Queen Elizabeth Funeral

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Anonymous wrote:Jill’s black bow on her head looks stupid.

I think it looks great! Showcases her great looks.

It was not really appropriate. It was supposed to be a head covering - either a hat or fascinator. Not a headband. (And I am a fan of Jill - but she was misguided here.)

One would assume first lady would have a stylist to help her for formal occasions.

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George and Princess Charlotte are so well behaved. They are living history, and their presence is important given their place in the line of succession.

I think I missed something: why did they walk a long way with the coffin and then put it in a hearse to drive it somewhere?

The new Princess of Wales should share her secret on how to have well-mannered children and it should be mandatory reading for all American parents!

Agree, the children were exemplary. Princess Charlotte even knew how to smooth her coat beneath her to sit on it without crushing it, as she took her seat in the car leaving the chapel. Many an adult does't know that.

Not to be contrarian though--OK, it's definitely contrarian--I wish they would retire the title Prince of Wales. It's rooted in centuries of subjugation of the Welsh. Titles based on actual landholdings (like Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Westminster) or on landless honors (like Earl of Wessex) are one thing, but Prince of Wales isn't that. Yes, we have relatives in Wales, and they find it an annoyed eye-roll at best, and truly offensive at worst.

That’s why William was stationed in Wales and lived there during military service. Hoping to get admiration from the Welsh.

On the other hand, Harry is living LA hoping to get admiration from Meghan's crowd.

Don’t think so … more like trying to make his wife happy and adjusting to life as a senior British royal would have been overwhelming for any foreign commoner … the royals Made a mistake in cutting them loose as they would have helped to bridge huge cultural gaps for younger British and commonwealth citizens …

They were upset by racist British press coverage. How was the royal family supposed to stop that? Meghan saw everything as spectacle and assumed they were "acting" for the public. She didn't realize all the protocol would translate to her private life as well. Diana said she felt she wasn't well prepared for life as a royal. I think it is ironic that Harry couldn't prepare Meghan either.

Um, the actual family had conversations about how dark Archie's skin was likely to be. Don't blame the press for that, darling.

We’ve only heard one side.

So...they are free to tell their "side" at any time. I would love to hear them defend that particular conversation.

They responded. In a formal statement. Basically saying it was all made up, or in more diplomatic terms “recollections vary.” That was the only response they are ever going to give.

I thought the services for the Queen today were wonderful.

I agree, loved the music.

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Anonymous wrote:When has anyone in the RF had a chance to eat or use the bathroom? It's one continuous ceremony after another especially for the children. no one has had a break since early this morning and it's 4pm.

They weren't with the coffin during the procession from Westminster to Windsor -- my guess is they were quickly whisked to somewhere to stop, eat, drink, use the bathroom, and have a few moments out of the cameras before they they rejoined the procession outside Windsor. And at least this service is much shorter and they largely just have to sit and watch.

They were all in cars from westminster to windsor. I was watching the kids. they were on the entire time. no break.

I think this is also part of the different parenting style in America. Children can handle an hour or two ceremony in Europe without a snack.

No need to tear down American children. My kids could also go an hour without snacks! Maybe you were speaking from experience? If so, don't generalize please.

+1. My children also do not snack constantly, and have taken part in somber services.

I'm pretty sure the remark was hyperbole--but indeed, many American children are fat and lazy and can't go anywhere without snacks.

Yes there are fat American children but, there are also fat British children and fat other nationalities as well.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/health/diet-and-exercise/overweight-children/latest

FFS, it was a hot take--why are you taking this so personally. Are your children fat? Do you take snacks everywhere? How is this even a thread?

PP, you are pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Jill’s black bow on her head looks stupid.

I think it looks great! Showcases her great looks.

It was not really appropriate. It was supposed to be a head covering - either a hat or fascinator. Not a headband. (And I am a fan of Jill - but she was misguided here.)

One would assume first lady would have a stylist to help her for formal occasions.

You would think. But if a stylist chose that headband, she should be fired.

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George and Princess Charlotte are so well behaved. They are living history, and their presence is important given their place in the line of succession.

I think I missed something: why did they walk a long way with the coffin and then put it in a hearse to drive it somewhere?

The new Princess of Wales should share her secret on how to have well-mannered children and it should be mandatory reading for all American parents!

Agree, the children were exemplary. Princess Charlotte even knew how to smooth her coat beneath her to sit on it without crushing it, as she took her seat in the car leaving the chapel. Many an adult does't know that.

Not to be contrarian though--OK, it's definitely contrarian--I wish they would retire the title Prince of Wales. It's rooted in centuries of subjugation of the Welsh. Titles based on actual landholdings (like Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Westminster) or on landless honors (like Earl of Wessex) are one thing, but Prince of Wales isn't that. Yes, we have relatives in Wales, and they find it an annoyed eye-roll at best, and truly offensive at worst.

That’s why William was stationed in Wales and lived there during military service. Hoping to get admiration from the Welsh.

On the other hand, Harry is living LA hoping to get admiration from Meghan's crowd.

