DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
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| Not all private schools act this way. |
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I think you mean where the parents pay taxes. In any event and if that were the case, thencDCPS would be aggressively dumping a large number of its students on the other side of the MD state line! |
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Come on. Stop drinking the DCLS Kool-Aid. Selfish, lazy staff are a chronic problem. To be sure there are some good, even a few outstanding, teachers. But a lot of them would never give up their free parking so they students have a place on school property to play.[/quote]
This has ... what to do with Maret and now other private schools locking in a sweetheart deal on a public soccer field?[/quote] +1 As someone mentioned up thread, if Maret wanted to live the values it claims to espouse, it could dig up its parking lot and put it underground as Sidwell did and have room for a regulation size playing field. But they have decided it’s better that they mooch off DC taxpayers. [/quote] DC taxpayers have been paying for Bowser’s friends to live large off of no-bid DC contracts (with no results) in their PG mini-mansions. Meanwhile the Maret community has footed the cost of actual physical infrastructure improvements at Jelleff. Your kids benefit from those improvements paid for by Maret. If there are moochers in this equation, they are not from Maret.[/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. Once again... Maret uses the land for free. DC can afford the improvements too. My kids don’t benefit from Maret’s improvements; the handful of times they have been on the field, it was non-prime hours when other fields were available. Bowser being shady does not make Maret’s (also no-bid) deal less corrupt. Next? [/quote] +1. I find it shocking that the primary defense Maret seems to use is that DC is so corrupt that their little piece of corruption means nothing. Who wants people with that type of morality educating their children? (And who is dim enough to pay $40k/year for amoral instruction?)[/quote] And let it be known that Maret is sucking off the taxpayer teat because not only are they paying a ridiculously low price for Jelleff, they also don’t pay property taxes as a nonprofit organization (albeit a wealthy nonprofit that pays its head of school 400k/year which is 4x more than it will pay the DC govt to use Jelleff.)[/quote] And Maret effectively frees up coveted places in good Upper Northwest schools that would otherwise be filled by Maret kids. This way, you can get an out of bounds seat for your child in one of those schools instead of being stuck in some Mediocre to failing public school in your neighborhood. And even though their kids are not using the public schools, Maret parents in DC still pay through the nose in taxes to support DCPS, one of the best-funded school systems on a per capita student basis in the nation. (Hoe much of that money actually reaches the classroom, as opposed to being sucked away through waste, fraud and ineptitude is a different issue.) And parents obviously pay Maret tuition on top of that. So don’t begrudge a tax break for Maret and other nonprofits. By the way, nonprofits are a huge employment sector in the District.[/quote] Nope, you pay your taxes just like everyone else. Then you can choose to send your kids public or private. If private, you pay. That’s the deal. No breaks for you. And what about the families who live in Va and Md? Using DC public rec facilities but not paying any taxes. How about Maret only allows the kids who are DC residents to practice at Jelleff? The other kids can practice where they pay taxes. [/quote] |
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Come on. Stop drinking the DCLS Kool-Aid. Selfish, lazy staff are a chronic problem. To be sure there are some good, even a few outstanding, teachers. But a lot of them would never give up their free parking so they students have a place on school property to play.[/quote]
This has ... what to do with Maret and now other private schools locking in a sweetheart deal on a public soccer field?[/quote] +1 As someone mentioned up thread, if Maret wanted to live the values it claims to espouse, it could dig up its parking lot and put it underground as Sidwell did and have room for a regulation size playing field. But they have decided it’s better that they mooch off DC taxpayers. [/quote] DC taxpayers have been paying for Bowser’s friends to live large off of no-bid DC contracts (with no results) in their PG mini-mansions. Meanwhile the Maret community has footed the cost of actual physical infrastructure improvements at Jelleff. Your kids benefit from those improvements paid for by Maret. If there are moochers in this equation, they are not from Maret.[/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. Once again... Maret uses the land for free. DC can afford the improvements too. My kids don’t benefit from Maret’s improvements; the handful of times they have been on the field, it was non-prime hours when other fields were available. Bowser being shady does not make Maret’s (also no-bid) deal less corrupt. Next? [/quote] +1. I find it shocking that the primary defense Maret seems to use is that DC is so corrupt that their little piece of corruption means nothing. Who wants people with that type of morality educating their children? (And who is dim enough to pay $40k/year for amoral instruction?)[/quote] And let it be known that Maret is sucking off the taxpayer teat because not only are they paying a ridiculously low price for Jelleff, they also don’t pay property taxes as a nonprofit organization (albeit a wealthy nonprofit that pays its head of school 400k/year which is 4x more than it will pay the DC govt to use Jelleff.)