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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am sitting here, literally shaking my head.

I am amazed that responses on here are actually defending the police (from August 12th) on this thread.
It is so blatantly obvious to me that the situation in Utah was littered w/mistake after mistake.

Cops should have zeroed in on Brian a little more.
They should have seen right through his transparency but they could not.
Even a typical layman can see he is nervous (& thus hyper), overapologetic, while at the same time minimizing the situation while seeming so indifferent to Gabby’s apparent distress.

Gabby was bawling the entire time.
She kept blaming herself for everything + admitted that she was not taking any medication for her mental issues.

Yet Brian got a free night’s stay in a hotel while the most Gabby received from the cops was a list of places that she could….rather should go to get a four-dollar shower to “cool off, relax and decompress.”
Because that is what helped the officer’s own wife - it would help Gabby as well.
Ha!!
Unfortunately anxiety is a huge mental issue and it takes more than one relaxing shower to help it.

I agree that cops either should be required to get more training on how to best deal w/DV or the police department should hire people who have solid DV skills both through education as well as experience.
Hopefully Gabby’s death will shine a light on how incompetently the current protocols for DV are so screwed up![/quote]

+1 she showed them how he grabbed her face!! That level of violence is code red alarm. Grabbing face or neck is chapter one of this will spiral into tragedy. [/quote]

Right, but she also admitted several times that she struck Brian first.  Which was corroborated by Brian.  The officer did her a solid by not arresting her on the spot, separating the two, and giving her control of the vehicle for the night and the ability to flee. Expecting a small town, under resourced police department to provide two transients with Cadillac level of service is, sadly, just not realistic.   They did the best they could.  [/quote]

+1. I think people are overestimating what police are able to do under the law in this situation. They both identified her as the primary aggressor. The police actually had to do some working around the situation so they wouldn’t be required, by law, to arrest her. Of course, in this situation, we can look back and wish he was arrested but our laws (rightly) require more than the information both parties gave to arrest him. [/quote]

To label the primary aggressor the person who appeared to have the least physical injuries on their person just seemed a bit misdirected to me. The police on the scene reiterated that it was Brian that had the marks - not Gabby should have not had as much impact on their decision whatsoever.

Sure, Brian had tangible physical injuries than Gabby did, but emotionally Gabby was the most broken. Abuse comes in different forms & they are not always so tangible.
I had heard an officer tell Brian (when Brian had joked about going to jail) that he “did nothing wrong.” Verbatim. This after knowing that at least ONE witness had reported actually seeing Brian strike Gabby earlier in the same day.

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