Don’t think so … more like trying to make his wife happy and adjusting to life as a senior British royal would have been overwhelming for any foreign commoner … the royals Made a mistake in cutting them loose as they would have helped to bridge huge cultural gaps for younger British and commonwealth citizens …

They were upset by racist British press coverage. How was the royal family supposed to stop that? Meghan saw everything as spectacle and assumed they were "acting" for the public. She didn't realize all the protocol would translate to her private life as well. Diana said she felt she wasn't well prepared for life as a royal. I think it is ironic that Harry couldn't prepare Meghan either.

Um, the actual family had conversations about how dark Archie's skin was likely to be. Don't blame the press for that, darling.

Probably. But if Meghan was white with red hair, they could have said how white Archie's skin was likely to be. I see nothing wrong with either comparison. They need to stop being thin skinned (no pun).

I guess every family speculates about how a baby would look like.

Oh yes, it's definitely the same when discussing hair color or eye color in an all-white family, and discussing skin color in a family who doesn't have a single other family member of color, and also literally colonized other nations and literally stole their prized possessions.

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Anonymous wrote:Jill’s black bow on her head looks stupid.

One of the British reporters sniffed at her lack of a hat. And it’s time for the messy blonde hair to get a proper cut.

Her little girl bow looked ridiculous. I have no problem with her style in general, but this was an occasion to represent the US with dignity.

She lacks style and class.

Lacks style, yes. Lacks class? She's been a high school teacher and is currently a professor at community college and the First Lady. That's class.

One can be a Harvard professor and MENSA member but still not have a graceful style. Two have nothing to do with each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George and Princess Charlotte are so well behaved. They are living history, and their presence is important given their place in the line of succession.

I think I missed something: why did they walk a long way with the coffin and then put it in a hearse to drive it somewhere?

The new Princess of Wales should share her secret on how to have well-mannered children and it should be mandatory reading for all American parents!

Agree, the children were exemplary. Princess Charlotte even knew how to smooth her coat beneath her to sit on it without crushing it, as she took her seat in the car leaving the chapel. Many an adult does't know that.

Not to be contrarian though--OK, it's definitely contrarian--I wish they would retire the title Prince of Wales. It's rooted in centuries of subjugation of the Welsh. Titles based on actual landholdings (like Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Westminster) or on landless honors (like Earl of Wessex) are one thing, but Prince of Wales isn't that. Yes, we have relatives in Wales, and they find it an annoyed eye-roll at best, and truly offensive at worst.

That’s why William was stationed in Wales and lived there during military service. Hoping to get admiration from the Welsh.

On the other hand, Harry is living LA hoping to get admiration from Meghan's crowd.

Don’t think so … more like trying to make his wife happy and adjusting to life as a senior British royal would have been overwhelming for any foreign commoner … the royals Made a mistake in cutting them loose as they would have helped to bridge huge cultural gaps for younger British and commonwealth citizens …

They were upset by racist British press coverage. How was the royal family supposed to stop that? Meghan saw everything as spectacle and assumed they were "acting" for the public. She didn't realize all the protocol would translate to her private life as well. Diana said she felt she wasn't well prepared for life as a royal. I think it is ironic that Harry couldn't prepare Meghan either.

Um, the actual family had conversations about how dark Archie's skin was likely to be. Don't blame the press for that, darling.

Probably. But if Meghan was white with red hair, they could have said how white Archie's skin was likely to be. I see nothing wrong with either comparison. They need to stop being thin skinned (no pun).

I guess every family speculates about how a baby would look like.

Oh yes, it's definitely the same when discussing hair color or eye color in an all-white family, and discussing skin color in a family who doesn't have a single other family member of color, and also literally colonized other nations and literally stole their prized possessions.

You are right but I would rather correct them right there or hold my peace. Its family drama not talkshow fodder.

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George and Princess Charlotte are so well behaved. They are living history, and their presence is important given their place in the line of succession.

I think I missed something: why did they walk a long way with the coffin and then put it in a hearse to drive it somewhere?

The new Princess of Wales should share her secret on how to have well-mannered children and it should be mandatory reading for all American parents!

Agree, the children were exemplary. Princess Charlotte even knew how to smooth her coat beneath her to sit on it without crushing it, as she took her seat in the car leaving the chapel. Many an adult does't know that.

Not to be contrarian though--OK, it's definitely contrarian--I wish they would retire the title Prince of Wales. It's rooted in centuries of subjugation of the Welsh. Titles based on actual landholdings (like Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Westminster) or on landless honors (like Earl of Wessex) are one thing, but Prince of Wales isn't that. Yes, we have relatives in Wales, and they find it an annoyed eye-roll at best, and truly offensive at worst.

That’s why William was stationed in Wales and lived there during military service. Hoping to get admiration from the Welsh.

On the other hand, Harry is living LA hoping to get admiration from Meghan's crowd.

