We are going to look like fools DL while the rest of the country opens up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly as predicted - schools that opened for F2F are already shutting down.

“It is proven children have no significant risk,” he said during a July 15 TV appearance. It’s a line that Trump has parroted but that hasn’t been borne out in districts where in-person learning has resumed: Schools in Georgia, North Carolina and Indiana have had to shut down shortly after starting the year because of positive cases"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/17/trump-scott-atlas-coronavirus-doctor-396741?fbclid=IwAR1L1_KrSCz6PI-_uagHunMrDCJd6nXl8O53eoEadN14PXL4ZnfGZ7_3rPA


Who looks foolish now?

Well they were always going to look foolish- out of control infection rates and lack of proper precautions. What could go wrong?!

But the disaster down south doesn’t necessarily mean F2F cannot happen safely- I’ll be curious to see how it goes in the northeastern states. And there are some districts down south that are learning and improving. My nephews district usually returns in early August but delayed a month to make sure they were ready. SIL said they already making Adjustments as they see how things are playing out elsewhere. Now they’re in state with overall high rates but their county and those around them are better. Maybe it won’t work, but i can understand why they want to try.

If they were to open schools here, it would play out the same as it has down south. Within a week or two it would be shutdown. Without major changes in how we test and trace it isn’t viable. This hasn’t happened in the US and we’re likely incapable of doing this as a society that is skeptical of science and embraces baseless conspiracies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly as predicted - schools that opened for F2F are already shutting down.

“It is proven children have no significant risk,” he said during a July 15 TV appearance. It’s a line that Trump has parroted but that hasn’t been borne out in districts where in-person learning has resumed: Schools in Georgia, North Carolina and Indiana have had to shut down shortly after starting the year because of positive cases"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/17/trump-scott-atlas-coronavirus-doctor-396741?fbclid=IwAR1L1_KrSCz6PI-_uagHunMrDCJd6nXl8O53eoEadN14PXL4ZnfGZ7_3rPA


Who looks foolish now?

Well they were always going to look foolish- out of control infection rates and lack of proper precautions. What could go wrong?!

But the disaster down south doesn’t necessarily mean F2F cannot happen safely- I’ll be curious to see how it goes in the northeastern states. And there are some districts down south that are learning and improving. My nephews district usually returns in early August but delayed a month to make sure they were ready. SIL said they already making Adjustments as they see how things are playing out elsewhere. Now they’re in state with overall high rates but their county and those around them are better. Maybe it won’t work, but i can understand why they want to try.

If they were to open schools here, it would play out the same as it has down south. Within a week or two it would be shutdown. Without major changes in how we test and trace it isn’t viable. This hasn’t happened in the US and we’re likely incapable of doing this as a society that is skeptical of science and embraces baseless conspiracies.

I think this was the most wrong post of the year. It turns out we actually looked smart for not reopening.

[Anonymous]

Will you feel better when more colleges go back and quickly close after the virus rapidly spreads like it did at UNC?

All it takes is one frat party or night at the bar for college students from across the country to get sick and then be forced to return to their home states...which will prompt new spikes.

There's no way public schools could avoid the spread. So we're doing DL. This is the new normal until we have a vaccine that can be administered on demand. Accept it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will you feel better when more colleges go back and quickly close after the virus rapidly spreads like it did at UNC?

All it takes is one frat party or night at the bar for college students from across the country to get sick and then be forced to return to their home states...which will prompt new spikes.

There's no way public schools could avoid the spread. So we're doing DL. This is the new normal until we have a vaccine that can be administered on demand. Accept it.

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Once again all of you fail at statistics. The news media focuses on the handful of schools and colleges that have closed. Never mind the vast majority are open and fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will you feel better when more colleges go back and quickly close after the virus rapidly spreads like it did at UNC?

All it takes is one frat party or night at the bar for college students from across the country to get sick and then be forced to return to their home states...which will prompt new spikes.

There's no way public schools could avoid the spread. So we're doing DL. This is the new normal until we have a vaccine that can be administered on demand. Accept it.

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Once again all of you fail at statistics. The news media focuses on the handful of schools and colleges that have closed. Never mind the vast majority are open and fine.

That comment isn't going to age well I'm afraid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will you feel better when more colleges go back and quickly close after the virus rapidly spreads like it did at UNC?

All it takes is one frat party or night at the bar for college students from across the country to get sick and then be forced to return to their home states...which will prompt new spikes.

There's no way public schools could avoid the spread. So we're doing DL. This is the new normal until we have a vaccine that can be administered on demand. Accept it.

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Once again all of you fail at statistics. The news media focuses on the handful of schools and colleges that have closed. Never mind the vast majority are open and fine.

It's only been about two weeks and we already have all of these. The majority of colleges are doing on-line only learning and you still have this many? And you think this is just a small statistical event that will go away? Sorry, but if you look at when this virus was introduced to new communities, it doesn't just taper off and go away without active changing behavior and active battling. I don't think the college kids who are attending large mass fraternity and sorority events or having off-campus parties really plan to change their behavior and actively battle the disease without an actual outbreak occurring. By the time an outbreak is discovered, it's already been days or weeks into the transmission pattern. This is just the tip of the iceberg and problem is that problems like this get worse, not better unless you start following health and safety guidelines, but it's very hard to get the kids to effectively follow the guidelines.

But okay, you keep fooling yourself into believing that things will get better.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/19/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

About a dozen colleges have reported cases on campus, with more than 100 students testing positive at University of Notre Dame, Iowa State University, UNC-Chapel Hill and the University of Kentucky.

Outbreaks have been traced to off-campus gatherings, sororities, fraternities and dorms, leaving schools to reassess how to proceed with the fall semester.

