NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

[Anonymous]

I haven't read thread but what is a pronoun pin?

[Anonymous]

I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like listing your pronouns under your name, in your email for instance, is simply superfluous for the 99% of people who have gendered names. If your name is Amanda, you are most likely she/her. If you are the very rare man named Amanda, then by all means include "he/him" after your name. Most trans people change their name to a gendered name of the sex they identify with. I dont' understand the need to list pronouns also.

Of course, pronouns might be helpful when corresponding with Sams, Teagans, and Corys.

-1. I corresponds by email at work most of the times. I have not added my preferred pronouns to my signature yet although many colleagues have done it recently. You have a very limited experience if you think you only corresponds with Maries and Amandas. I corresponds with clients, colleagues ( on same side or opposite side), professionals in a gov agency. I cannot count the times I googled somebody’s name to find a photo or something to understand if I had to say Ms or Mr. same names can be either in English but tons of names are not typical Anglo Saxon names. With the pronoun at the end of an email makes a lot easier to respond appropriately. This is even more useful when corresponding with foreigners . A female colleague kept receiving email addresses to Mr because foreign colleagues through her last name (which is a male first name) was her name. It is just easy when you correspond with people you don’t know

LoL!! As an immigrant, I seriously laugh my head off at your first world problems. Let me assure you, it doesn't really matter if someone addresses you by the incorrect pronoun. It maybe a little annoying, but if THIS is what sets you off to the point of hurting a patient/debating for 30 pages, then you are lead an EXTREMELY privileged and entitled life. IMO, its narcissistic and performative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like listing your pronouns under your name, in your email for instance, is simply superfluous for the 99% of people who have gendered names. If your name is Amanda, you are most likely she/her. If you are the very rare man named Amanda, then by all means include "he/him" after your name. Most trans people change their name to a gendered name of the sex they identify with. I dont' understand the need to list pronouns also.

Of course, pronouns might be helpful when corresponding with Sams, Teagans, and Corys.

-1. I corresponds by email at work most of the times. I have not added my preferred pronouns to my signature yet although many colleagues have done it recently. You have a very limited experience if you think you only corresponds with Maries and Amandas. I corresponds with clients, colleagues ( on same side or opposite side), professionals in a gov agency. I cannot count the times I googled somebody’s name to find a photo or something to understand if I had to say Ms or Mr. same names can be either in English but tons of names are not typical Anglo Saxon names. With the pronoun at the end of an email makes a lot easier to respond appropriately. This is even more useful when corresponding with foreigners . A female colleague kept receiving email addresses to Mr because foreign colleagues through her last name (which is a male first name) was her name. It is just easy when you correspond with people you don’t know

LoL!! As an immigrant, I seriously laugh my head off at your first world problems. Let me assure you, it doesn't really matter if someone addresses you by the incorrect pronoun. It maybe a little annoying, but if THIS is what sets you off to the point of hurting a patient/debating for 30 pages, then you are lead an EXTREMELY privileged and entitled life. IMO, its narcissistic and performative.

She didn’t intentionally hurt the patient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like listing your pronouns under your name, in your email for instance, is simply superfluous for the 99% of people who have gendered names. If your name is Amanda, you are most likely she/her. If you are the very rare man named Amanda, then by all means include "he/him" after your name. Most trans people change their name to a gendered name of the sex they identify with. I dont' understand the need to list pronouns also.

Of course, pronouns might be helpful when corresponding with Sams, Teagans, and Corys.

-1. I corresponds by email at work most of the times. I have not added my preferred pronouns to my signature yet although many colleagues have done it recently. You have a very limited experience if you think you only corresponds with Maries and Amandas. I corresponds with clients, colleagues ( on same side or opposite side), professionals in a gov agency. I cannot count the times I googled somebody’s name to find a photo or something to understand if I had to say Ms or Mr. same names can be either in English but tons of names are not typical Anglo Saxon names. With the pronoun at the end of an email makes a lot easier to respond appropriately. This is even more useful when corresponding with foreigners . A female colleague kept receiving email addresses to Mr because foreign colleagues through her last name (which is a male first name) was her name. It is just easy when you correspond with people you don’t know

LoL!! As an immigrant, I seriously laugh my head off at your first world problems. Let me assure you, it doesn't really matter if someone addresses you by the incorrect pronoun. It maybe a little annoying, but if THIS is what sets you off to the point of hurting a patient/debating for 30 pages, then you are lead an EXTREMELY privileged and entitled life. IMO, its narcissistic and performative.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

[Anonymous]

It’s good that she learned this early that this is not the right career path for her. In 10 years it would be too late and she would be really bitter. It’s not for many people. Patients are usually angry, scared, bitter, and/or mentally ill. You see the worst of people more often than not. You cant get personal feelings with any of that. She obviously is not cut out for it. It probably feels like a disaster for her but it’s in some ways the opposite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

She didn’t say it was unintentional either. You certainly cannot say with any certainty that it wasn’t intentional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are doctors/med students wearing pronoun pins, anyway? Is it part of a class on virtue signaling?

This was my question.

Why wouldn't they?

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What’s wrong with pronoun pins?

When was the last time you saw a doctor wearing anything on scrubs/lab coat other than a name tag/ID or maybe a stethoscope. What possible purpose does announcing pronouns to someone who didn't ask serve?

Maybe it's different because I'm in Peds, but most doctors and nurses have fun pins on their coats/sweaters/scrubs. Also, at least at my hospital, you can get a new ID badge with your pronouns under your name if you want.

The purpose of everyone stating their pronouns is to make it more mainstream and normalized. That way trans and nonbinary individuals don't have to feel like outsiders when they let someone know that they have preferred pronouns. Using the correct pronouns, IMO, is just a normal level of respect. Kind of like not calling an Amanda 'Mandy' if they ask you not to or not taking someone's (complex to you) ethnic name and saying "I can't say that so I'm going to call you Sunny!"

And this, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with it.

Why? What’s wrong with normalizing preferred pronouns?

Because there is nothing normal about having to state one's "preferred pronouns."

That’s the point. To make it more “normal”.

Why shouldn’t it be “normal”?

Because it's not. If I have to explain that you, well, I'm sorry for you.

You do have to explain it. BC you're being unnecessarily hateful. Why do you think you get to tell someone else what's "normal" for what they prefer to be called? Just b/c it makes you uncomfortable?

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PP won’t say it out loud because she knows she’s hateful and wrong.

PP again, and happy to "say it out loud," although I don't know how one does that in writing on a message board.

I'm not hateful and I'm not wrong.

People who feel the need to announce their pronouns, or worse, expect/ ask/ demand that others do so, are either a) woke virtue signalers; b) ostriches with their heads in the sand and simply going along to get along because they don't want to bother speaking up about something that they know is silly at best and damaging at worst, but seems to be the current fad; or c) mentally disturbed.

You pick which one best fits you.

That's right. Be proud of your hatefulness. Show us your true colors.

You are hateful..and crazy, like those homeless racists who push people onto train tracks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.