DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]
We've already been through this multiple times. DPR's own rules prioritize DC public schools. Private entities that have fewer than 75% DC residents, like Maret, are at the bottom of the priority list -- unless they get a side deal. Hence, the outrage.[/quote]

Once again, the Maret boosters have no argument so they don't want to argue facts, they just want to sow confusion and cast aspersions.

[Anonymous]

The problem is Hardy is a middle school. Middle schools do not have the demand for a facility the size of Jelleff. Hardy is in Georgetown, west of the park. How do you justify to other DC middle school families giving Hardy facilities and a budget that will be on par with a high school? Also it sounds like you are saying Hardy’s facilities are okay for school but not okay for aftercare? That does not make sense.

So you're saying that it's better to let a private school -- that doesn't principally serve DC kids -- use than a public school, because that school is a middle school? So should Deal sign over its even-larger field? They could probably serve two private schools there.

[Anonymous]

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
We've already been through this multiple times. DPR's own rules prioritize DC public schools. Private entities that have fewer than 75% DC residents, like Maret, are at the bottom of the priority list -- unless they get a side deal. Hence, the outrage.[/quote]

Once again, the Maret boosters have no argument so they don't want to argue facts, they just want to sow confusion and cast aspersions. [/quote]

+1. And for the millionth time on this thread. There are many schools and orgs who would like to use Jelleff during afterschool hours, the Boys and Girls club, Hardy, Eaton, Mann, Hyde Addison, stoddert etc. no shortage of interested parties where kids don’t have to spend $40k to participate as students must do to be a part of a Maret

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The problem is Hardy is a middle school. Middle schools do not have the demand for a facility the size of Jelleff. Hardy is in Georgetown, west of the park. How do you justify to other DC middle school families giving Hardy facilities and a budget that will be on par with a high school? Also it sounds like you are saying Hardy’s facilities are okay for school but not okay for aftercare? That does not make sense.

So you're saying that it's better to let a private school -- that doesn't principally serve DC kids -- use than a public school, because that school is a middle school? So should Deal sign over its even-larger field? They could probably serve two private schools there.

Maret’s a tiny school with pretty weak athletics. They don’t need Jelleff either. Let public parks be public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.

It’s a dog park now. There is no way to return it to use as an athletic field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.

It’s a dog park now. There is no way to return it to use as an athletic field.

What do you mean, there's no way to return it to use as an athletic field? Post it for no dogs (school fields are prohibited to dogs, whether leashed or off leash) and re-seed the grass. It seems like Ellington has basically abandoned it. If they want to upgrade to artificial turf, then they may have to ask Maret to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.

So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

How about Hardy uses Jelleff and Maret finds its own field? That way we don't have to have Maret parents gaslight for 165+ pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.

So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.

Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.

I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.

Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.

Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.

How about Hardy uses Jelleff and Maret finds its own field? That way we don't have to have Maret parents gaslight for 165+ pages.

this. It boggles my mind why Maret has dug in on keeping the Jelleff field in face of such strong opposition from everyone. They must be financially struggling and dependent on having a field that they only pay $95k/year for.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
We've already been through this multiple times. DPR's own rules prioritize DC public schools. Private entities that have fewer than 75% DC residents, like Maret, are at the bottom of the priority list -- unless they get a side deal. Hence, the outrage.[/quote]

Once again, the Maret boosters have no argument so they don't want to argue facts, they just want to sow confusion and cast aspersions. [/quote]

+1. And for the millionth time on this thread. There are many schools and orgs who would like to use Jelleff during afterschool hours, the Boys and Girls club, Hardy, Eaton, Mann, Hyde Addison, stoddert etc. no shortage of interested parties where kids don’t have to spend $40k to participate as students must do to be a part of a Maret [/quote]

+2 million

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
We've already been through this multiple times. DPR's own rules prioritize DC public schools. Private [b]entities that have fewer than 75% DC residents, like Maret, are at the bottom of the priority list[/b] -- unless they get a side deal. Hence, the outrage.[/quote]

Once again, the Maret boosters have no argument so they don't want to argue facts, they just want to sow confusion and cast aspersions. [/quote]

+1. And for the millionth time on this thread. There are many schools and orgs who would like to use Jelleff during afterschool hours, the Boys and Girls club, Hardy, Eaton, Mann, Hyde Addison, stoddert etc. no shortage of interested parties where kids don’t have to spend $40k to participate as students must do to be a part of a Maret [/quote]

+2 million [/quote]

Ha! Where would this leave Duke Ellington (aka the PG School of the Arts)??