New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


Just know this is a very common situation for a lot of "top" teams the rest of the season. Last few weeks have been brutal for team morale at my daughter's ECNL team not in the DMV.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


That is a wake up call to the VDA chasers. VDA does not develop. Fact. They will take your money, suck their young teams parents dry until U-15 then dump everyone ( most with physicality and no technical skills) and bring ready players from outside. How is this development???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.


Where are these cut players going?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.


Where are these cut players going?


How are they going to field a team for SC? Take some RL kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.


Where are these cut players going?


How are they going to field a team for SC? Take some RL kids?


if they get cut form the top league ECNL, the natural landing place is in the 2nd division RL or the third division GA
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For ECNL hats questioning whether GA is gaining ground on ECNL, look at the U15 USYNT numbers:

23 Girls Academy call-ups in 2025-26 — 33.8% of the U15 pool, up from 9.5% last year. That’s not a small bump… that’s a major jump.

14 players from 11 GA clubs earned spots. That kind of club diversity also says something important: talent identification in GA is broadening, not concentrated.

The gap between GA and ECNL is continuing to narrow and arguably shifting at younger age groups.


the quality gap is not narrowing. it is actually getting bigger in terms of quality. GA may be adding more teams, but they are terrible clubs.


Cope however you need to bro.
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At younger age groups the balance is shifting. There are GA teams that can beat ECNL teams any day of the week at younger age groups.


The question isn’t whether there are good teams in GA. No one denies there are 10-15 great clubs that made the jump, maybe more, 3 in the DMV. The question is depth. By the time you get to the mid table in the DMV, at least, the GA teams are comparable to RL teams. The balance might have “shifted” from 5% to 20% but it’s still an 80-20 split.


Here is a way to put it in perspective of how quickly the GA talent drops off even in the DMV. Carolina Core was in the Aspire league with the DMV teams. they won almost every age group and are being promoted to the GA league. Looked at there 2010 team as an example. They lost 4-0 to a GA team and 4-1 to an RL at Raleigh showcase; they lost 3-0 and 9-0 to GA teams at WAGS. They can't compete at the GA level and will be bottom of table, but GA is just as much a money grab and wants more mouths at the table. Don't care if they are watering down their already mediocre product.


This you?
ECNL G2010 Mid-Atlantic 2025-26
Charlotte vs Beach 6-1
Arlington vs NCFC 5-0
Richmond United vs Wilmington Hammerheads 10-1
VDA vs NC Courage 10-1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


That is a wake up call to the VDA chasers. VDA does not develop. Fact. They will take your money, suck their young teams parents dry until U-15 then dump everyone ( most with physicality and no technical skills) and bring ready players from outside. How is this development???
Arent a lot of the players coming from the 2011 team vs outside? Players do come from the outside, but a lot (majority) are repeats.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.


Where are these cut players going?
Some RL, some other GA teams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


That is a wake up call to the VDA chasers. VDA does not develop. Fact. They will take your money, suck their young teams parents dry until U-15 then dump everyone ( most with physicality and no technical skills) and bring ready players from outside. How is this development???
Arent a lot of the players coming from the 2011 team vs outside? Players do come from the outside, but a lot (majority) are repeats.


So are the "younger" 2012s at least going to the 2013s?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


That is a wake up call to the VDA chasers. VDA does not develop. Fact. They will take your money, suck their young teams parents dry until U-15 then dump everyone ( most with physicality and no technical skills) and bring ready players from outside. How is this development???
Arent a lot of the players coming from the 2011 team vs outside? Players do come from the outside, but a lot (majority) are repeats.


So are the "younger" 2012s at least going to the 2013s?
Very few kids are playing up next year. Just like every other year. I’m not as close to the 2012s but know the 2013s who could repeat repeated, so the same thing happened to the 2014s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.


Where are these cut players going?


How are they going to field a team for SC? Take some RL kids?


if they get cut form the top league ECNL, the natural landing place is in the 2nd division RL or the third division GA


This is why they should do tryouts in May.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


That is a wake up call to the VDA chasers. VDA does not develop. Fact. They will take your money, suck their young teams parents dry until U-15 then dump everyone ( most with physicality and no technical skills) and bring ready players from outside. How is this development???
Arent a lot of the players coming from the 2011 team vs outside? Players do come from the outside, but a lot (majority) are repeats.


So are the "younger" 2012s at least going to the 2013s?
Very few kids are playing up next year. Just like every other year. I’m not as close to the 2012s but know the 2013s who could repeat repeated, so the same thing happened to the 2014s.

My kids club isnt letting older BY trapped players play on younger teams this fall.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened to the VDA 2012 girls? From what I can gather, they have not won a league game this spring.


Team morale goes south quick when half the team is cut for the following year. This is the VDA way.


Two thirds were cut and one of those is out for the rest of the year. 4 kids are still playing that will stay with the team. I’m surprised they can still put 11 kids on the field every weekend.
It’s an unfortunate situation. A lot of this has to do with AS vs BP. There is definitely a toxic environment. A lot has to do with half the team getting replaced with kids who have been playing a year older and are stronger. The other half is AS and how he has done a poor job helping kids push through and stay together as a team. AS seems to be a real problem, so I am curious if he well respected internally or at risk for the following year? I am sure the parents who are moving on have voiced their concerns to ML and/ or BP. Given how much focus VSA and PWSI spend on pathway to VDA, it appears from outside in that there is a big hurdle with AS. Do you think AS has staying power?


AS vs BP? Do they argue a lot? Is it in front of the players?
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