SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think that the dating these characters do in their 50s is anywhere realistic?

I'm 49 and was in NYC yesterday and the city is teeming with attractive guys (30-55).
They're all with young or younger women. I'm thin, used to be quite pretty and look good for my age but I'm
basically invisible on the streets. I was wearing a super flattering sun dress and got compliments from a friend
and two random female strangers. But guys looking? Pretty much no.

It's striking when you get to a certain age---(right after 46+):
you become invisible (I know, I know we've talked about this a million times on DCUM).
But man, it's striking. I really wonder if any of the AJLT characters would get a chance (or a second look) from any of handsome men
they're dating in the show. I hope they would!!!! I'm just skeptical.

I mean, it's fiction, they can take some liberties.

I also wouldn't say that men are falling over them left and right. The only person with a truly active dating life is Seema, and even she has acknowledged that dating at their age is hard and that sometimes you have to be willing to put up with stuff (like a penis pump) if you want to have an active dating life. Charlotte isn't dating, Miranda's dating pool is a totally different situation, and Carrie has gone out with two guys so far, and one was a guy she was working with so it's not like he picked her up in a bar because of how hot she is.

I also think there is a class element here you can't ignore. Yes, dating in your 50s as a woman is going to be brutal in some ways. But there is a dating pool available to an independently wealthy woman in NYC (like super wealthy, not just well off -- Carrie and Seema are rich-rich) that is not available to your average 40-something or 50-something single woman or divorcee. There is an appeal to a woman who is closer in age to these men (will get their cultural references, won't make them feel old or out of touch, will be more likely to relate to them intellectually) but who isn't just trying to find a rich guy to marry and have kids with. It's not every guy, but those guys definitely exist. They do not want to date women in their late 20s and early 30s who are looking for husbands and fathers. Many of them already are fathers or are divorced, they may work a lot or enjoy traveling, they may simply have no interest in family life. Someone like Carrie or Seema, with an interesting job and plenty of their own money, would be more appealing. Add in that they are reasonably good looking for their age, and yes, I think it is reasonable that those women would be able to find attractive men to date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think that the dating these characters do in their 50s is anywhere realistic?

I'm 49 and was in NYC yesterday and the city is teeming with attractive guys (30-55).
They're all with young or younger women. I'm thin, used to be quite pretty and look good for my age but I'm
basically invisible on the streets. I was wearing a super flattering sun dress and got compliments from a friend
and two random female strangers. But guys looking? Pretty much no.

It's striking when you get to a certain age---(right after 46+):
you become invisible (I know, I know we've talked about this a million times on DCUM).
But man, it's striking. I really wonder if any of the AJLT characters would get a chance (or a second look) from any of handsome men
they're dating in the show. I hope they would!!!! I'm just skeptical.

hmm, IDK, I'm not in NYC but I am 47 and get compliments from random men all the time. As well as cat calls (yuck) and asked out. This is when I'm walking from my car to work so not like I'm showing a lot of skin. I would not consider myself "quite pretty" but I am in shape and maybe I look younger than I am? It's hard to judge.
I also have men of all ages chat me up at the gym, in stores, etc. And women I don't know come up and tell me their life stories, their problems etc (often in the bathroom). Must be the energy I'm putting out there. So.. who knows how men's minds work? But it also may be the vibe you give off that keeps them away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think that the dating these characters do in their 50s is anywhere realistic?

I'm 49 and was in NYC yesterday and the city is teeming with attractive guys (30-55).
They're all with young or younger women. I'm thin, used to be quite pretty and look good for my age but I'm
basically invisible on the streets. I was wearing a super flattering sun dress and got compliments from a friend
and two random female strangers. But guys looking? Pretty much no.

It's striking when you get to a certain age---(right after 46+):
you become invisible (I know, I know we've talked about this a million times on DCUM).
But man, it's striking. I really wonder if any of the AJLT characters would get a chance (or a second look) from any of handsome men
they're dating in the show. I hope they would!!!! I'm just skeptical.

Well, the original show wasn’t really realistic regarding their dating either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think that the dating these characters do in their 50s is anywhere realistic?

I'm 49 and was in NYC yesterday and the city is teeming with attractive guys (30-55).
They're all with young or younger women. I'm thin, used to be quite pretty and look good for my age but I'm
basically invisible on the streets. I was wearing a super flattering sun dress and got compliments from a friend
and two random female strangers. But guys looking? Pretty much no.

