Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:... Glad I live in Ward 7!

We are so glad for you. Why aren't your kids so glad to live there?

[Anonymous]

How many crimes committed by adults in Tenleytown involved Tenleytown residents? Probably not many. Indeed, how many crimes in most low-crime neighborhoods are perpetrated by people who live in those neighborhoods? Probably not many. Criminals have this thing about witnesses recognizing them.

I don't think your assumption is correct. Check out the interesting literature on "geographic profiling" as a police investigation technique. Academic research shows that most people commit crimes in areas they are familiar with. So most crimes are committed within 1-2 miles of where the person lives or works (or perhaps in the case of teens, where the person goes to school).

[Anonymous]

I'm the person who got curious this morning about the data, and who looked up the police reports on juvenile arrests. After reading some of the comments posted today, I decided to look at the juvenile arrests in other nearby PSAs, to see how they compare to PSA 202 where Wilson is (31 juvenile arrests in 2015). Below is what I see. All this data is from 2015, which is the most recent data released by MPD.

PSA 203 - This is the area east and south of Tenleytown. It includes UDC, the Zoo, and Cleveland Park, and runs all the way from Macomb St on the south side to Military Road on the north side. For all of 2015, it had only 3 juvenile arrests.

PSA 204 - This covers all those neighborhoods around Observatory Circle and Mass Avenue. For all of 2015, it had 6 juvenile arrests.

PSA 205 - This PSA covers the whole area along MacArthur Blvd and Clara Barton Parkway, and extends east to Mass Ave. It's a really big area, but also fairly inaccessible unless you're in a car or bus. For all of 2015, it had only 2 juvenile arrests.

PSA 201 - This is basically the Lafayette Elementary neighborhood of Chevy Chase DC that's north of Military Road. It wasn't easily searchable in the data because searching for "201" pulls in all the "2015" incident dates. But an eyeball search suggested there were zero juvenile arrests in 2015. I might've missed one or two, but I couldn't find any.

PSA 206 - This covers all of Georgetown, which seems to have a lively teen presence, and probably includes lots of young college students getting arrested (although this probably doesn't include arrests by Georgetown campus police on the actual campus). Only 20 total juvenile arrests in 2015.

PSA 208 - This covers Dupont Circle and Woodley Park. A pretty active place. Only 6 juvenile arrests in 2015.

None of this "proves" anything about Wilson or its students. But I do find it odd that there are nearly 10x as many juvenile arrests in the PSA containing Wilson as in any other surrounding PSA. And more in the Wilson PSA even than in the Georgetown or Dupont PSAs. Perhaps lots of juveniles from all over the city who are intent on committing crimes enjoy trekking all the way out to Tenleytown? I kind of doubt that. I'm sure Wilson students are not the only ones getting arrested, but I have to imagine they represent at least some of that load.

I don't have time (or frankly interest) enough to compare all the PSA from other Districts, but if someone else is interested, it's not hard to do.

[Anonymous]

Go fish where the fish are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:... Glad I live in Ward 7!

We are so glad for you. Why aren't your kids so glad to live there?

Why do you assume my kids don't like it here?

[Anonymous]

So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

Also if the Mayor could make sure only white people are allowed in, that would be great, thanks. Any Browns can take that underground tunnel to and from their miserable homes, but only after they clean our houses/fix stuff/garden/etc. No jobs that would make them uppity, thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

Also if the Mayor could make sure only white people are allowed in, that would be great, thanks. Any Browns can take that underground tunnel to and from their miserable homes, but only after they clean our houses/fix stuff/garden/etc. No jobs that would make them uppity, thanks.

I'm not the person or attitude you're responding to, but the chip on your shoulder will cripple you. As far as I can tell (and at least as far as I am concerned) the problem is with behavior. It's not with color, race, SES, ethnicity, etc. It's about behavior. If you act like a dumb animal, then expect people to want you to be shipped off to a farm. If you act like a polite human being, then I congratulate you on the roller-coaster ride of being a teenager, especially in the modern age.

It's really that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

We are a mixed race family by the way. My children's grandfather (living)and his wife broke many professional and social barriers, including interracial marriage (AA/white) when it was illegal in many places and they avoided travel through some states. We just want a peaceable neighborhood for our kids. We think we have the right to advocate for that when we see an opportunity for betterment. Shocking I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

We are a mixed race family by the way. My children's grandfather (living)and his wife broke many professional and social barriers, including interracial marriage (AA/white) when it was illegal in many places and they avoided travel through some states. We just want a peaceable neighborhood for our kids. We think we have the right to advocate for that when we see an opportunity for betterment. Shocking I guess.

You have every right to advocate for that. You have zero right to bar "non-familiar faces" from your neighborhood. Your race and your children's grandparents are totally irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

We are a mixed race family by the way. My children's grandfather (living)and his wife broke many professional and social barriers, including interracial marriage (AA/white) when it was illegal in many places and they avoided travel through some states. We just want a peaceable neighborhood for our kids. We think we have the right to advocate for that when we see an opportunity for betterment. Shocking I guess.

You have every right to advocate for that. You have zero right to bar "non-familiar faces" from your neighborhood. Your race and your children's grandparents are totally irrelevant.

Who is barring non familiar faces ? Such hyperbole. For some reason people are 100% threatened by the idea of urban community members advocating for livable peaceable streets. Yes I'm urban "even if I live in Tenleytown". I was born in DC and raised in DC not Tenleytown. This is where I happen to live now. We are planning to leave this house to our kids. I am going to do what I can for the area where we invested and spend most of our time. That's so wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

We are a mixed race family by the way. My children's grandfather (living)and his wife broke many professional and social barriers, including interracial marriage (AA/white) when it was illegal in many places and they avoided travel through some states. We just want a peaceable neighborhood for our kids. We think we have the right to advocate for that when we see an opportunity for betterment. Shocking I guess.

You have every right to advocate for that. You have zero right to bar "non-familiar faces" from your neighborhood. Your race and your children's grandparents are totally irrelevant.

Lady, wise up. Wilson is a neighborhood school, like all other DCPS schools. No one OOB has an inalienable right to study here, especially if they can't commit to pretty common behavior standards.

Don't like it? Send your kinds to your own neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the message of all 23 pages here is that if only Tenleytown were a gated community, the OP could eat her Chick Fil A in peace and avoid the indignity of takeout. Do you hear that, Mayor Bowser? Time to start building that wall, right away.

I am the OP and I have not yet been to chic filet, though they gave me a coupon for a sandwich. The takeaway is that there should be more police institutional and community coordination and cooperation to maintain a shared and walkable, shoppable, passthroughable neighborhood. That's the message

We are a mixed race family by the way. My children's grandfather (living)and his wife broke many professional and social barriers, including interracial marriage (AA/white) when it was illegal in many places and they avoided travel through some states. We just want a peaceable neighborhood for our kids. We think we have the right to advocate for that when we see an opportunity for betterment. Shocking I guess.

Shocking indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:... Glad I live in Ward 7!

We are so glad for you. Why aren't your kids so glad to live there?

Why do you assume my kids don't like it here?

Because you seem to be very interested in a Wilson thread.

So, you don't live here, and your kids presumably don't come to Wilson. Why are you posting here?