North Carolina State University, Oklahoma State University, Northeast Mississippi Community College, Western Kentucky University and East Carolina University have all reported significant numbers of cases as well.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/512824-school-reopenings-with-covid-19-offer-preview-of

Thousands of students and teachers across the country are quarantining just days into the new school year, highlighting the challenges of resuming in-person instruction during a pandemic.

While many schools aren’t scheduled to reopen until later this month or September, those that have are offering a preview of the chaos that awaits districts this fall, particularly in hot spots in the South and Midwest where the virus is spreading uncontrollably.

In Georgia’s Cherokee County School District, where students are not required to wear masks, nearly 2,200 students — mostly high schoolers — are quarantining after coming into contact with one of 116 students or 25 teachers and staff members with COVID-19. Another 53 teachers and staff members are also quarantining.


Those numbers are expected to increase with more test results. In the meantime, three of the district’s six high schools have moved classes online, at least until September.

Experts have warned for weeks that it will be extremely difficult to safely reopen schools in hot spots, but some districts are still charging ahead — some willingly, others after some prodding from state and national leaders.

The results, health officials say, are not surprising, though they are preventable.

“You go in, people get infected — boom, you close them down. So it’s better to ease in, perhaps with virtual, until you see what’s going on when you’re in a really hot zone,” Anthony Fauci said during a livestreamed event Tuesday, referring to schools that have already closed after reopening this year.

“When you're in a red zone … you really better think twice before you do that because what might happen, is what you've seen,” Fauci added.

Schools in states like Indiana, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Tennessee have shut down, at least temporarily, after finding COVID-19 in their hallways and classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Approximately 700K people have died of HIV.

There is no cure. No vaccine.

We did not shut the county down and rob children of their education when HIV was discovered.

But then, the folks who were infected with HIV at the start did not have any political power.

A sad commentary on this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Approximately 700K people have died of HIV.

There is no cure. No vaccine.

We did not shut the county down and rob children of their education when HIV was discovered.

But then, the folks who were infected with HIV at the start did not have any political power.

A sad commentary on this area.

False analogy. HIV is not transmitted by casual contact and breathing the same air. HIV is transmitted by the exchange of bodily fluids, which normally doesn't happen when children are in school.

Covid-19 is transmitted by two people indoors sharing the same space. Even with masks, there is a low chance of transmission. But when the infected person is in the same small contained space with others for extended periods of time, like say a period at middle or high school or an entire day like in elementary school, then they chance of infection goes up dramatically. Right now the highest transmission factor are those families who are having small family gatherings and not being careful about social distancing and masks and spending too long together in enclosed spaces. Additionally indoor extended events like church services, conventions, parties, etc have also been shown to have elevated transmission rates.

What's sad are the people who don't understand the science and then not only ignoring the recommendations by doctors and scientists, but arguing the science with a set of vague similarities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Approximately 700K people have died of HIV.

There is no cure. No vaccine.

We did not shut the county down and rob children of their education when HIV was discovered.

But then, the folks who were infected with HIV at the start did not have any political power.

A sad commentary on this area.

HIV did not spread through sharing air. In addition, people with HIV can be asymptomatic for years before they know they have it. So the public health measures of "stay at home" or "no large indoor gatherings" would not have any effect. Gathering in person isn't how HIV was spread.

"Everyone wear condoms when engaging in sex" WAS an effective measure and it WAS a message we saw. People resisted it, just as people resist wearing masks. But it was pretty much the only public health measure that reduced the spread of HIV, along with lots and lots of testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Approximately 700K people have died of HIV.

There is no cure. No vaccine.

We did not shut the county down and rob children of their education when HIV was discovered.

But then, the folks who were infected with HIV at the start did not have any political power.

A sad commentary on this area.

People who make comments like yours make me think you are a Russian troll, or fired by the Russians, to just stir up discussion forums with your poorly thought our arguments. You do have a good command of English for a Russian troll, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Approximately 700K people have died of HIV.

There is no cure. No vaccine.

We did not shut the county down and rob children of their education when HIV was discovered.

But then, the folks who were infected with HIV at the start did not have any political power.

A sad commentary on this area.

Over many, many years. There have been $177K deaths from Covid in 5 months.

[Anonymous]

And here is a study done in Boston that started testing more children including asymptomatic children. The conclusion is that its not that children are lower risk for catching Covid, children are less likely to be symptomatic. As such, they can be transmitters or silent spreaders of the disease. This puts the adults they are in contact with (school staff, parents, relatives) at higher risk once they start going to school because they are more likely to catch it and spread it.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-researchers-find-children-are-silent-spreaders-of-coronavirus/33657423

[Anonymous]

VA school shuts down because of COVID just after opening.
https://wjla.com/news/coronavirus/after-returning-to-classroom-va-school-district-reports-student-teacher-have-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR1QighmBKyx4qDHnAuCKYCmZ3UDHw1kdPlwZbMrrZexgT7XU3u5vCR8Mek

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VA school shuts down because of COVID just after opening.
https://wjla.com/news/coronavirus/after-returning-to-classroom-va-school-district-reports-student-teacher-have-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR1QighmBKyx4qDHnAuCKYCmZ3UDHw1kdPlwZbMrrZexgT7XU3u5vCR8Mek

Not a newsworthy article. A student and teacher tested positive first week. Neither contracted it at school.

It's going to happen. Have a plan. Quarantine. Continue with plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VA school shuts down because of COVID just after opening.
https://wjla.com/news/coronavirus/after-returning-to-classroom-va-school-district-reports-student-teacher-have-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR1QighmBKyx4qDHnAuCKYCmZ3UDHw1kdPlwZbMrrZexgT7XU3u5vCR8Mek

I can’t see where is says the school shut down.