It's striking when you get to a certain age---(right after 46+):
you become invisible (I know, I know we've talked about this a million times on DCUM).
But man, it's striking. I really wonder if any of the AJLT characters would get a chance (or a second look) from any of handsome men
they're dating in the show. I hope they would!!!! I'm just skeptical.

It may not be you. I have noticed post-COVID that people in general make less eye contact with one another and they just kind of walk around like robots. Very weird.

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Aidan, c’mon, man. Well my sympathy is limited at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aidan, c’mon, man. Well my sympathy is limited at this point.

Fwiw I don’t think there’s any way the writers will repeat her being awful to him yet again. I think he dumps her this time, at last realizing the fit is just not there. But they end on good terms.

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Why does the wardrobe department hate Aiden?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the wardrobe department hate Aiden?

Yes! He looked like edward scissorhands in that cinched jacket.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Charlotte have a stroke or just too much plastic surgery? She seems to have developed a speech impediment.

Are you still on season 1? I was just watching this week's episode and thinking how she looks like she's toned it down, especially with her lips, and she looks more like her old self. I thought she look like a clown in Season 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the wardrobe department hate Aiden?

Yes! He looked like edward scissorhands in that cinched jacket.

The Nehru collar was also bad. He looked better inside the restaurant, though I think his hair looks a little desperate that long in back.

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Loved kitty litter box lady. Her apartment looked like the preacher’s apt in midnight cowboy, which was a hilarious touch. Good job ajlt set designers!

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Anonymous wrote:BYE BYE CHE

They clearly left it so Che can float on the margins of the friends group. Maybe just the occasional one-on-one scene with Carrie, like in this ep.

Yeah, I didn’t mind them in that scene for a change.

+1 It was the only scene with Che I didn't want to fast forward through.

I don’t know. It’s like if we white women need to have Che in the audience reaffirming our inner thoughts about life and moving on, rather than vice versa, then maybe making the cast more diverse isn’t that much of an improvement?

No, it's more like I like Che when they are being a good friend but not when they are being a selfish, immature significant other.

Do you remember when Carrie cheated on Aiden with Big and everyone pretty much hated her that season also? Similar situation, only viewers had years with Carrie to establish affection for her character before she pulled that BS. The show introduced Che and then immediately through them into a relationship with Miranda that was highly problematic from the start. Of course people hated Che.

I liked Che more this episode when she was facing up to hard things. I think she is good at that. But I don’t think she really needed Carrie to show her the way. She faced up to being trans on her own? I just — don’t get me wrong, as a white woman I found the episode enjoyable and I liked Che more. But I’m not fooling myself that someone like Che would need some white super rich privileged lady to teach her about how to handle hard things. Whoever wrote the scene where Che was sitting in Carrie’s audience NODDING HER HEAD along to Carrie’s book reading (where btw Carrie did not even take audience questions wut?) was writing pure white woman escapist fantasy imho and not real life but then again it’s Carrie Bradshaw so *shrug*

It's odd that you don't think a Latina woman could empathize with a white woman. It was a scene about two friends, connecting.

It was a little white savior-y though, no? Che could not get out of their funk -- even though up until that point they had been extremely good at not hiding from tough things in her life -- but thanks to listening to an inspirational chapter from Carrie's book, Che immediately snaps out of it and gets their life back together and takes action. Thank you, Carrie, for helping them out of their difficult spot without even really trying, that was magical of you.

Isn't it pretty to think so? I mean, I liked it! Part of me ate it up, but another part of me is mad at myself for it. I think I'm also a little offended that they did it in that "Carrie reads a book chapter which we perceive to be very meaningful and we just catch the last five sentences and look the whole audience is in tears and Che's life view is now changed" trope, Carrie just reads part of her book and it magically fixed Che! They didn't even have to have a conversation or anything, just Carrie's magical words did it alone.

Huh? Have you ever been in a funk? Could you be inspired by people not your race. You need to broaden your horizons.

Episode six presented the most likeable version of Che, which is sad since they were depressed.

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Is Lilly the new Che? Getting Charlotte to walk in the snow for condoms for her first time? The pot brownies? Glad Charlotte is going back to work because her kids really walk all over her

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does the wardrobe department hate Aiden?

Yes, that was awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aidan, c’mon, man. Well my sympathy is limited at this point.

Seriously. I never even liked the guy but at first I was psyched when I thought he was standing her up and then I loved when he was like “you’re still in that apartment?” and it all came rushing back - then FFS he goes for it anyway. Sigh.