Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

I will never look at Dog as any form of the word “Hero.” Because he was convicted of murdering another person, he definitely has a checkered past. (To put it mildly.) I doubt that he can do anything at this point to redeem himself. He likely is getting involved with the Laundrie case to be relevant. There had been some negativity discussed about how little time after his wife, Beth’s death that he was in another relationship. And which led to where he is today, a married man.
Sure, it is sad that he also lost a child but he really should not be getting accolades for all he is doing. It would have been better if he helped the FBI under the radar. The publicity he is receiving may affect the integrity of the search.

I read today that a man in S. Carolina claims he ran into Brian as late as this Saturday. He claims that Brian claimed he was trying to get to CA to see his girlfriend. He seemed disoriented and confused according to this witness. He stated that Brian was driving a light-colored truck and was sporting a black bandanna on his head.

Could this man, the witness be legit??
Or just a game hog??

[Anonymous]

*fame, NOT game

[Anonymous]

It's kind of shocking to me with the publicity this case has had, that Brian still hasn't been found. Is it that easy to stay under the radar with the whole country keeping an eye out for you? How is he pullig that off?

[Anonymous]

Really very few people are “on the look out” for him. Frankly I don’t get the fascination with this case. Another boyfriend kills girlfriend, tale as old as time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of shocking to me with the publicity this case has had, that Brian still hasn't been found. Is it that easy to stay under the radar with the whole country keeping an eye out for you? How is he pullig that off?

Because he is like the most generic looking white dude ever. And it's been long enough that people have forgotten about him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of shocking to me with the publicity this case has had, that Brian still hasn't been found. Is it that easy to stay under the radar with the whole country keeping an eye out for you? How is he pullig that off?

Because he is like the most generic looking white dude ever. And it's been long enough that people have forgotten about him.

+100

Also due to his male pattern baldness he doesn’t even look the correct age of any basic description of him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will never look at Dog as any form of the word “Hero.” Because he was convicted of murdering another person, he definitely has a checkered past. (To put it mildly.) I doubt that he can do anything at this point to redeem himself. He likely is getting involved with the Laundrie case to be relevant. There had been some negativity discussed about how little time after his wife, Beth’s death that he was in another relationship. And which led to where he is today, a married man.
Sure, it is sad that he also lost a child but he really should not be getting accolades for all he is doing. It would have been better if he helped the FBI under the radar. The publicity he is receiving may affect the integrity of the search.

I read today that a man in S. Carolina claims he ran into Brian as late as this Saturday. He claims that Brian claimed he was trying to get to CA to see his girlfriend. He seemed disoriented and confused according to this witness. He stated that Brian was driving a light-colored truck and was sporting a black bandanna on his head.

Could this man, the witness be legit??
Or just a game hog??

Have you seen a picture of Dog? He can't do anything under the radar.

[Anonymous]

I think a lot of people are secretly rooting for him, not be sure they like him but because they want to see a small fish escape all the big fish...

[Anonymous]

Brian Laundrie is so (in)famous now - that his name was even referenced last night of SNL.

Pete Davidson was dressed as Dog The Bounty Hunter & asked “Do you guys know where Brian Laundrie is?”

Also > on the Weekend Update segment, Gabby’s case was subliminally referenced that cases where the people involved are white get more media coverage vs. people of color.
Then a black woman was shown, who apparently was “missing” for ten years.
It was a funny skit, but it felt inappropriate to me.
It seemed to be parodying the Gabby Petito case…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sitting here, literally shaking my head.

I am amazed that responses on here are actually defending the police (from August 12th) on this thread.
It is so blatantly obvious to me that the situation in Utah was littered w/mistake after mistake.

Cops should have zeroed in on Brian a little more.
They should have seen right through his transparency but they could not.
Even a typical layman can see he is nervous (& thus hyper), overapologetic, while at the same time minimizing the situation while seeming so indifferent to Gabby’s apparent distress.

Gabby was bawling the entire time.
She kept blaming herself for everything + admitted that she was not taking any medication for her mental issues.

Yet Brian got a free night’s stay in a hotel while the most Gabby received from the cops was a list of places that she could….rather should go to get a four-dollar shower to “cool off, relax and decompress.”
Because that is what helped the officer’s own wife - it would help Gabby as well.
Ha!!
Unfortunately anxiety is a huge mental issue and it takes more than one relaxing shower to help it.

