Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

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Anonymous wrote:They're acting like teenagers. You're acting like crotchety jerks. It seems like you both deserve each other.

OK, so let's talk about specific examples. Which of these are just "acting like teenagers" so we should just ignore them, and which of these are actual misconduct where the police or the school should intervene?:

1. A kid drops a bunch of paper and litter on the sidewalk.
2. A kid intentionally tips over a trash can and leaves the trash on the sidewalk.
3. Two kids get into a fistfight on a city sidewalk.
4. Two kids beat up another kid outside the school.
5. A kid intentionally shoves an adult.
6. A kid walks into the middle of Wisconsin Avenue and intentionally blocks traffic.
7. A kid walks across Wisconsin Avenue and bangs on car hoods and windows.
8. A kid jumps up on the hood of a car on Wisconsin Avenue.
9. A kid shoplifts from a local store.
10. A kid grabs an adult pedestrian's iPhone out of her hand and runs away with it.
11. A kid spits in the face of an adult on the sidewalk.

Or let's leave Tenley Town and go to Friendship Heights and the Chipotle after school hours in the afternoon. It is full with teens having after school snacks with their friends. Yet the only teenagers behaving loudly and aggressively and disturbing everyone else are the black teenagers who frequent the place from St Johns. It is not about Wilson or St Johns, doesn't matter if it is private or public. These kids do this intentionally to upset the whiteness in that restaurant, and we all know it. They throw their garbage all over the floor and leave the tables for the restaurant employees to clean, not something you see the other teenage patrons doing. No, this not typical teenage behavior, not typical at all if the parents bother to teach their children how to be respectful and civilized.

If you know these teens are from St Johns then call St Johns and complain. Catholic schools are actually pretty concnered when the kids act like assholes outside of the school becuase its bad for the reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

They don't object to students, they object to AA students who they assume are from other parts of the city and don't belong in their neighborhood school.

Always keeping it classy NW DC

They object to the obnoxious thuggish behavior of a few students who are bad enough to make the Tenleytown area downright unpleasant on some days when school gets out.

I like how they would RUIN the life of a child by expelling them from the best high school DC has to offer to send them to a vastly inferior high school because their shopping experience at Tenley is "downright unpleasant".

How do you live with yourself?

Wilson is the best high school DC has to offer? I don't care what the IB school is (could be Eastern, btw, which isn't that bad), OOB is a privilege, not a right. If they don't want to RUIN their lives, they need to not ruin other people's mornings and afternoons.

I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

I think you are unfair when you accuse people to complain to be just racist. With kids at Murch and a job downtown I commuted through Tenley until last year, I was there mostly around 9 am and 5pm so not when the school lets out , but I saw plenty of kids coming from activities and sports at Wilson and never witnessed any bad behavior and was never bothered by anybody. however, some posters describe very specific behaviors that are bad (throwing rocks at cars on Wisconsin and shoveling adults, this is not normal teenage behavior unless you come from a bad place) and you seem to be assuming that they are lying. this has nothing to do with being racist, the behavior is bad and kids who do this kind of stuff should be punished. the thing is there are almost 2000 kids at Wilson and you just need 5 % of them who do not behave well and we have a problem. last year there were a few worrisome episodes (a kid brought a loaded gun to school, and if I remember he was even planning to frame another kid), some kids apparently (or allegedly) commuting to Wilson punched at guy at Gallery Place and then fled on the train. there is obviously some confusion when a school that big lets kids out (and nearby Deal has also 1300 students, so the area can only be crowded when all kids are out) and some noise and crowding is to be expected, even if annoying. but other behaviors (rock throwing, shoving people, running down escalators with the risk of pushing down old ladies, spitting on people, crossing Wisconsin in a dangerous manner in traffic with the risk to cause an accident and so on) are bad and should be stopped and censored, if they take place (I have never witnessed myself). its annoying to hear from some posters that this is normal, we are pearl clutchers, we should move and so on. this is not normal and should not be accepted.

This seems balanced and compelling.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

AMEN. The most entitled bunch of crotchety jerks I've come across.

+1 million.

And they are the people who "pay the taxes and obey the laws." They don't want not-infrequent mayhem in their community caused by a relatively small but mendacious group of Wilson students. Why should it be so difficult to address this problem?

+ a million or two.

Let the mayhem-lovers live with the mayhem-doers.

Wilson (like most DCPS high schools) is a neighborhood school. If someone prefers to behave according to the rules of some parallel universe, why should they get privileged access to said (or any) neighborhood school.

They're acting like teenagers. You're acting like crotchety jerks. It seems like you both deserve each other.

Oh and using $6 words like "mendacious" doesn't distract from your uninformed, racist arguments.

Since when is behavior like jumping on cars, shoving pedestrians, shoplifting, spitting, and hurling obscene (and sometimes racial) invective at passerby just "acting like teenagers"? Perhaps in some urban dystopia, but should that really be the low bar for Tenleytown?

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

It's not teenagers acting like teens. It's a relatively small number of highly disruptive youth acting thuggish.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

It's not teenagers acting like teens. It's a relatively small number of highly disruptive youth acting thuggish.

