Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?

You must be living in a cave. Study after study has shown that America clings to the juvenile comfort that is religion more than any other “free” nation, and that belief is used to ostracize, bully, drive to suicide, and outright kill gay and trans kids.

We are also toxic AF about what we expect from both boys and girls. Girly boys get bullied all the time. Boyish girls get told to smile and get shut out from jobs and opportunities.

As a nation, we’re a lot closer to the mores and culture of Iran than we are to Britain. (Iran, by the way, condones gender reassignment as a cure for homosexuality. People choose surgery over death). Maybe if gender was no longer a matter of life and death, people wouldn’t fight so hard to change their outward appearance.

Just a thought.

You’re suggesting people pretend to be trans when really they are scared to be female or gay?!

No. But I’m saying it’s a lot easier on you as a trans person in America if you can get medical treatment to “pass”. America is highly resistant to difference and people can’t keep their mouths shut or their fists to themselves.

The answer is to push society to accept wide ranges of gender expression not to convince kids they need to transform their bodies with surgery and hormones!

Well Maryland tried to do that, and the wackjobs objected, and a panel of hair shirt wearing extreme Catholics agreed. A child cannot be forced to learn to treat other people with respect in a public school if their religion says they should stone those people for displeasing their sky fairy.

No, Maryland tried to teach that gender is a “guess” and tried to unconstitutionally contradict parental teachings on the definition of marriage in elementary classrooms.

Gender expression discussions don’t belong in a classroom. Those are adult conversations.

+1. MCPS and dmv private schools teach elementary aged students that gender is fluid and can always change depending on how they feel. They should explore that.

The handout was a 2020 copyright from a DEI & BLM nonprofits. The school district literally selected and paid for this krap and the gender pronoun worksheets. I feel like a [ ] today.

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Anonymous wrote:PS- the county doesn’t really give us enough books to have as read alouds. They only give about 20-30 for the year and now that is all the kids have.

That’s too bad. Our kids gr 2 teacher read classics like Charlottes Web or George & the Giant Peach after recess.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

Over 2 billion Muslims throughout the world would disagree with you.

And those are practicing Muslims

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.

Gds literally tells lower school students to “explore your gender” during these books.

In middle school they tell students to “explore their sexual orientation.”
By then most kids are rolling their eyes but there are a fair amount of kids who don’t get attention at home and they latch on to anything they are told at school.

And the adhd and asd students are prone to taking all of this literally. Oh, I had a bad day, maybe I’m the wrong gender like the book and teacher taught me!

Literally not one single word of this is true. Perhaps you are projecting? I know Sunday schools start indoctrinating girls into their “helpmeet/servant/only good for breeding” roles very young. It must be very hard for you to acknowledge the breadth of difference and experience in this world. Only natural that you’d want to revert back to what is simple and comfortable to you.

Grow up PP. Stop pretending to know anything about my kids school. You are full of lies and no actual information.

It’s absolutely true at GDS.

Georgetown Day School. Check it out yourself. I’m not scanning the syllabus or my kids handouts for you or the weekly emails from lower school days.

My kids aren’t confused by their batty mission and curriculum but we know many who are. Keep it out of schools and at home.

Why do you send your kids there then?

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

Europeans absolutely think America’s race-focus and manufactured gender issues in schools are misguided and ridiculous. Sub Saharan Africans think that too. So does any Black person in London where I’m originally from. They would never move here for this very issue.

+1 educated Africans never want to be confused as an AA. Not here and not abroad.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?

You must be living in a cave. Study after study has shown that America clings to the juvenile comfort that is religion more than any other “free” nation, and that belief is used to ostracize, bully, drive to suicide, and outright kill gay and trans kids.

We are also toxic AF about what we expect from both boys and girls. Girly boys get bullied all the time. Boyish girls get told to smile and get shut out from jobs and opportunities.

As a nation, we’re a lot closer to the mores and culture of Iran than we are to Britain. (Iran, by the way, condones gender reassignment as a cure for homosexuality. People choose surgery over death). Maybe if gender was no longer a matter of life and death, people wouldn’t fight so hard to change their outward appearance.

Just a thought.

lol

Life and death?

Living in Iran?

I’ll smoke some of what you are Pp. Put it in the hookah

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?

You must be living in a cave. Study after study has shown that America clings to the juvenile comfort that is religion more than any other “free” nation, and that belief is used to ostracize, bully, drive to suicide, and outright kill gay and trans kids.

We are also toxic AF about what we expect from both boys and girls. Girly boys get bullied all the time. Boyish girls get told to smile and get shut out from jobs and opportunities.

As a nation, we’re a lot closer to the mores and culture of Iran than we are to Britain. (Iran, by the way, condones gender reassignment as a cure for homosexuality. People choose surgery over death). Maybe if gender was no longer a matter of life and death, people wouldn’t fight so hard to change their outward appearance.