I agree that cops either should be required to get more training on how to best deal w/DV or the police department should hire people who have solid DV skills both through education as well as experience.
Hopefully Gabby’s death will shine a light on how incompetently the current protocols for DV are so screwed up!

+1 she showed them how he grabbed her face!! That level of violence is code red alarm. Grabbing face or neck is chapter one of this will spiral into tragedy.

Right, but she also admitted several times that she struck Brian first. Which was corroborated by Brian. The officer did her a solid by not arresting her on the spot, separating the two, and giving her control of the vehicle for the night and the ability to flee. Expecting a small town, under resourced police department to provide two transients with Cadillac level of service is, sadly, just not realistic. They did the best they could.

+1. I think people are overestimating what police are able to do under the law in this situation. They both identified her as the primary aggressor. The police actually had to do some working around the situation so they wouldn’t be required, by law, to arrest her. Of course, in this situation, we can look back and wish he was arrested but our laws (rightly) require more than the information both parties gave to arrest him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Telling someone to take a “relaxing” shower during an anxiety-induced situation is akin to telling a depressed person to sit outside in the sun while chewing on some vitamins.
It is like basically saying “C’mon…. Just SNAP out of it!”

So showering helps the officer’s wife.
That is good for her.
But for many people dealing with anxiety issues ~ they definitely need more than a body cleansing in order to “snap” out of it!

I'm not sure I agree with this. I work on a suicide hotline, and we often use taking a hot shower as a coping tool. It's more about staying safe for the moment, escalating an intense feeling than a long-term fix. I agree that DV experts or a social worker should be part of these kind of calls, but I don't think a hot shower was a bad suggestion. What do you have in mind? Xanax/a trip to the doctor or...?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sitting here, literally shaking my head.

I am amazed that responses on here are actually defending the police (from August 12th) on this thread.
It is so blatantly obvious to me that the situation in Utah was littered w/mistake after mistake.

Cops should have zeroed in on Brian a little more.
They should have seen right through his transparency but they could not.
Even a typical layman can see he is nervous (& thus hyper), overapologetic, while at the same time minimizing the situation while seeming so indifferent to Gabby’s apparent distress.

Gabby was bawling the entire time.
She kept blaming herself for everything + admitted that she was not taking any medication for her mental issues.

Yet Brian got a free night’s stay in a hotel while the most Gabby received from the cops was a list of places that she could….rather should go to get a four-dollar shower to “cool off, relax and decompress.”
Because that is what helped the officer’s own wife - it would help Gabby as well.
Ha!!
Unfortunately anxiety is a huge mental issue and it takes more than one relaxing shower to help it.

I agree that cops either should be required to get more training on how to best deal w/DV or the police department should hire people who have solid DV skills both through education as well as experience.
Hopefully Gabby’s death will shine a light on how incompetently the current protocols for DV are so screwed up!

+1 she showed them how he grabbed her face!! That level of violence is code red alarm. Grabbing face or neck is chapter one of this will spiral into tragedy.

Right, but she also admitted several times that she struck Brian first. Which was corroborated by Brian. The officer did her a solid by not arresting her on the spot, separating the two, and giving her control of the vehicle for the night and the ability to flee. Expecting a small town, under resourced police department to provide two transients with Cadillac level of service is, sadly, just not realistic. They did the best they could.

+1. I think people are overestimating what police are able to do under the law in this situation. They both identified her as the primary aggressor. The police actually had to do some working around the situation so they wouldn’t be required, by law, to arrest her. Of course, in this situation, we can look back and wish he was arrested but our laws (rightly) require more than the information both parties gave to arrest him.

To label the primary aggressor the person who appeared to have the least physical injuries on their person just seemed a bit misdirected to me. The police on the scene reiterated that it was Brian that had the marks - not Gabby should have not had as much impact on their decision whatsoever.