+1.

Perhaps previous PP is a bit confused? Acting thuggish is not a race, my friend.

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I was in Tenley town yesterday and it was a quiet and peaceful oasis.
No kidding. There were only a few kids milling around outside Panera.
Otherwise the strip was practically deserted. Either the chaos only lasts 30 min or so or Wilson HS
has cracked down. After this thread along with the Cleveland Park list serve comments, I got off the
Metro at Tenleytown pretty apprehensive. Barely a high schooler or middle schooler in sight.
Where did they all go?

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I forgot to add to my previous post that I got off the Tenleytown metro at 4 pm.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

Well said and agreed - the folks in this thread (though I suspect it is one person) who keep insisting it is not about race then make a bunch of insinuations that suggest it is about nothing but race as if going after OOB kids isn't code for AA kids.

How many of the folks who keep making that point are aware that the group MPD suspects of dealing Heroin in the neighborhood for the last 5 years (and allegedly at a bunch of other mostly affluent local high schools) is a group of white kids from AU Park who ride around the neighborhood on skateboards?

This is a silly thread at this point - I walk through TT twice a day taking my kids to Janney at the same time all the Wilson kids are all out and about and very rarely see the behavior that so many others seem to see (or more likely imagine) every day. We even go into Chic-fil-a for an occassional after school treat of a lemonade or ice cream and I've never had any issues with the Wilson kids who crowd the restaurant at the same time we are there.

I even remember the person who made the rock throwing allegation last spring because I was in TT that day on the exact corner at the exact time this supposed long duration incident happened and saw no such thing.

As a parent with young kids I'm far far more concerned about all of the aggressive driving I see every day from MD commuters and was almost hit the other day crossing the exit from the CVS parking lot by an obnoxious woman from MD in a white SUV with an NPS sticker on the back who was on her phone (with kids in the back!) and who didn't want to yield to us and accelerated to beat us to the driveway even though we were half way across.

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BTW, mendacious means "lying." People have complained about a lot of alleged student misbehavior here, but nobody said anything about lying. I don't object to $6 words -- unless the person uttering them doesn't know what they mean.

Are you the same poster who thinks Hillary is concealing her Parkinson's diagnosis?

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

AMEN. The most entitled bunch of crotchety jerks I've come across.

+1 million.

And they are the people who "pay the taxes and obey the laws." They don't want not-infrequent mayhem in their community caused by a relatively small but mendacious group of Wilson students. Why should it be so difficult to address this problem?

+ a million or two.

Let the mayhem-lovers live with the mayhem-doers.

Wilson (like most DCPS high schools) is a neighborhood school. If someone prefers to behave according to the rules of some parallel universe, why should they get privileged access to said (or any) neighborhood school.

They're acting like teenagers. You're acting like crotchety jerks. It seems like you both deserve each other.

Oh and using $6 words like "mendacious" doesn't distract from your uninformed, racist arguments.

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On other threads I'd call remarks like this the work of a troll, but on this thread, it just appears to be someone baring their soul. Yuck.

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Anonymous wrote:They're acting like teenagers. You're acting like crotchety jerks. It seems like you both deserve each other.

OK, so let's talk about specific examples. Which of these are just "acting like teenagers" so we should just ignore them, and which of these are actual misconduct where the police or the school should intervene?:

1. A kid drops a bunch of paper and litter on the sidewalk.
2. A kid intentionally tips over a trash can and leaves the trash on the sidewalk.
3. Two kids get into a fistfight on a city sidewalk.
4. Two kids beat up another kid outside the school.
5. A kid intentionally shoves an adult.
6. A kid walks into the middle of Wisconsin Avenue and intentionally blocks traffic.
7. A kid walks across Wisconsin Avenue and bangs on car hoods and windows.
8. A kid jumps up on the hood of a car on Wisconsin Avenue.
9. A kid shoplifts from a local store.
10. A kid grabs an adult pedestrian's iPhone out of her hand and runs away with it.
11. A kid spits in the face of an adult on the sidewalk.

Or let's leave Tenley Town and go to Friendship Heights and the Chipotle after school hours in the afternoon. It is full with teens having after school snacks with their friends. Yet the only teenagers behaving loudly and aggressively and disturbing everyone else are the black teenagers who frequent the place from St Johns. It is not about Wilson or St Johns, doesn't matter if it is private or public. These kids do this intentionally to upset the whiteness in that restaurant, and we all know it. They throw their garbage all over the floor and leave the tables for the restaurant employees to clean, not something you see the other teenage patrons doing. No, this not typical teenage behavior, not typical at all if the parents bother to teach their children how to be respectful and civilized.

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Wait, there are kids dealing heroin in the neighborhood??

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

Well said and agreed - the folks in this thread (though I suspect it is one person) who keep insisting it is not about race then make a bunch of insinuations that suggest it is about nothing but race as if going after OOB kids isn't code for AA kids.

How many of the folks who keep making that point are aware that the group MPD suspects of dealing Heroin in the neighborhood for the last 5 years (and allegedly at a bunch of other mostly affluent local high schools) is a group of white kids from AU Park who ride around the neighborhood on skateboards?

