WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

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Anonymous wrote:And here’s one lawsuit:

FCPS’s school board met with their lawyers this afternoon too. What about APS? Guess is they’ll be moving together.

I'm assuming ACPS will join them. This just sucks, my kid does have a disability that masks are definitely not helping and actively hurting, but ACLU isn't interested in those kids I guess. Everything I've seen about the cases they are representing are for kids for whom it will literally never be safe to unmask, ongoing lung issues, significantly immunocompromised. So is that the end game?

I can only speak for myself, but as a parent of an under 5 with lung issues, I'm resigned to masks coming off once my under 5 has a COVID vaccine. I'll probably still be selective about indoor activities we participate in, but once everyone has the option to have a vaccine I think that would be a reasonable time to end mandates. Also, again just speaking for myself, I agree kids with disabilities that are hurt by masks shouldn't wear masks in school now. It is really sad that a robust exemption couldn't have been made. Robust in the sense that it wouldn't be exploited by selfish parents.

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Anonymous wrote:And here’s one lawsuit:

FCPS’s school board met with their lawyers this afternoon too. What about APS? Guess is they’ll be moving together.

I'm assuming ACPS will join them. This just sucks, my kid does have a disability that masks are definitely not helping and actively hurting, but ACLU isn't interested in those kids I guess. Everything I've seen about the cases they are representing are for kids for whom it will literally never be safe to unmask, ongoing lung issues, significantly immunocompromised. So is that the end game?

I wonder this too. I know a kid with a condition ACLU is yelling about. Despite the family’s warranted extreme caution he still got Covid (thankfully he was fine, because kids with his condition have entire protocols they use for every respiratory disease, plus yay vaccines!). Universal masking didn’t make him safer enough - but treatment and vaccines did.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad to see that at least some language has been added back in to allow the governor to reinstate mandates. Seems like even Youngkin knows there will be more waves and more death before COVID is done with us for good. But, it should be the local school boards making these decisions based on local conditions, not some Trump hack in Richmond who wants to score points with a COVID-brain addled base.

Remember this next time a republican claims it is the Dems who the party of big government and republicans are the party of local government.

This was an unusual situation because Dems got drunk on power and didn’t want to give up control once they had a taste. If you watched the discussions in the House and Senate, Dems looked like children who had their favorite stuffed animal snatched away. They were almost crying.

I wish someone could explain to me from a psychological POV exactly why people are losing their minds over this. I cannot believe it’s because they think masks actually “work,” or even if they did, why they think there is enough Covid around to actually worry about. It’s something much deeper that is driving people to near madness. I would love to understand better

Some people have their vaccine and don't care about kids under 5 with health conditions that put them at risk for COVID.

PP again. It’s way more than that. I have 2 unvaccinated kids under 5 and I don’t give it a second thought. Granted, they don’t have unusual health conditions but if they did, I would view it as my responsibility to protect them. Not everyone else.

Do you feel that way when your kids are coughing a lot and sneezing all over the place? When they have pink eye? When they've thrown up or had diarrhea in the past 24 hours? in those circumstances do you still take them to daycare or play dates or classes where they're sharing toys and germs with other kids? In those situations do you feel it it is all of the other parents' responsibilities to keep their own kids home if they want to keep them from getting your child's cold, stomach bug, or pick eye?

Not that I see the relevance of these questions but of course I do. If they are (really) sick, I keep them home because they don’t feel well. I do not keep them home for every little sniffle. What does that have to do with why people have gone insane to advocate for masking?

You keep them home because your kids aren't feeling well (so it is only about your kids) or you keep them home so they don't get other kids sick? If the later it is the same with masks. Taking measure to prevent spreading disease to other people.

I didn't mean every little sniffle. I should have said something like a yucky runny nose or something like that.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

+1. NoVA forced this.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad to see that at least some language has been added back in to allow the governor to reinstate mandates. Seems like even Youngkin knows there will be more waves and more death before COVID is done with us for good. But, it should be the local school boards making these decisions based on local conditions, not some Trump hack in Richmond who wants to score points with a COVID-brain addled base.

