SAHDs are not lepers
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Anonymous
Because DCUM is characterized by OPs being expected to examine their own roles in their situation, something the OP— and his supporter— has categorically refused to do. If he is in pain and looking for solutions he was given many, which he rejected because they didn’t conform to the narrative that he is a victim. If OP wants to be told that he’s being unfairly treated by women and society there are large chunks of the internet devoted to that narrative. |
Anonymous
You’re part of the problem that was just described. Have some empathy. |
Anonymous
Because women have always been expected to have empathy for others while no one has empathy for us. |
Anonymous
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This thread is so full of what aboutism from the first reply on.
No one can imagine why a man would be complaining about parenting while male when all people can think of and reply what about me. Maybe when people don’t get up and move away while you would love adult conversations at the park. When women are not told they cannot photograph their own children at a swim meet. When women with a telephoto lens at a soccer game are not seen as suspect, maybe they can understand. Instead this post is full of what about creeps and SA and a variety of lies and statistics used to say “well what about…?” It is ridiculous. Frankly the OP didn’t claim victimhood, he just asked for people to not treat SAHDs as lepers. |
Anonymous
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I think if OP had come here and talked about the challenges of SAHD that include…not being able to take their potty-training toddlers to bathroom, not getting phone calls from school no matter how many times you’re listed as the primary POC, not being seen as competent by strangers, there would have been plenty of sympathy for him and recognition that there’s shared frustration (for every dad who doesn’t get called for a sick kid there’s a mom whose assistant is apologetically interrupting her meetings because the school is on the phone).
However in this case, the OP is talking specifically about an area where women are experiencing a fundamentally different challenge from him: women are not safe in public spaces in the United States. So his challenges are not being seen as significant because he doesn’t address the context which is creating his challenge. |
Anonymous
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Way to downplay his challenges. More whataboutism.
Women ARE in fact safe in this country. The percentages just bear that out. |
Anonymous
You get very triggered by crime statistics, but rainn says that one in every six women will be the victim of an attempted or completed rape attempt in her life. There are more than six women at the average soccer game so at least one of them is a rape survivor. You really expect a rape survivor to want to be approached by and make conversation with a man she doesn’t know? |
Anonymous
You still don’t get it. Logic will be lost on you. |
Anonymous
I think we will just need agree that where you stand on this question will determine how you feel about the OP. If you think women are safe here, then they are irrationally being mean to the OP. If you think women are not safe here, they are being rationally cautious and protective. How much women are supposed to value their safety vs. being welcoming to a man is not a decision anyone should try to make for them. |
Anonymous
Being a victim does not have any thing to do with telling a man and not a woman not to photograph his own child. Having 1 out of six being an alleged victim means five are not. He never said he was even approached just seen as suspect. Since more women are abusive to children than men are, I hope women are going to be seen as suspect at the park and men move away from them. |
Anonymous
1 in 3 women (according to the CDC) have experienced completed or attempted rape. 1 in 3 women in America have experienced sexual harassment. Over half of women have experienced sexual violence. 99% of the perpetrators are male. These are facts. That's safe to you? |
Anonymous
He said people move away when he sits near them. So he sits down and they move, which means he’s approaching them. It doesn’t matter that five in six (or two in three per other statistics quoted) aren’t victims if the one he approached was. Or her sister was, or her cousin, or someone else who has told her to be on her guard. Women are routinely victimized by deepfake photos and revenge pornography— can you see how a woman who has either had that experience or heard about it would not want a stranger photographing her children? Again, if you think women are perfectly safe in our society this will all seem irrational to you, but if your experience is that they are not, it will seem like common sense. |
Anonymous
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Victim victim victim. Waah victim. Go on living your life seeing not only the glass half empty but draining out. Never experienced a SA. Know no one who has.
I did get abused by a female babysitter not sexually. Sitting down on a bench is not APPROACHING a woman when that may be the only bench or table. You seem so focused on that yet you have no answer for his other two observations. I don’t see him claiming victimhood but one or two women who do. And whose statistics are you going to believe. You keep on keepin on with your own twisted narrative. My kid is home from school and I’m going to have dad take my kid to the park before it gets cold. |
Anonymous
Omfg. Let’s just end the thread. If OP is truly in this much denial of reality of male violence, there’s no point talking to him. |
Anonymous
Men are many times more likely to be victims of violence. Period. Using your logic the entire world should never approach one another in public because we’re all victims. |