[/quote] And Maret effectively frees up coveted places in good Upper Northwest schools that would otherwise be filled by Maret kids. This way, you can get an out of bounds seat for your child in one of those schools instead of being stuck in some Mediocre to failing public school in your neighborhood. And even though their kids are not using the public schools, Maret parents in DC still pay through the nose in taxes to support DCPS, one of the best-funded school systems on a per capita student basis in the nation. (Hoe much of that money actually reaches the classroom, as opposed to being sucked away through waste, fraud and ineptitude is a different issue.) And parents obviously pay Maret tuition on top of that. So don’t begrudge a tax break for Maret and other nonprofits. By the way, nonprofits are a huge employment sector in the District.[/quote] Nope, you pay your taxes just like everyone else. Then you can choose to send your kids public or private. If private, you pay. That’s the deal. No breaks for you. And what about the families who live in Va and Md? Using DC public rec facilities but not paying any taxes. How about Maret only allows the kids who are DC residents to practice at Jelleff? The other kids can practice where they pay taxes. [/quote][/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. |
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| If this after school program at Jelleff is so terrible and deprived, then why do parents send their kids there, particularly from elsewhere in the city? Your class oppression arguments are ridiculous. |
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Oh the Maret bubble. It must be sad to be so ignorant. |
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Really. Why don't those parents just have the nanny take the kid to the club for golf or tennis lessons like a normal person? /s |
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What’s the answer to the question? |
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Um, childcare is hard to find? |
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And hard to afford. |
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Not everyone has the privilege to give their kids 40k/year options like Maret parents do. So we do the best we can. Maret makes the life of these poor kids so much harder by taking resources that taxpayers intended for the community. |
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Any hope that this deal won't happen? I really think this needs to be investigated to learn more about Evans role in this sweetheart deal. At the very least, there needs to be a guarantee from the Council that this deal will never be renewed.
I am also curious if Maret is honoring its commitment to open up the field on Wednesdays? Or was that an empty promise? |
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No, the mayor is in the bag, and the city is moving forward with taking Ellington’s field. Without talking to them first, apparently. |
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Come on. Stop drinking the DCLS Kool-Aid. Selfish, lazy staff are a chronic problem. To be sure there are some good, even a few outstanding, teachers. But a lot of them would never give up their free parking so they students have a place on school property to play.[/quote]
This has ... what to do with Maret and now other private schools locking in a sweetheart deal on a public soccer field?[/quote] +1 As someone mentioned up thread, if Maret wanted to live the values it claims to espouse, it could dig up its parking lot and put it underground as Sidwell did and have room for a regulation size playing field. But they have decided it’s better that they mooch off DC taxpayers. [/quote] DC taxpayers have been paying for Bowser’s friends to live large off of no-bid DC contracts (with no results) in their PG mini-mansions. Meanwhile the Maret community has footed the cost of actual physical infrastructure improvements at Jelleff. Your kids benefit from those improvements paid for by Maret. If there are moochers in this equation, they are not from Maret.[/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. Once again... Maret uses the land for free. DC can afford the improvements too. My kids don’t benefit from Maret’s improvements; the handful of times they have been on the field, it was non-prime hours when other fields were available. Bowser being shady does not make Maret’s (also no-bid) deal less corrupt. Next? [/quote] +1. I find it shocking that the primary defense Maret seems to use is that DC is so corrupt that their little piece of corruption means nothing. Who wants people with that type of morality educating their children? (And who is dim enough to pay $40k/year for amoral instruction?)[/quote] And let it be known that Maret is sucking off the taxpayer teat because not only are they paying a ridiculously low price for Jelleff, they also don’t pay property taxes as a nonprofit organization (albeit a wealthy nonprofit that pays its head of school 400k/year which is 4x more than it will pay the DC govt to use Jelleff.)[/quote] And Maret effectively frees up coveted places in good Upper Northwest schools that would otherwise be filled by Maret kids. This way, you can get an out of bounds seat for your child in one of those schools instead of being stuck in some Mediocre to failing public school in your neighborhood. And even though their kids are not using the public schools, Maret parents in DC still pay through the nose in taxes to support DCPS, one of the best-funded school systems on a per capita student basis in the nation. (Hoe much of that money actually reaches the classroom, as opposed to being sucked away through waste, fraud and ineptitude is a different issue.) And parents obviously pay Maret tuition on top of that. So don’t begrudge a tax break for Maret and other nonprofits. By the way, nonprofits are a huge employment sector in the District.