Remember this next time a republican claims it is the Dems who the party of big government and republicans are the party of local government.

This was an unusual situation because Dems got drunk on power and didn’t want to give up control once they had a taste. If you watched the discussions in the House and Senate, Dems looked like children who had their favorite stuffed animal snatched away. They were almost crying.

I wish someone could explain to me from a psychological POV exactly why people are losing their minds over this. I cannot believe it’s because they think masks actually “work,” or even if they did, why they think there is enough Covid around to actually worry about. It’s something much deeper that is driving people to near madness. I would love to understand better

Some people have their vaccine and don't care about kids under 5 with health conditions that put them at risk for COVID.

PP again. It’s way more than that. I have 2 unvaccinated kids under 5 and I don’t give it a second thought. Granted, they don’t have unusual health conditions but if they did, I would view it as my responsibility to protect them. Not everyone else.

Do you feel that way when your kids are coughing a lot and sneezing all over the place? When they have pink eye? When they've thrown up or had diarrhea in the past 24 hours? in those circumstances do you still take them to daycare or play dates or classes where they're sharing toys and germs with other kids? In those situations do you feel it it is all of the other parents' responsibilities to keep their own kids home if they want to keep them from getting your child's cold, stomach bug, or pick eye?

Not that I see the relevance of these questions but of course I do. If they are (really) sick, I keep them home because they don’t feel well. I do not keep them home for every little sniffle. What does that have to do with why people have gone insane to advocate for masking?

You keep them home because your kids aren't feeling well (so it is only about your kids) or you keep them home so they don't get other kids sick? If the later it is the same with masks. Taking measure to prevent spreading disease to other people.

I didn't mean every little sniffle. I should have said something like a yucky runny nose or something like that.

I keep them home primarily because they don’t feel well. Yes of course it’s about them; I’m their mother.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

+1. NoVA forced this.

Wearing masks right now in indoor settings like grocery stores is completely reasonable. It is ridiculous not to wear masks right now.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

+1. NoVA forced this.

+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

+1. NoVA forced this.

+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

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I saw the tweet from the Virginia ACLU a and I inferred form it that they would be suing in federal court that a federal law (the ADA) has been violated.

If they are successful in having the new law deemed in violation of the ADA would this have widespread implications outside of Virginia. Hence would other states that allow unmasked children at school also be in violation of the ADA?

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What are the health conditions that children under 5 have that put them at serious risk for Covid complications?

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

+1. NoVA forced this.

+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

x1000

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Anonymous wrote:I saw the tweet from the Virginia ACLU a and I inferred form it that they would be suing in federal court that a federal law (the ADA) has been violated.

If they are successful in having the new law deemed in violation of the ADA would this have widespread implications outside of Virginia. Hence would other states that allow unmasked children at school also be in violation of the ADA?

I guess anything can happen - but I don’t feel like the ACLU is going to win at a time when vaccines are widely available. I don’t think it’s reasonable to force a young kid who is vaccinated and has had covid to boot, to mask in school anymore, for example. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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THank you for standing up for the common citizens rather than the rich, Mayor Youngkind!

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Anonymous wrote:It's just Youngkin trying to grab credit for the pandemic ending. Makes me hate him even more.

The fact that Dem governors are also dropping mask mandates makes your assessment sound even more ridiculous than it did when he was elected based on making it a choice for parents.

Virginia did not do what those Democratic governors did. They ended statewide mandates but allowed local district to make their own rules. Virginia has banned local discretion making it like FL and TX.

I wonder if there is any difference between FL and Texas, versus NoVa ? NoVa will never end the restrictions without a requirement. I live in NoVA. 90+% are still wearing masks in grocery stores - it is ridiculous.

Why does it bother you that other people choose to wear masks in the grocery store?