worthy of living
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What a bizarre overreaction.
If you had followed the thread the pp said that "they want to neuter and spay them out of existence" So, they want ZERO in the world. Not American pit bull terriers, not American Staffs, no mixes NONE. And you tell me I've overreacting!
Correct. And you are over reacting in my opinion. What is wrong with having no more pit bull and pitbull mixes within the next 20 years?
Because I and other people like them. You I could do without
Lol. There’s the pit bull owner charm.
I, too, would be fine with zero pit bulls. AKC recognizes about 200 dog breeds. If you can’t find one, maybe you’re just not a dog person.
I would be fine if you don't exist either but here we are. You don't have to like every dog but, they are dogs and many people love them. I found my dog so that makes me by definition a "dog person"
I honestly have to wonder if you’re anti pit bull and just doing an excellent parody of a pit owner, because as parody, this is absolutely choice.
?? Now I know you are high. I have a dog, which is a mix of a bunch of breeds including American pit bull terrier. I love him to bits and he is my dog. I chose him and I love him. I have friends who also have pit mixes and they love their dogs. Why would you assume I am anti-pit?? You do not have to love my dog or any pit but, you do not have the right to ban them out of existence. Or smear dogs just because you are anti-pit
See what I mean? You’re pitch perfect, by the way, as a pit bull owner totally lacking in self awareness and willing to sacrifice everyone else’s safety for your wants and whims. Like I applaud you, pp, as your parody of a pit bull owner is unparalleled. 👏🏻
Right back at ya. And where is this sacriface? My dog hasn't done anything! He is well trained unlike many doodles. So take your applause and shove it.
You’re this mad at people sharing mild opinions. No one is coming for your dog; at least not until it magggggically escapes and eats someone else’s dog, or worse, their child. We’re talking about 100% spay and neuter, instead of the 20% spay/neuter rate that pit bulls have currently. A slow attrition of dogs not fit for human company. Go get a Golden or something and experience real dog ownership.
So I'm "mad" but you are not? Again for those in the back. You do not have the right to tell me what dog I should get. Why don't you get a pit bull and experience real dog ownership? Anyone can train a golden!
NP. So, you're saying it takes special skill to train a Pit? Like there is something that makes them uniquely challenging that you have to conquer and train out? I thought that they were innately made to be nanny dogs that are good for most families and that's why they're handing them out for free to every ahole who shows up? Goldens are easy so anyone could train them, but pits are...??? What??
You're losing the narrative.
You are reading way into my comment. I just was getting a dig. I never said "all pit bulls" are good for ALL families. In fact, if you go to rescues they will tell you kids must be over 12 or must be only dog or no cats. This goes for ALL dogs! Just tired of you saying I wasn't a real dog owner because I don't own a golden! A dog that I have nothing against but, the fact is AKC has ruined it and most other purebred dogs. Also, you should judge the actions of the dog not the appearance. Not all pit bulls are bad and in fact many are very good dogs!
You’re talking with more than one person, btw.
And no, ”ALL dogs” do not need to be kept in child free, dog free, cat free homes. That’s something unique to this dumpster breed. No other dog habitually mauls other pets to death, no other dog chews through doors and drywall and destroys sofas, no other dog fatally mauls newborns for the crime of crying, no other dog attacks for men being present, wearing short sleeves, sneezing or walking. These are all literal excuses provided by pit bull owners for their crap dogs fatally attacking people.
All pit bulls, unique from decent dogs, have the temperament and physical ability to bite, maim and maul. Pediatricians, trauma doctors and trauma surgeons, plastic surgeons, they’re all very clear that these are not dogs suitable for human companionship. In many ways, we have bred the dog out of these dogs. They’re something else. No one’s judging these dogs by their admittedly awful appearance. We’re judging them by their actions and by their terrible owners, people who say things like “I wouldn’t miss you if you didn’t exist.” Like that.
I’m the poster from a few pages back who once prosecuted dangerous dog cases and got very well educated on the subject. I don’t like pit bulls and other bully breeds and I have little use for GSDs and Alsatians and Rottweilers and Dobermans as family pets, because most people are too stupid and lazy to train them properly and to recognize the signs when they are about to rip a kid’s face off.
What you are asserting is 100% not correct. Yes for a number of reasons pit bulls and other bully breeds are more dangerous than most dogs and statistics certainly bear that out.
ALL DOGS ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS!! No matter the size, the breed, the apparent temperament. They can ALL be dogs that should be a sole pet, or in families without children, or have a female owner but not a male owner - all the restrictions you listed.
The problem with ALL dogs is the human owners, period. Human owners/handlers are responsible for 100% of dog attacks, period.
So many humans proclaim themselves know it alls about dogs, but very few actually take the time to educate themselves about predictable canid behaviors and reliable ways to avoid unwanted behaviors and ‘attacks’ on other pets, children, elders and even the hand that feeds.
