WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Jan. 6 moment or something. How can the VA democrats not see that a mask mandate is a real impingement on liberty that should really only be used sparingly? Going on two years and with vaccines available for all school aged kids is not sparingly.

**If there is a preschool class in a public school - and the kids are too young to vaxxed - you can require masks in that classroom if you like. But I don't recommend it for development reasons, and I have more education experience that you probably do so you should probably listsen to me.

Mmmmpf. Well, I can practically guarantee that I have more education experience than you, and I think that the children and staff should still be masked ... Want to have a degree out? I'll tell you about my credentials and steps, and you can tell me yours. I bet I win.

I’ve been working in education since 1999 and I believe the WHO agrees with me, as well. And, you lose all credibility if you think kids in schools are wearing good masks correctly.

+1. My middle school age son at a well known DC MS talks about how all the boys congregate in the bathrooms do they can take off their masks.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Jan. 6 moment or something. How can the VA democrats not see that a mask mandate is a real impingement on liberty that should really only be used sparingly? Going on two years and with vaccines available for all school aged kids is not sparingly.

**If there is a preschool class in a public school - and the kids are too young to vaxxed - you can require masks in that classroom if you like. But I don't recommend it for development reasons, and I have more education experience that you probably do so you should probably listsen to me.

The preschool classes at our school have rest time. I assume they are already taking off their masks to nap (in addition to all the kids already eating lunch inside with no masks). The concern about the preschoolers is another pretext.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel like this is a Jan. 6 moment or something. How can the VA democrats not see that a mask mandate is a real impingement on liberty that should really only be used sparingly? Going on two years and with vaccines available for all school aged kids is not sparingly.

**If there is a preschool class in a public school - and the kids are too young to vaxxed - you can require masks in that classroom if you like. But I don't recommend it for development reasons, and I have more education experience that you probably do so you should probably listsen to me.

The preschool classes at our school have rest time. I assume they are already taking off their masks to nap (in addition to all the kids already eating lunch inside with no masks). The concern about the preschoolers is another pretext.

The preschool in our school does not have nap time and all kids eat outside.

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

One correction, they haven't been masking 7 hours a day for two+ years, because there wasn't school for 18 months...

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

One correction, they haven't been masking 7 hours a day for two+ years, because there wasn't school for 18 months...

And it was the biggest educational blunder of our lifetime.

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

Local Government power is highest where public safety is the issue. Moreover, there is no Commonwealth constitution prohibition on the Commonwealth’s power to institute a mask mandate. These are the reasons that the antimaskers’ civil liberties arguments are so frustrating. The Commonwealth clearly had power to require masks to protect the public during a global pandemic by requiring a mask and no governmental right were being impeded when it did so (or the school boards until the new law was passed).

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

Local Government power is highest where public safety is the issue. Moreover, there is no Commonwealth constitution prohibition on the Commonwealth’s power to institute a mask mandate. These are the reasons that the antimaskers’ civil liberties arguments are so frustrating. The Commonwealth clearly had power to require masks to protect the public during a global pandemic by requiring a mask and no governmental right were being impeded when it did so (or the school boards until the new law was passed).

I’m glad the new law took the power away from local control on the school mask issue. These local people cannot correctly do risk / benefit analysis. They put way too much weight on corona risk and discard consideration of other real risks.

These local people don’t understand that masks are restrictive of freedom and mandates should be sparingly used. At any rate - I think now is the time to end the mask mandate. Maybe I could have gotten behind it earlier but by now I am fully behind it.

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I’m glad the new law took the power away from local control on the school mask issue. These local people cannot correctly do risk / benefit analysis. They put way too much weight on corona risk and discard consideration of other real risks.

These local people don’t understand that masks are restrictive of freedom and mandates should be sparingly used. At any rate - I think now is the time to end the mask mandate. Maybe I could have gotten behind it earlier but by now I am fully behind it.

I will be pushing all of my mommy friends to opt their kids out of masking. Kids need to see faces.

We need to be following the science. Unfortunately, the CDC is following the political science of the teachers union, so we'll follow the WHO and European health agencies instead.

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+2. And at a cost of how many millions of $$$ to sue a democratically-elected governor, who’s measure follows countless out of state democrat leaders??

The NOVA counties should be ashamed of how poorly they treat our children (and how they waste our tax revenue).

I am completely supportive of the use of my taxes to sue Youngkin to protect our children from the selfish ignorant anti maskers on this thread.

The forced child maskers really can't give it up - it's purely about ego and anti-scientific, quasi-religious beliefs at this point. Right now, the so-called disability attorney (who is a closed schooler, which hurt SO MANY disabled kids, just as masks do) is on AEM pushing a hail mary lawsuit.

The same people pushing for this litigation (Smart Restart) are the same people who said:
(1) School was unsafe to reopen during throughout the 2020-2021 school year - they were repeatedly wrong
(2) School was unsafe to open fall 2021 with the Delta variant - they were wrong
(3) School would have to close down in January 2022 because of the Omicron varient - they were wrong
(4) A founder is saying on AEM (the one who said in an NBC interview she sent her son to school with a CO2 monitor) that things will never go back to normal and wearing masks will be a part of our lives forever
(5) On Smart Restart Twitter, that forced child mask wearing needs to happen every time there's a surge in cases for the rest of our lives (i.e., while COVID is still here)

These people have been so wrong. They want children to be forced to mask forever. Their credibility is utterly destroyed and they're a laughing stock of this community.