Just a thought.

You’re suggesting people pretend to be trans when really they are scared to be female or gay?!

No. But I’m saying it’s a lot easier on you as a trans person in America if you can get medical treatment to “pass”. America is highly resistant to difference and people can’t keep their mouths shut or their fists to themselves.

The answer is to push society to accept wide ranges of gender expression not to convince kids they need to transform their bodies with surgery and hormones!

OP here. I can get behind this in terms of acceptance. I also accept that if a parent, child and doctor determine that hormones are needed, that is their right.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is why many people abstained from voting, voted independent or held their noses and voted for Trump.

If Dems continue down this path I see a similar fate in 2026 and 2028.

Brilliant post of the year right here. Soo many mediocre men that just crumbled and decided you know what, I want the guy that makes me feel good, even if he is a felon and a rapist and working overtime to destroy the country and get revenge on the loyalists he threw under the bus in 2020.

America deserves what it gets.

And so do trans people. Actions have consequences. You tried to impose your mental disturbance on society by ambush and fascist tactics, and to win your war on sanity by grooming children. You failed. Backlash is your well-deserved reward.

Everyone knows the churches are masters at grooming children. Stop projecting.

At best, your pervert preacher of choice will know that when he’s grooming a boy, he’s going to get into a boy’s pants. And not a girl’s.

We know that’s what’s behind all this. The fundies were having a hard time figuring out which people they could treat like humans and which people they needed to treat like breedstock. They couldn’t tell anymore and it made them very very anxious they might plant the wrong indoctrination in the wrong head.

You continue to ignore that the plaintiffs in the case that inspired OP’s screed were Muslim. Sorry that fact doesnt fit your anti Christian agenda.

+100 Not to mention that most parents who supported this much-needed lawsuit are nonreligious liberals like me. It's such a pathetic cope to pretend that only Christian fundies and ultra right racists want trans activism out of schools and far from kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

Europeans absolutely think America’s race-focus and manufactured gender issues in schools are misguided and ridiculous. Sub Saharan Africans think that too. So does any Black person in London where I’m originally from. They would never move here for this very issue.

So people who never lived in America have opinions about the experiences of people who lived in America. I mean, maybe ask your black South African friends if they think Americans have overreacted.

DP. South Africa and Haiti ran themselves into the ground since their independence and revolutions.

But no need to live in America. Hip hop, twerking, nba & nfl, rapper moguls, Diddy, obesity*10, wear your logo designer clothes/hat/bag, have bad manners, I’m a victim USA?

Your values are in FULL display ALL the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.

Gds literally tells lower school students to “explore your gender” during these books.

In middle school they tell students to “explore their sexual orientation.”
By then most kids are rolling their eyes but there are a fair amount of kids who don’t get attention at home and they latch on to anything they are told at school.

And the adhd and asd students are prone to taking all of this literally. Oh, I had a bad day, maybe I’m the wrong gender like the book and teacher taught me!

Literally not one single word of this is true. Perhaps you are projecting? I know Sunday schools start indoctrinating girls into their “helpmeet/servant/only good for breeding” roles very young. It must be very hard for you to acknowledge the breadth of difference and experience in this world. Only natural that you’d want to revert back to what is simple and comfortable to you.

Grow up PP. Stop pretending to know anything about my kids school. You are full of lies and no actual information.

It’s absolutely true at GDS.

Georgetown Day School. Check it out yourself. I’m not scanning the syllabus or my kids handouts for you or the weekly emails from lower school days.

My kids aren’t confused by their batty mission and curriculum but we know many who are. Keep it out of schools and at home.

Since when did GDS become a public school? Next thing you know you’re going to tell me that Gonzaga teaches about Jesus. A private school serving the morals of its paying clientele. Oh the humanity.

MCPS did the same. Hence the lawsuits.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.

This issue has nothing to do with being gay. Even most Republicans are totally fine with that. That is not an issue at all. It's the trans thing that has parents concerned - as evidenced by the gazillion comments here on a very peripheral issue for most people. There were a couple of years when every middle schooler in blue areas seemed to be questioning their gender. Human beings have existed for 300,000 years. There's nothing new under the sun. And all of a sudden gender fluidity became a norm. Puberty blockers on kids were deemed acceptable. And you were called a TERF or whatever if you questioned anything.

Everyone understands that there is a small minority of people that have gender dysmorphia. But acceptance has turned into encouragement for very vulnerable 12, 13, 14, 15 year olds, particularly those on the spectrum who process things differently. Basically, the propagation of trans normalization seems abusive to a lot of people. Not to mention the unfairness of trans women in women's sports. And the dangers of trans women in prisons and shelters and so on.

People conflating the lgbq community with the particular issues relating to the trans community are missing it. Gay men and women are just as concerned as straight folks.

