Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in the neighborhood but have to eyeroll. If businesses are trying to taking steps to avoid congestion at a high traffic period of time and residents are "altering their shopping routines to avoid this crowd," why is this a problem? Individuals have the right to shop when it suits them best, business have the right to configure their customer service setup in the most effective way.

Why is this some kind of emergency that requires government intervention? I live in MoCo and I can assure you that lots of us plan around rush hour traffic etc.

OP, you seem to think the policy should apply only to "this crowd" from Wilson. Oh, the horror, for an hour each day, you can only get takeout from Chick Fil A...I never understand why people who clearly don't want to live in a city choose to live in the city. If you want bucolic suburbia, all you have to do is move.

Great thoughts. To clarify: residents are altering their routine because they feel (or have been) physically and verbally violated. It ranges from jostling, shouted bad language (near them, sometimes at them), to projectile throwing. I have personally witnessed students throwing rocks at cars and also hitting a pedestrian; when safely distanced, I pointed them out to a police officer at 7-11. There have also been (hopefully this will not be repeated this year) after school brawls including knifings on the area where people enter the metro. There is also shoplifting.

I have not eaten at Chick Filet and I am not asking that the policy apply only to Wilson. You did not read closely. I am making the point that it affects all of us.

Why do you refuse to spell the name of the restaurant correctly?

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a policing issue-why aren't more police in the area if there are laws being broken daily?

[Anonymous]

I've definitely felt unsafe and uncomfortable around tenleytown because of the African American Wilson students. It's like they are looking to get into trouble. Where are their oarents? Why don't they have jobs or activities after school? Why are they loitering around?

[Anonymous]

Of course the African Americans families reading this want to brush it under the rug, and spin the public relations cycle. Noooo it isn't their group of kids causing this at all...these are all good kids, whites, Latinos and Asians do it too.

Yeah just not to the extent that they are, as is almost always the case. They always want to keep looking the other way and give their kids a pass at their behavior, and now look at the mess its created.

[Anonymous]

I don't see it as a race issue. I do see it as a rowdy issue. And any application of behavioral norms will help raise the boat of all the kids. By behavioral norms I mean not shoplifting or attacking people in the street --things that go way beyond "kids will be kids'' the knee jerk defense. They should also have something to do/a place to go. It is fun to hang out with your friends. One doesn't always have a club, a job etc. Schedules vary. The school could look at this. They have a beautiful atrium. The idea of bringing food in and having kids hang there is a good one. AGAIN, the school and governing bodies need to be involved in this discussion and address the raised concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course the African Americans families reading this want to brush it under the rug, and spin the public relations cycle. Noooo it isn't their group of kids causing this at all...these are all good kids, whites, Latinos and Asians do it too.

Yeah just not to the extent that they are, as is almost always the case. They always want to keep looking the other way and give their kids a pass at their behavior, and now look at the mess its created.

Actually I'm posting here about this being annoying but typical of teens of all races. I'm white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a policing issue-why aren't more police in the area if there are laws being broken daily?

They aren't. Read the crime reports.

Yelling and hanging out isn't a crime. Even if the middle aged mom is intimidated by your coarse language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a policing issue-why aren't more police in the area if there are laws being broken daily?

They aren't. Read the crime reports.

Yelling and hanging out isn't a crime. Even if the middle aged mom is intimidated by your coarse language.

And there you go. blaming the victims and not wanting any responsibility for civil behavior put on the students.

[Anonymous]

Chick Filet wants their business - but just does not want them hanging around. They clearly went into that spot considering Wilson as a revenue stream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to HS in the Tenley area in the 1980's and many stores would not let us in with backpacks and limited us to 5 teens at a time. One would have to stand outside with the backpacks and only 5 could go in at a time.

Of course we were obnoxious teenagers. They took measures to protect their business. No big deal.

I went to a bucolic suburban high school in the 80s and the one store we could walk to had the exact same policy for the after school hours. This is totally normal. It is a volume problem and a shop owner concern that he couldn't watch a large crowd of kids all at once (shop lifting was a problem).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a policing issue-why aren't more police in the area if there are laws being broken daily?

They aren't. Read the crime reports.

Yelling and hanging out isn't a crime. Even if the middle aged mom is intimidated by your coarse language.

And there you go. blaming the victims and not wanting any responsibility for civil behavior put on the students.

No, the question wasn't about civil manners, but crimes. The police do not have time to strop kids from cursing. They have been called to the few incidents of actual crimes though; they are in the neighborhood at that time, and they do respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a policing issue-why aren't more police in the area if there are laws being broken daily?

They aren't. Read the crime reports.

Yelling and hanging out isn't a crime. Even if the middle aged mom is intimidated by your coarse language.

Good thing you will never be middle-aged yourself!

[Anonymous]

Chick-fil-A, people. Chick-fil-A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It may be there is also good that comes from the school (vibrancy, money spent at businesses) and that could be discussed too.

You think it's only a possibility that public high schools do some good?

[Anonymous]

Op I commend you for drafting a very balanced and neutral assessment of the situation. It's also accurate.

Not so common on dcum