New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

If ECNL is dilluted in NOVA with 3 teams, what does that make GA with 6?

It isn't diluted, it's stagnant, entirely different. People seem to believe the long con from youth coaches that talent is diluted because of all the clubs when in fact they don't want to admit their poor training. England has a population roughly 1/5th of the US, Netherlands have a population that is 5% of the US...etc...yet other countries produce far more skilled players in general. Without some kind of carrot for these clubs to lose or obtain they never will get any better. The current model of a lot of ECNL clubs is to recruit the better players from the other leagues. That isn't sustainable and we are seeing now the damage that it has caused.

Do clubs in Netherlands and England, not recruit players? They just have the same team that they pick when the kids are nine years old?

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

If ECNL is dilluted in NOVA with 3 teams, what does that make GA with 6?

It isn't diluted, it's stagnant, entirely different. People seem to believe the long con from youth coaches that talent is diluted because of all the clubs when in fact they don't want to admit their poor training. England has a population roughly 1/5th of the US, Netherlands have a population that is 5% of the US...etc...yet other countries produce far more skilled players in general. Without some kind of carrot for these clubs to lose or obtain they never will get any better. The current model of a lot of ECNL clubs is to recruit the better players from the other leagues. That isn't sustainable and we are seeing now the damage that it has caused.

Other countries doing more with less population has more to do with our broken pay to play model and the fact that the US is so much larger (the US is 75x larger in land mass than England but only 5x the population), so while we do have a larger population it's spread out more geographically. then factor in that US Soccer is a joke and families have to pay to develop a kid, soccer in the US becomes about not the best player but the best player that can afford travel and training.

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

They should do a VA Cup with all the new teams to kick-off the the year, winner gets a place in Champions League.

They should do that

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One more month of announcements. Still lots of teams to announce

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

If ECNL is dilluted in NOVA with 3 teams, what does that make GA with 6?

It isn't diluted, it's stagnant, entirely different. People seem to believe the long con from youth coaches that talent is diluted because of all the clubs when in fact they don't want to admit their poor training. England has a population roughly 1/5th of the US, Netherlands have a population that is 5% of the US...etc...yet other countries produce far more skilled players in general. Without some kind of carrot for these clubs to lose or obtain they never will get any better. The current model of a lot of ECNL clubs is to recruit the better players from the other leagues. That isn't sustainable and we are seeing now the damage that it has caused.

Other countries doing more with less population has more to do with our broken pay to play model and the fact that the US is so much larger (the US is 75x larger in land mass than England but only 5x the population), so while we do have a larger population it's spread out more geographically. then factor in that US Soccer is a joke and families have to pay to develop a kid, soccer in the US becomes about not the best player but the best player that can afford travel and training.

Its also the number of different sports opportunities here and where soccer/football ranks versus other countries. Yeah we have so much more population but all the best athletes arent playing soccer. There basketball, american football, baseball/softball, lacrosse, hockey in cold weather states.

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Sporting KC to GA

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GA dropping new adds today.

Sporting City (KC)
United PSX (Oregon)

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United PDX*

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Sporting Boys are MLS Next, what about United PDX?

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

If ECNL is dilluted in NOVA with 3 teams, what does that make GA with 6?

It isn't diluted, it's stagnant, entirely different. People seem to believe the long con from youth coaches that talent is diluted because of all the clubs when in fact they don't want to admit their poor training. England has a population roughly 1/5th of the US, Netherlands have a population that is 5% of the US...etc...yet other countries produce far more skilled players in general. Without some kind of carrot for these clubs to lose or obtain they never will get any better. The current model of a lot of ECNL clubs is to recruit the better players from the other leagues. That isn't sustainable and we are seeing now the damage that it has caused.

Other countries doing more with less population has more to do with our broken pay to play model and the fact that the US is so much larger (the US is 75x larger in land mass than England but only 5x the population), so while we do have a larger population it's spread out more geographically. then factor in that US Soccer is a joke and families have to pay to develop a kid, soccer in the US becomes about not the best player but the best player that can afford travel and training.