Pits and other bully breeds should be spayed and neutered to extinction because they no longer serve their original purpose and they are more dangerous as family pets than most breeds. But ALL DOGS ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS and so long as there are stupid/arrogant parents, grandparents, guardians, etc. there will be children who are killed and maimed by dogs, who then get killed themselves - and both are entirely innocent.
This is one of the most disingenuous posts I have read in a long time, and I can’t find any evidence that a chihuahua has ever killed a person, not even a baby.
Every dog can pose a threat, but for most of them it’s really more “in theory.” Pit bulls and pit bull mixes are the only dogs that routinely chew off arms, disembowel, gnaw off faces, go for the neck repeatedly and otherwise attack to kill. Sure, chihuahuas and other little dogs can be aggressive, but I’d be a thousand times happier to be “attacked” by a chihuahua than by a massive headed, wide jawed so they can grip you and shake you and keep breathing to do it dog bred to kill. My god.
You can't possibly be an attorney, if that is what you are implying by having "prosecuted". The link in no way says anything about chi's killing babies, or even number of bites. Only that little dogs as a whole are more behaviorally aggressive (and less house trained etc.) than big dogs, likely due to lazy training and expectations.
I think you meant to quote the pp just before me. I am not an attorney, nor do I claim to be one.
Yes you're right. There was a mess up in the response.
A pit bull attacked an 18 month old sitting in his stroller and ripped off his cheek. The mother was able to get the dog off the baby and a nurse bystander retrieved the cheek and put it on ice to be reattached. This happened yesterday in NJ.
The owners fought the judge's ruling to have the dog put down lol. idiots
Anonymous wrote:A pit bull attacked an 18 month old sitting in his stroller and ripped off his cheek. The mother was able to get the dog off the baby and a nurse bystander retrieved the cheek and put it on ice to be reattached. This happened yesterday in NJ.
The owners fought the judge's ruling to have the dog put down lol. idiots
Obviously the first comment is an apologist wondering if he died from an "underlying condition" and not the attack that put him in the hospital without a hand and with other serious injury.
Anonymous wrote:San Antonio: Escape artists got under the fence and a man lost his hand then died from a dog attack. Of course, take a look at the pics of the dogs.
Obviously the first comment is an apologist wondering if he died from an "underlying condition" and not the attack that put him in the hospital without a hand and with other serious injury.
When pit bull owners call their dogs “velvet hippos,” they’re telling the truth, if you know what hippos do. “According to Animal Care Services officer Merian Martinez, Striegl lost his left hand and sustained injuries on his right arm, chest, and stomach, where pieces of flesh were detached from his midsection.” And now the poor guy is dead. What a nightmare.
Anonymous wrote:No comments on the positive stories about two pit bull dogs
Typical of haters. Cant acknowledge any good.
There is no one (or very few) denying that there are good pits. The problem is that pits are known ticking time bombs. They will be nice and kind and fun...until their not. And although there are many breeds of dogs that can turn and bite, the problem with pits are when that happens with other dogs, someone gets an injury ranging from mild to severe. When the same happens with a pit, it ranges from severe injury to death. Pits are much stronger and much more deadly when something triggers them and when they attack. There is no minor injury when a pit goes berserk. Many more severe and fatal injuries from the same behavior in pits that would be minor in other dogs.
Pits really should not living in heavily populated areas. They can be fine in less populated and rural areas where the risk of an attack is lower and they are a danger to far fewer people. But the danger to the public from them in more heavily populated areas is not a good risk to take.
Anonymous wrote:No comments on the positive stories about two pit bull dogs
Typical of haters. Cant acknowledge any good.
There is no one (or very few) denying that there are good pits. The problem is that pits are known ticking time bombs. They will be nice and kind and fun...until their not. And although there are many breeds of dogs that can turn and bite, the problem with pits are when that happens with other dogs, someone gets an injury ranging from mild to severe. When the same happens with a pit, it ranges from severe injury to death. Pits are much stronger and much more deadly when something triggers them and when they attack. There is no minor injury when a pit goes berserk. Many more severe and fatal injuries from the same behavior in pits that would be minor in other dogs.
Pits really should not living in heavily populated areas. They can be fine in less populated and rural areas where the risk of an attack is lower and they are a danger to far fewer people. But the danger to the public from them in more heavily populated areas is not a good risk to take.
How can this blanket accusation possibly be true?
Is every single one of the millions of pit pulls in the US a ticking time bomb that will go off at any minute?
Lets say there are 10 million pit bulls in the US with an average life span of 10 years and then everyone of them is going to "explode" at least once at some point, there would be 100s of attacks a day....pit bull deaths would be the leading cause of death ahead of everything.
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