And if we can't unmask now, then when? We have vaccines for 5 and up. And a ton of people just got omicron so we have a really high level of immunity from vaccine and natural infection.

How about when the under 5 vaccine is available?

Why should people over 5 wait for that? I don't think it's necessary, especially given the low risk to kids under 5 of the virus.

Society should protect kids. Especially the kids under 5 at risk for covid complications. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child I don't know what to tell you.

Except that children under 5, by and large, are not at risk from covid AT ALL. They are far more at risk living in a world where they cannot see and appreciate other peoples' faces and interactions. If you don't see why you should help protect a young child from the abuse of constant masking, I don't know what to tell you.

You support protecting healthy kids, but not kids with health conditions. #compassion

I support them getting vaccinated and wearing a good mask themselves if they are risk.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-kids-face-masks/

There comes a time - when you can't force others to do things and you need to do what is in your power protect yourself. I think the time is now.

Why is that time now? As far as I can see people like you are just tired of masks, you've gotten your vaccine, and you don't care about the under 5s with health issues. How long did we all take precautions when you didn't have a vaccine available? A lot longer than you're being asked to hold on until the under 5s have a vaccine.

Two years was my limit - it turns out. I didn’t ask anyone to take precautions for me. That’s not what I am about - I am about personal choices to protect yourself and not mandates on others.

I don’t care about your anxiety and inability to assess risk on the under 5 population.

Its sad how many people I've know who have spouted the same personal freedom garbage, and then had life experiences which showed them they are not the island they thought they were. Tough stuff.

It is best to be self reliant and not be expecting anyone else to protect you from disease. That especially goes for immuno-compromised people. I would tell them don’t think these cloth masks are protecting you - even the cdc said they don’t.

If you're so self reliant I guess I don't understand how you are posting online from your log cabin in the middle of nowhere where you grow your own food and are 100% self sufficient, living off the grid, provide your own medical care, police, and fire department services, and rely on nobody whatsoever.

What you list there is a far cry from forcing children - many of whom are vaccinated AND have had covid and are at extremely low risk of complications from covid themselves - to wear a mask covering their nose and mouth for 7 hours a day - for going on two+ years. Taxes are the price I pay for civilization and not the same kind of imposition on others' civil liberties. But yes - the pandemic did certainly confirm that it's better not be reliant on the government to take care of you and to rely on them as little as possible - if at all possible.

Local Government power is highest where public safety is the issue. Moreover, there is no Commonwealth constitution prohibition on the Commonwealth’s power to institute a mask mandate. These are the reasons that the antimaskers’ civil liberties arguments are so frustrating. The Commonwealth clearly had power to require masks to protect the public during a global pandemic by requiring a mask and no governmental right were being impeded when it did so (or the school boards until the new law was passed).

I’m glad the new law took the power away from local control on the school mask issue. These local people cannot correctly do risk / benefit analysis. They put way too much weight on corona risk and discard consideration of other real risks.

These local people don’t understand that masks are restrictive of freedom and mandates should be sparingly used. At any rate - I think now is the time to end the mask mandate. Maybe I could have gotten behind it earlier but by now I am fully behind it.

No, the problem is that idiot antimaskers cannot assess the public risk which is why governments need to fight to maintain authority to impose mask mandates when necessary (even if right now, it does make sense to start reassessing whether mask mandates are needed). We cannot let these alleged”cilia liberation” arguments take away our government’s collective ability to protect us from pandemics going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:

I’m glad the new law took the power away from local control on the school mask issue. These local people cannot correctly do risk / benefit analysis. They put way too much weight on corona risk and discard consideration of other real risks.

These local people don’t understand that masks are restrictive of freedom and mandates should be sparingly used. At any rate - I think now is the time to end the mask mandate. Maybe I could have gotten behind it earlier but by now I am fully behind it.

No, the problem is that idiot antimaskers cannot assess the public risk which is why governments need to fight to maintain authority to impose mask mandates when necessary (even if right now, it does make sense to start reassessing whether mask mandates are needed). We cannot let these alleged”cilia liberation” arguments take away our government’s collective ability to protect us from pandemics going forward.

The state government still has this power. And we can assess risk and we're following the science - as shown in the RCTs, masks don't work. They don't.

I understand for you, they're a cloth of faith, a way to show your political ideology. And you're free to continue doing so and forcing your children to mask. But the mandates are done.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m glad the new law took the power away from local control on the school mask issue. These local people cannot correctly do risk / benefit analysis. They put way too much weight on corona risk and discard consideration of other real risks.

These local people don’t understand that masks are restrictive of freedom and mandates should be sparingly used. At any rate - I think now is the time to end the mask mandate. Maybe I could have gotten behind it earlier but by now I am fully behind it.

No, the problem is that idiot antimaskers cannot assess the public risk which is why governments need to fight to maintain authority to impose mask mandates when necessary (even if right now, it does make sense to start reassessing whether mask mandates are needed). We cannot let these alleged”cilia liberation” arguments take away our government’s collective ability to protect us from pandemics going forward.

The law still allows the governor to impose mask mandates if he also imposes a state of emergency.