Its also the number of different sports opportunities here and where soccer/football ranks versus other countries. Yeah we have so much more population but all the best athletes arent playing soccer. There basketball, american football, baseball/softball, lacrosse, hockey in cold weather states.

Yes, all of that, but, a single US metro area has the population of the Netherlands/Denmark/Panama. Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Miami, NYC, LA, SF, Philly - all are as large as if not larger than countries producing teams better than ours. It's absurd that we (also India and China) cannot produce one team capable of winning a WC.

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Anonymous wrote:Sporting Boys are MLS Next, what about United PDX?

United PDX is ECNL B & G

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Anonymous wrote:Sporting Boys are MLS Next, what about United PDX?

ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:Sporting Boys are MLS Next, what about United PDX?

United PDX is ECNL B & G

They only have RL for the girls. And middling to low at that

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Anonymous wrote:Sporting Boys are MLS Next, what about United PDX?

United PDX is ECNL B & G

They only have RL for the girls. And middling to low at that

Didn’t the boys side just get promoted to the far west region ECNL?

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on ASA getting GA? Would like to know if we should stay or go somewhere else. Club is not being very responsive.

The most recent club communication (posted yesterday, 3/19) is that ASA expects to hear from the GA early this week. The committee has apparently voted on ASA's application, and the next step is the GA reaching out to ASA. I disagree that the club hasn't been very responsive. I think they're doing their best with what has been a surprisingly long process that they don't control.

Any update from ASA on whether they got in?

So despite ASA saying there is no intention to go GA/ MLS, this forum thinks they were lying and will go this direction? What does that say about the trust in ASA leadership.

This is regarding Alexandria Soccer Association, not Arlington!

Ah, got it. Yeah they will go GA since already either way MLS. Not newsworthy. Moving on

So yes they got it or they are getting it in the future?

Having MLSN does not guarantee GA. Prior info indicated they would know last week but it sounds like nothing was announced externally.

If you look at DMV, everyone who got MLS got GA. It is a revenue grab. No reason they wouldnt give you GA if you have MLS. They are following ECNL.

Way too many GA teams in the DMV already. Just diluting their own product down by adding more. Unless the strategy is "Hunger Games" style survival of the fittest and they let everyone have it and then see who cant compete and has to be relegated to Aspire.

Some would say dilute but looking at the local ECNL clubs the talent is already diluted. A couple of decent teams but the rest are "OK". ECNL needs to re-shuffle divisions to make talent more interesting.

If ECNL is dilluted in NOVA with 3 teams, what does that make GA with 6?

It isn't diluted, it's stagnant, entirely different. People seem to believe the long con from youth coaches that talent is diluted because of all the clubs when in fact they don't want to admit their poor training. England has a population roughly 1/5th of the US, Netherlands have a population that is 5% of the US...etc...yet other countries produce far more skilled players in general. Without some kind of carrot for these clubs to lose or obtain they never will get any better. The current model of a lot of ECNL clubs is to recruit the better players from the other leagues. That isn't sustainable and we are seeing now the damage that it has caused.

Other countries doing more with less population has more to do with our broken pay to play model and the fact that the US is so much larger (the US is 75x larger in land mass than England but only 5x the population), so while we do have a larger population it's spread out more geographically. then factor in that US Soccer is a joke and families have to pay to develop a kid, soccer in the US becomes about not the best player but the best player that can afford travel and training.

Its also the number of different sports opportunities here and where soccer/football ranks versus other countries. Yeah we have so much more population but all the best athletes arent playing soccer. There basketball, american football, baseball/softball, lacrosse, hockey in cold weather states.

Yes, all of that, but, a single US metro area has the population of the Netherlands/Denmark/Panama. Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Miami, NYC, LA, SF, Philly - all are as large as if not larger than countries producing teams better than ours. It's absurd that we (also India and China) cannot produce one team capable of winning a WC.

It's not the population of an area that matters. It's the population who actually *play soccer* in that area. Soccer is not a major sport in the US. It's the same reason why the US, given it's population, does not produce more champions in tennis, downhill skiing, rugby, etc. It's not a population problem it's a popularity problem.