Murder at Lululemon in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Just watched the clip w/ Pat Brown... who is she and what's on her C.V. that made the news channel call her a "profiler"????? She sounds like she read this thread and went on camera!
WTH is she talking about when she says that the killers wearing masks "it's kind of unusual even for robbery" ???!!?!? HUH? Actually, Pat, it's kind of USUAL that a robber tries to obscure identifying features with a mask, headcovering (think hood on sweatshirt or pantyhose over the head) or disguise (including makeup/wigs, etc)

[Anonymous]

I think she meant it would be unusual if it was a planned out robbery of a store without survaillence that was supposed to be empty.

But, yes, she did seem to know little more than any Joe picked off the street. My point in posting was that everyone is speculating, and that insensitive heartless anonymous bitches on DCUM aren't the only ones. We're bitches for our posts on all the other threads

[Anonymous]

Pat Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brown_(criminal_profiler)

[Anonymous]

One of the things I'm curious about that hasn't been discussed is where the victims (presumably) parked when they returned to the store. Given the hour, isn't is possible they both parked right outside the store? If so, where would the assailants have hid with their masks and gloves or had been in the position to observe the victims entering the store?(i.e on Bethesda Ave.) Assuming the victims parked in the garage and/or behind the store gives more credibility to a theory that they (assailants) were there for other reasons - the iPad theory.

I don't think there was any hiding necessarily going on. Gloves wouldn't attract attention on Friday night. And maybe their "masks", whatever they were, were just pulled around their necks or on their heads, just looking all casual like a scarf or watch cap. I really think these two sociopaths were out and up to no good, just looking for victims and happened upon their opportunity. It's alot easier to rape two women in a closed store, out of the way from passersby than in the parking garage on Bethesda Ave. I think the robbery was secondary, more of "well, we're here anyway, let's take some stuff, too" b/c I just can't fathom what they were after at Lululemon as I doubt very much there was a great deal of cash on the premises.

[Anonymous]

I actually do think that masks and especially gloves are unusual for robbery (not burglary). Robbery is of a person, not a building/dwelling. It's like a mugging. (Like in the case of the iPad stealing theory.) And, no, people don't usually wear masks and gloves for that. Especially not on the street in a downtown area on a Friday night.

[Anonymous]

The police say both women were raped. The woman who survived was tied to a chair.

Everyone who thinks it's an inside job is maligning the surviving victim with their crazy theories.

[Anonymous]

No, I think they said she WAS conscious. I thought I hear that when the employee came to open the store the next day she heard heard noises and saw that something was wrong without going all the way in and left to call for help.

[Anonymous]

This can be an intentional not-random crime without one of the victims being "in on it" too. It could have been a crazed ex-boyfriend, a former employee that knew the routines and planned to rob the place but then the girls came back. There could be a number of scenarios that suggest the men knew one or both of the victims or had some connection to the store without one of them being involved in any sort of set-up.

[Anonymous]

I honestly feel sorry for all of you who are being so naïve or as you like to say "sympathetic" to the victim to not entertain the idea of it being an inside job.

I'm not saying that it is or that it isn't because I don't know. I'm not investigating and I was not there but from the little bit of information I do have and my countless Law & Order watching that is definitely a possibility.

I feel sorry for both victims and their families but I do have an open mind. Unfortunately, the world we live in warrants for anything to be possible, so where ever the investigation leads the police will not be shocking alhough it may be supremely gross.

That's what I stay prayed up.

[Anonymous]

6:31 No one knows, not yet, but the chances of an inside job going so wrong that the third person is raped and beaten? And an inside job to accomplish what? This isn't a bank. Apparently the store does little in cash transactions. The surviving victim worked there and knows that.

Sure no one knows, not yet, but folks seem fixated. If that's what you think, fine. But can't you just think it and not post it? Do the victim or her friends need to read this one day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6:31 No one knows, not yet, but the chances of an inside job going so wrong that the third person is raped and beaten? And an inside job to accomplish what? This isn't a bank. Apparently the store does little in cash transactions. The surviving victim worked there and knows that.

Sure no one knows, not yet, but folks seem fixated. If that's what you think, fine. But can't you just think it and not post it? Do the victim or her friends need to read this one day?

He/ She can post what they want! They did not do it in a disrespectful way. They are head on that people are naive to believe that the victim can always be the victim. There are many terrible scenarios that could have occurred for the other to be "in on it" or not. UGH its so annoying already. There are two people on this blog 1) people who think it was totally conicidental and 2) the victim was in on it or knew something. There have been many posts about both so its a little late now to argue and tell people not to post about the victim. Lets just all agree there are a few theories going around and I believe if you present your thoughts properly there is nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous]

The only comical part of this thread are the numerous people who have claimed they have "watched enough Law & Order to know" about these things. Seriously? It's a fictional TV show! Good grief.

[Anonymous]

I watched the interview with Pat Brown and I don't get why anyone thought she was off base. It is a little unusual for anyone to have been wearing masks. first of all they came in from the front. there were 400 people at the Apple Store right next door! When did they put the masks over their faces. Friday night it was warm outside. I am not sure what she meant by it wasn't personal because she said that the possibility existed that it was an inside job. But that it might be unlikely since the other victim was beaten and raped. Maybe she meant it wasn't a personal vendetta. But she basically made it clear that the police were covering ALL grounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only comical part of this thread are the numerous people who have claimed they have "watched enough Law & Order to know" about these things. Seriously? It's a fictional TV show! Good grief.

I have to agree that in the midst of this grim and tragic story, I also found those comments about watching "enough Law and Order to know" pathetic and laughable.

[Anonymous]

7:37 I asked that folks stop the inside job speculation out of respect for the victim. I did not tell them too.