Don’t think so … more like trying to make his wife happy and adjusting to life as a senior British royal would have been overwhelming for any foreign commoner … the royals Made a mistake in cutting them loose as they would have helped to bridge huge cultural gaps for younger British and commonwealth citizens …

They were upset by racist British press coverage. How was the royal family supposed to stop that? Meghan saw everything as spectacle and assumed they were "acting" for the public. She didn't realize all the protocol would translate to her private life as well. Diana said she felt she wasn't well prepared for life as a royal. I think it is ironic that Harry couldn't prepare Meghan either.

Um, the actual family had conversations about how dark Archie's skin was likely to be. Don't blame the press for that, darling.

We’ve only heard one side.

So...they are free to tell their "side" at any time. I would love to hear them defend that particular conversation.

They responded. In a formal statement. Basically saying it was all made up, or in more diplomatic terms “recollections vary.” That was the only response they are ever going to give.

Yes, they prefer keeping their hands clean. They use “sources” to leak to the gutter press instead. Or they use someone like Jason Knauf.
Classy!

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Anonymous wrote:Charles looked like he had Camilla's lipstick on his lips the entire service.

He really did. I felt bad for him looking like that.

Does anyone really think Charles has any brains? He is stupid and even looks stupid. So be it.

Charles has brains enough to modernize the royal family. The Queen was the star of the show and, with her gone, things will change quickly. The people most affected will be Harry and Meghan because they had only the star power of the Queen. With that gone and a boring king in charge, Meghan and Harry have lost their only marketable skill.

What exactly do you believe will change quickly?

Different poster here. It will be significantly slimmed down in terms of Working Royals/those who represent the king. Slimmed down in terms of expenses. No automatic titles for children, no titles for non working Royals. More separation and formal rules between official duties and family. Children of the heir will be asked after college whether they want to joint the family business or make their own way in life (without titles and fanfare). There will be more involvement from celebrated Brits as representatives of the King in various charities. There will be changes to the rules around the line of succession, so that non working royals and those who don't reside in the UK are not eligible for succession.

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Seeing the corgis made me teary.

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Anonymous wrote:Prince George and Princess Charlotte are so well behaved. They are living history, and their presence is important given their place in the line of succession.

I think I missed something: why did they walk a long way with the coffin and then put it in a hearse to drive it somewhere?

The new Princess of Wales should share her secret on how to have well-mannered children and it should be mandatory reading for all American parents!

Agree, the children were exemplary. Princess Charlotte even knew how to smooth her coat beneath her to sit on it without crushing it, as she took her seat in the car leaving the chapel. Many an adult does't know that.

Not to be contrarian though--OK, it's definitely contrarian--I wish they would retire the title Prince of Wales. It's rooted in centuries of subjugation of the Welsh. Titles based on actual landholdings (like Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Westminster) or on landless honors (like Earl of Wessex) are one thing, but Prince of Wales isn't that. Yes, we have relatives in Wales, and they find it an annoyed eye-roll at best, and truly offensive at worst.

That’s why William was stationed in Wales and lived there during military service. Hoping to get admiration from the Welsh.

On the other hand, Harry is living LA hoping to get admiration from Meghan's crowd.

Don’t think so … more like trying to make his wife happy and adjusting to life as a senior British royal would have been overwhelming for any foreign commoner … the royals Made a mistake in cutting them loose as they would have helped to bridge huge cultural gaps for younger British and commonwealth citizens …

They were upset by racist British press coverage. How was the royal family supposed to stop that? Meghan saw everything as spectacle and assumed they were "acting" for the public. She didn't realize all the protocol would translate to her private life as well. Diana said she felt she wasn't well prepared for life as a royal. I think it is ironic that Harry couldn't prepare Meghan either.

Um, the actual family had conversations about how dark Archie's skin was likely to be. Don't blame the press for that, darling.

We’ve only heard one side.

So...they are free to tell their "side" at any time. I would love to hear them defend that particular conversation.

They responded. In a formal statement. Basically saying it was all made up, or in more diplomatic terms “recollections vary.” That was the only response they are ever going to give.

Yes, they prefer keeping their hands clean. They use “sources” to leak to the gutter press instead. Or they use someone like Jason Knauf.
Classy!

Slinging a vague, nameless accusation to Oprah is not classy.

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Honestly, though, they theatrically sank HRM down through the floor into the vault, but she'll be popping up topside again for the private entombment with close family only, later at 7:30 GMT.

I loved the bread and circuses moment, though, just as I did with Philip's.

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Anonymous wrote:Jill’s black bow on her head looks stupid.

I think it looks great! Showcases her great looks.

It was not really appropriate. It was supposed to be a head covering - either a hat or fascinator. Not a headband. (And I am a fan of Jill - but she was misguided here.)

One would assume first lady would have a stylist to help her for formal occasions.

You would think. But if a stylist chose that headband, she should be fired.

Probably her own decision. Biden calls her kiddo for a reason, she has a youthful personality. It was cute but just not the right choice for a formal funeral.

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They started using the military to pull the caisson during Queen Victoria's funeral when the horses started misbehaving.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing the corgis made me teary.

Yes, and her horse!