Sure, Brian had tangible physical injuries than Gabby did, but emotionally Gabby was the most broken. Abuse comes in different forms & they are not always so tangible.
I had heard an officer tell Brian (when Brian had joked about going to jail) that he “did nothing wrong.” Verbatim. This after knowing that at least ONE witness had reported actually seeing Brian strike Gabby earlier in the same day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Telling someone to take a “relaxing” shower during an anxiety-induced situation is akin to telling a depressed person to sit outside in the sun while chewing on some vitamins.
It is like basically saying “C’mon…. Just SNAP out of it!”

So showering helps the officer’s wife.
That is good for her.
But for many people dealing with anxiety issues ~ they definitely need more than a body cleansing in order to “snap” out of it!

I'm not sure I agree with this. I work on a suicide hotline, and we often use taking a hot shower as a coping tool. It's more about staying safe for the moment, escalating an intense feeling than a long-term fix. I agree that DV experts or a social worker should be part of these kind of calls, but I don't think a hot shower was a bad suggestion. What do you have in mind? Xanax/a trip to the doctor or...?

I cannot see your point here PP. The officer seen in the police cam footage suggesting that Gabby take a shower was a poor example of what to tell a distraught woman, out alone on a desert road.
In other situations, I can see how it might be looked at as a good, temporary solution since hot water has the ability to calm someone down mentally.
By the way, the officer had no business disclosing that his wife suffered from anxiety issues & was taking medication to control it.
If I were his wife - I would be so livid knowing my husband disclosed this private matter w/a complete stranger.

I think a young, beautiful girl 100% on her own going to take a shower in a public place could be dangerous because there could be some random sicko in the area who sees that she is traveling alone and potentially follow her.
The area is obviously dangerous as two women were shot in the area the next day for instance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sitting here, literally shaking my head.

I am amazed that responses on here are actually defending the police (from August 12th) on this thread.
It is so blatantly obvious to me that the situation in Utah was littered w/mistake after mistake.

Cops should have zeroed in on Brian a little more.
They should have seen right through his transparency but they could not.
Even a typical layman can see he is nervous (& thus hyper), overapologetic, while at the same time minimizing the situation while seeming so indifferent to Gabby’s apparent distress.

Gabby was bawling the entire time.
She kept blaming herself for everything + admitted that she was not taking any medication for her mental issues.

Yet Brian got a free night’s stay in a hotel while the most Gabby received from the cops was a list of places that she could….rather should go to get a four-dollar shower to “cool off, relax and decompress.”
Because that is what helped the officer’s own wife - it would help Gabby as well.
Ha!!
Unfortunately anxiety is a huge mental issue and it takes more than one relaxing shower to help it.

I agree that cops either should be required to get more training on how to best deal w/DV or the police department should hire people who have solid DV skills both through education as well as experience.
Hopefully Gabby’s death will shine a light on how incompetently the current protocols for DV are so screwed up!

+1 she showed them how he grabbed her face!! That level of violence is code red alarm. Grabbing face or neck is chapter one of this will spiral into tragedy.

Right, but she also admitted several times that she struck Brian first. Which was corroborated by Brian. The officer did her a solid by not arresting her on the spot, separating the two, and giving her control of the vehicle for the night and the ability to flee. Expecting a small town, under resourced police department to provide two transients with Cadillac level of service is, sadly, just not realistic. They did the best they could.

+1. I think people are overestimating what police are able to do under the law in this situation. They both identified her as the primary aggressor. The police actually had to do some working around the situation so they wouldn’t be required, by law, to arrest her. Of course, in this situation, we can look back and wish he was arrested but our laws (rightly) require more than the information both parties gave to arrest him.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this news article, a second bounty hunter is mentioned as searching for Laundrie.

I wonder what the average time is to find a fugitive? I’m surprised Laundrie has evaded capture this long and think he must have done some good planning or was lucky.

This article is mostly about a guy who said he saw BL but a second bounty hunter is mentioned in here, too.

With the sightings, I think people focus too much on the beard. I would focus on eye shape, because BL has unusually shaped eyes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hiker-claims-he-saw-brian-laundrie-near-appalachian-trail/ar-AAP600U

What is unusual about his eye shape? They look average to me.

The corners of his outer eyesockets go down at the sides. I’ve not seen many people with that shape before.

My whole family has eyes like this. When I lived in Europe many many years ago, I was told that I had Eastern European eyes. Makes sense, my family is from Slovakia.