Again - exactly where are you seeing this propagated so that all children are questioning their gender. I was in a car with a bunch of 14 yo girls tonight and not one of them sounded like that. On the other hand I did get that with my older child.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

Agree.

All those flags and decorations passed around are uncomfortable for everyone- most teachers, parents and students. No need for that at school.

In Wash DC the large international population really finds this all stupid and unnecessary. And the math expectations too low. So two way swing in the misguided USA schools.
Those are to two comments we always hear at IMF, world bank, IfC, the neighborhood and soccer games.

The rest of the civilized world isn’t as religious as we are. In America, we’re not too far off from the time where we burned uppity women and picnicked at the feet of black men lynched by preachers wearing sheets.

are you kidding me?

2 billion Muslims, 1.4 billion Catholics, and 1 million Christians in the world disagree with you.
That’s way more than any religious segment in America.

Plus it’s only America and some other western EU countries having this gender affirmation identity issue and projecting it onto minors before, during and after puberty. As if that time period is t bad enough now your school wants to you consider a sex change to tell better!

England and some away countries have already outlawed hormones and surgeries for minors.

Do you even live in DC? Or in a cave?

You must be living in a cave. Study after study has shown that America clings to the juvenile comfort that is religion more than any other “free” nation, and that belief is used to ostracize, bully, drive to suicide, and outright kill gay and trans kids.

We are also toxic AF about what we expect from both boys and girls. Girly boys get bullied all the time. Boyish girls get told to smile and get shut out from jobs and opportunities.

As a nation, we’re a lot closer to the mores and culture of Iran than we are to Britain. (Iran, by the way, condones gender reassignment as a cure for homosexuality. People choose surgery over death). Maybe if gender was no longer a matter of life and death, people wouldn’t fight so hard to change their outward appearance.

Just a thought.

You’re suggesting people pretend to be trans when really they are scared to be female or gay?!

No. But I’m saying it’s a lot easier on you as a trans person in America if you can get medical treatment to “pass”. America is highly resistant to difference and people can’t keep their mouths shut or their fists to themselves.

The answer is to push society to accept wide ranges of gender expression not to convince kids they need to transform their bodies with surgery and hormones!

OP here. I can get behind this in terms of acceptance. I also accept that if a parent, child and doctor determine that hormones are needed, that is their right.

No, society has a prevailing interest in not allowing weak or depraved parents to mutilate their kids in collusion with greedy doctors. When FGM was illegalized, there were plenty of doctors performing it for the sake of profit. That didn't stop sane people from organizing and having both the parents and the doctors stopped.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.

This issue has nothing to do with being gay. Even most Republicans are totally fine with that. That is not an issue at all. It's the trans thing that has parents concerned - as evidenced by the gazillion comments here on a very peripheral issue for most people. There were a couple of years when every middle schooler in blue areas seemed to be questioning their gender. Human beings have existed for 300,000 years. There's nothing new under the sun. And all of a sudden gender fluidity became a norm. Puberty blockers on kids were deemed acceptable. And you were called a TERF or whatever if you questioned anything.

Everyone understands that there is a small minority of people that have gender dysmorphia. But acceptance has turned into encouragement for very vulnerable 12, 13, 14, 15 year olds, particularly those on the spectrum who process things differently. Basically, the propagation of trans normalization seems abusive to a lot of people. Not to mention the unfairness of trans women in women's sports. And the dangers of trans women in prisons and shelters and so on.

People conflating the lgbq community with the particular issues relating to the trans community are missing it. Gay men and women are just as concerned as straight folks.

Again - exactly where are you seeing this propagated so that all children are questioning their gender. I was in a car with a bunch of 14 yo girls tonight and not one of them sounded like that. On the other hand I did get that with my older child.

NP. Are you really too narcissistic and stupid to understand that issues aren't defined by what you claim to be seeing personally?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with your premise, OP.
But, I do agree with what the person who wrote this said....

Leading up to Obergefell, we were assured that people who held to the historic and natural understanding of family would be left alone. How can redefining marriage possibly hurt you? Turns out, “live and let live” was a lie, and we said so at the time.

In the blink of an eye, the LGB movement grew to encompass half the alphabet and we got drag queen story hour, Christian bakers and florists being sued out of business, teachers transing children behind parents’ backs, and moms and dads losing custody of their kids for refusing to sterilize them.

Ten years later, the Skrmetti decision pushed back hard on the idea that sex is an irrelevant socially constructed concept and support for SSM has dropped notably including well below a majority for Republicans. Quite the anniversary.

Ridiculous! FFS nobody is transing your kid wtf that means.

Agree. PP what are you reading that makes you think this is somehow taking over society? Look around your everyday surroundings. Be honest. How often do you yourself actually experience these things? I’d guess never.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.