This is a silly thread at this point - I walk through TT twice a day taking my kids to Janney at the same time all the Wilson kids are all out and about and very rarely see the behavior that so many others seem to see (or more likely imagine) every day. We even go into Chic-fil-a for an occassional after school treat of a lemonade or ice cream and I've never had any issues with the Wilson kids who crowd the restaurant at the same time we are there.

I even remember the person who made the rock throwing allegation last spring because I was in TT that day on the exact corner at the exact time this supposed long duration incident happened and saw no such thing.

As a parent with young kids I'm far far more concerned about all of the aggressive driving I see every day from MD commuters and was almost hit the other day crossing the exit from the CVS parking lot by an obnoxious woman from MD in a white SUV with an NPS sticker on the back who was on her phone (with kids in the back!) and who didn't want to yield to us and accelerated to beat us to the driveway even though we were half way across.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that I would be at the metro station all the time since 2015. I do not know what these posters are talking about. Sure there are a bunch of teens, some of them shoving each other, some of them swearing, and some of them were buying food from the nearby stores. This is not a situation that was dangerous or menacing at all. I don't know how these NW DC posters know that they're OOB (I suspect they assume black=OOB), but there is no "dangerous" situation. I think the real issue is that these NW DC types (not all people from NWDC, just the racist PPs here), feel like they paid a lot of money to live in a white part of town and they would love to ensure no blacks "ruin their mornings and afternoons".

- former white NWDC resident

No one's talking about race except for people, like you, who are offering knee-jerk defense to all wrongdoing, and accusing anyone who opposes the wrongdoing of being racist.

If it's a lily-white kid from a million-dollar home who's throwing rocks and getting into fights on the sidewalk, he ought to be disciplined. If the kid is Latino, he ought to be disciplined. If he's black, he ought to be disciplined. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, no matter the skin color of the wrongdoer.

You make it harder to address real issues of racism when you falsely paint anyone who disagrees with you as racist. So stop it.

Well said. We need to stop throwing "racism" around so casually, it devalues the meaning of the word. These kids know right from wrong, they simply choose wrong.

I'll stop calling you racist if you explain to me how you know that these kids are out of bounds.

I can't speak for the other people calling you racist.

I noticed all the white people who claim that race is "not a part of this" skirted this question. Because it is clear that race is CLEARLY playing a role. But you can keep acting like you're "concerned" when we know the real issue. You're disgusting.

I addressed it directly. I don't know or care whether they're in bounds or not. I don't care what their race is.

Now you answer my questions: Why are you so focused on their race? Why do you excuse the bad behavior?

I'm not excusing their bad behavior- I just think you're exaggerating. You may now be saying you don't care if they're OOB or not (because someone called you out) but earlier nearly every post suggested returning them to their inbounds. Because of course only "good kids" live inbounds. You want to eat your hate chicken and Panera in peace- I get that. But you chose to live in a neighborhood with a high school- a desirable school to many. The positive is that your home values are high because of the good school, but you don't want the downside which is teenagers acting like teenagers. I've been there and not seen anything like you're describing. You're a racist- own it!

Well said and agreed - the folks in this thread (though I suspect it is one person) who keep insisting it is not about race then make a bunch of insinuations that suggest it is about nothing but race as if going after OOB kids isn't code for AA kids.

How many of the folks who keep making that point are aware that the group MPD suspects of dealing Heroin in the neighborhood for the last 5 years (and allegedly at a bunch of other mostly affluent local high schools) is a group of white kids from AU Park who ride around the neighborhood on skateboards?

This is a silly thread at this point - I walk through TT twice a day taking my kids to Janney at the same time all the Wilson kids are all out and about and very rarely see the behavior that so many others seem to see (or more likely imagine) every day. We even go into Chic-fil-a for an occassional after school treat of a lemonade or ice cream and I've never had any issues with the Wilson kids who crowd the restaurant at the same time we are there.

I even remember the person who made the rock throwing allegation last spring because I was in TT that day on the exact corner at the exact time this supposed long duration incident happened and saw no such thing.

As a parent with young kids I'm far far more concerned about all of the aggressive driving I see every day from MD commuters and was almost hit the other day crossing the exit from the CVS parking lot by an obnoxious woman from MD in a white SUV with an NPS sticker on the back who was on her phone (with kids in the back!) and who didn't want to yield to us and accelerated to beat us to the driveway even though we were half way across.

It happened. It was three children. One was carrying a long poster. They also stood in the middle of the street blocking traffic and calling out to confused and faltering drivers, "what are you going to do? Knock me over? Yeah, I thought so!"..I cant remember what time it was now, but do know that with after school classes different streams of children release at different times. Spring seems particularly congested as the weather gets nice. If it is quieter these days, awesome.thats a good thing but doesn't prove an point you're trying to make. Nor does claiming you didn't see rock throwing so it couldn't have happened. How absurd. I haven't posted here in weeks but find your efforts to conflate everyone's witnesings and responses sort of irresponsible.