SAHDs are not lepers

[Anonymous]

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How are you being treated like a criminal? Because women here say they’d feel unsafe by an unidentified man standing back from the field taking telephoto shots of their kids at their soccer games?

How do you know what the man is shooting?

You haven’t explained how that makes you feel unsafe! You haven’t explained how you’d feel about a woman doing the same thing. You have also failed to equate photos to SA.

More giant leaps of conjecture and zero substance.

Because the OP said he was.

I would feel unsafe because sexual predators have been arrested taking long lens photos of children on school and other public grounds and I don’t want my child being photographed by a pedophile for their gratification.

Sexual predators taking photos of random kids is exceedingly rare. Far more rare than the frequency of women abusing children. Are you aware that most abuse happens at the hands of someone close to the family and not random strangers? You are not being rational.

I would like to see the statistics that say it is exceedingly rare for pedophiles to photograph children in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How are you being treated like a criminal? Because women here say they’d feel unsafe by an unidentified man standing back from the field taking telephoto shots of their kids at their soccer games?

How do you know what the man is shooting?

You haven’t explained how that makes you feel unsafe! You haven’t explained how you’d feel about a woman doing the same thing. You have also failed to equate photos to SA.

More giant leaps of conjecture and zero substance.

Because the OP said he was.

I would feel unsafe because sexual predators have been arrested taking long lens photos of children on school and other public grounds and I don’t want my child being photographed by a pedophile for their gratification.

Sexual predators taking photos of random kids is exceedingly rare. Far more rare than the frequency of women abusing children. Are you aware that most abuse happens at the hands of someone close to the family and not random strangers? You are not being rational.

I would like to see the statistics that say it is exceedingly rare for pedophiles to photograph children in public.

Well here ya go then. Shouldn’t you gather the facts before maligning innocent people?

“Over 90% of child victims know their offender, with almost half of the offenders being a family member. Of sexual assaults against people age 12 and over, approximately 80% of the victims know the offender.”
https://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/mobile/Education_MythsAndFacts.aspx

[Anonymous]

And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

[Anonymous]

I guess facts matter.

Also the police would tell the person who called taking photos in public is not illegal. When did the OP ever say the cops were called anyway.

You are also truly ignorant if you think all soccer games and swim meets take place at a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How are you being treated like a criminal? Because women here say they’d feel unsafe by an unidentified man standing back from the field taking telephoto shots of their kids at their soccer games?

How do you know what the man is shooting?

You haven’t explained how that makes you feel unsafe! You haven’t explained how you’d feel about a woman doing the same thing. You have also failed to equate photos to SA.

More giant leaps of conjecture and zero substance.

Because the OP said he was.

I would feel unsafe because sexual predators have been arrested taking long lens photos of children on school and other public grounds and I don’t want my child being photographed by a pedophile for their gratification.

And you have yet to explain how a photographer can take pictures of a team sport without taking pictures of other kids. Again doing so in Public is not against the law. This is not some random person taking pictures at a public park or swim meet or a soccer game.

You’re just a sexist admit it.

It is in fact some random person taking picture at a public park or swim meet. Because the opposing team has no idea who he is— therefor he is A Random Person taking photos at a swim meet or school.

If he cannot zoom in to only photograph his own child, he can decide that his photographs are less important than the people in his community feeling safe and rely on the team or school photographer. He can ask the coach to check with the opposing team before a match to ask if everyone is ok with him photographing. He is choosing to do none of those things and so yes, it is likely someone will call the police to check out the random man taking photos of children.

Please list all youth travel sports clubs that have team photographers. I’ll be waiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

Wait which is it? He’s a threat because nobody knows he’s a parent so he’s “creepy” or he’s a threat because they do know him? You are moving the goalposts all over the place in order to justify your hate of all men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess facts matter.

Also the police would tell the person who called taking photos in public is not illegal. When did the OP ever say the cops were called anyway.

You are also truly ignorant if you think all soccer games and swim meets take place at a school.

That was not my experience, but let’s assume you’re right.

If the police aren’t going to respond, then the person obviously isn’t being treated like a criminal. Where’s the problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

Wait which is it? He’s a threat because nobody knows he’s a parent so he’s “creepy” or he’s a threat because they do know him? You are moving the goalposts all over the place in order to justify your hate of all men.

Both. He’s a stranger to the other team, so he is perceived as creepy.

He is, per your statistics, a much larger threat to his child’s teammates.

There have been dozens of suggestions for how he can mitigate the perceptions of threats but since they aren’t “ignore your discomfort and your children’s safety” they’re not being taken.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

Your sample size is one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

Your sample size is one.

As are you. Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

Your sample size is one.

As are you. Thanks for proving my point.

Reading is fundamental. SAHD’s is plural. None of the (more than one) SAHD’s I know would be fine with a random man taking pictures of their children like this. Insofar as it’s gender based, the fathers of daughters would be even more upset. Even other SAHDs on this thread have said they wouldn’t be good with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

Wait which is it? He’s a threat because nobody knows he’s a parent so he’s “creepy” or he’s a threat because they do know him? You are moving the goalposts all over the place in order to justify your hate of all men.

The sexist man hater keeps talking in circles trying to equate taking photos in public equals sexual assault. She can do nothing to justify her ridiculous opinions so she tries another tack to try to explain her prejudice.

Team or school photographers who are men are okay and won’t have the police called on them.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

Your sample size is one.

As are you. Thanks for proving my point.

Reading is fundamental. SAHD’s is plural. None of the (more than one) SAHD’s I know would be fine with a random man taking pictures of their children like this. Insofar as it’s gender based, the fathers of daughters would be even more upset. Even other SAHDs on this thread have said they wouldn’t be good with it.

You’ve asked them all? Sure. Anyone who improperly uses an apostrophe clearly can’t be trusted to tell the truth of all the SAHDs she has asked this question and knows for a fact they would have an issue with a photographer at their kid’s soccer game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And per the OP, he falls right into your category of 90% of offenders since he knows his child’s teammates.

Show me where is says pedophiles don’t take picture in public, and if you’re about to say a team dad can’t ALSO be a sec offender please read your local papers and look at your local sex offender registry.

The thing I find most unlikely about this is that the SAHD’s I know would be the first people to object to someone photographing their kids like this.

I’m a SAHD, and I love some dad into photography takes photos of all the kids at the game and shares them to our private FB page. Once again your sexist premise is wrong!

Your sample size is one.

As are you. Thanks for proving my point.

Reading is fundamental. SAHD’s is plural. None of the (more than one) SAHD’s I know would be fine with a random man taking pictures of their children like this. Insofar as it’s gender based, the fathers of daughters would be even more upset. Even other SAHDs on this thread have said they wouldn’t be good with it.

You’ve asked them all? Sure. Anyone who improperly uses an apostrophe clearly can’t be trusted to tell the truth of all the SAHDs she has asked this question and knows for a fact they would have an issue with a photographer at their kid’s soccer game.

They’re friends, with whom we’ve discussed hard things like keeping our daughters safe from sexual violence and our sons safe from a culture that discourages them from reporting sexual violence so yes, I am comfortable saying a man hanging back from a game with a telephoto lens would disturb them.

Again, no one has issues with a team photographer and OP isn’t one so no need to conflate.