[/quote] Nope, you pay your taxes just like everyone else. Then you can choose to send your kids public or private. If private, you pay. That’s the deal. No breaks for you. And what about the families who live in Va and Md? Using DC public rec facilities but not paying any taxes. How about Maret only allows the kids who are DC residents to practice at Jelleff? The other kids can practice where they pay taxes. [/quote][/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. [/quote] Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget. The problem is Hardy is a middle school. Middle schools do not have the demand for a facility the size of Jelleff. Hardy is in Georgetown, west of the park. How do you justify to other DC middle school families giving Hardy facilities and a budget that will be on par with a high school? Also it sounds like you are saying Hardy’s facilities are okay for school but not okay for aftercare? That does not make sense. |
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Come on. Stop drinking the DCLS Kool-Aid. Selfish, lazy staff are a chronic problem. To be sure there are some good, even a few outstanding, teachers. But a lot of them would never give up their free parking so they students have a place on school property to play.[/quote]
This has ... what to do with Maret and now other private schools locking in a sweetheart deal on a public soccer field?[/quote] +1 As someone mentioned up thread, if Maret wanted to live the values it claims to espouse, it could dig up its parking lot and put it underground as Sidwell did and have room for a regulation size playing field. But they have decided it’s better that they mooch off DC taxpayers. [/quote] DC taxpayers have been paying for Bowser’s friends to live large off of no-bid DC contracts (with no results) in their PG mini-mansions. Meanwhile the Maret community has footed the cost of actual physical infrastructure improvements at Jelleff. Your kids benefit from those improvements paid for by Maret. If there are moochers in this equation, they are not from Maret.[/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. Once again... Maret uses the land for free. DC can afford the improvements too. My kids don’t benefit from Maret’s improvements; the handful of times they have been on the field, it was non-prime hours when other fields were available. Bowser being shady does not make Maret’s (also no-bid) deal less corrupt. Next? [/quote] +1. I find it shocking that the primary defense Maret seems to use is that DC is so corrupt that their little piece of corruption means nothing. Who wants people with that type of morality educating their children? (And who is dim enough to pay $40k/year for amoral instruction?)[/quote] And let it be known that Maret is sucking off the taxpayer teat because not only are they paying a ridiculously low price for Jelleff, they also don’t pay property taxes as a nonprofit organization (albeit a wealthy nonprofit that pays its head of school 400k/year which is 4x more than it will pay the DC govt to use Jelleff.)[/quote] And Maret effectively frees up coveted places in good Upper Northwest schools that would otherwise be filled by Maret kids. This way, you can get an out of bounds seat for your child in one of those schools instead of being stuck in some Mediocre to failing public school in your neighborhood. And even though their kids are not using the public schools, Maret parents in DC still pay through the nose in taxes to support DCPS, one of the best-funded school systems on a per capita student basis in the nation. (Hoe much of that money actually reaches the classroom, as opposed to being sucked away through waste, fraud and ineptitude is a different issue.) And parents obviously pay Maret tuition on top of that. So don’t begrudge a tax break for Maret and other nonprofits. By the way, nonprofits are a huge employment sector in the District.[/quote] Nope, you pay your taxes just like everyone else. Then you can choose to send your kids public or private. If private, you pay. That’s the deal. No breaks for you. And what about the families who live in Va and Md? Using DC public rec facilities but not paying any taxes. How about Maret only allows the kids who are DC residents to practice at Jelleff? The other kids can practice where they pay taxes. [/quote][/quote] Few DC resident public school kids get to go to Jelleff afterschool because Maret is hogging it, so how are “our kids” benefitting from the field? And for the $95k/year Maret has committed to Jelleff, doesn’t sound like any meaningful improvements will be made to the field that DC taxpayers paid $15 million for. I’m sure the Dc resident kids of the boys and girls club who currently hang out in the basement while Maret has exclusive afterschool rights to the huge field would be thrilled if they could have even a fraction of the access that Maret has. Yet even though 40% of Maret kids are VA or MD residents they have dibs on a DC taxpayer funded field. What a sad state of Dc governance. The only silver lining is that it looks like corrupt Maret parent jack Evans will be ousted from the DC Council soon. [/quote] Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget. The problem is Hardy is a middle school. Middle schools do not have the demand for a facility the size of Jelleff. Hardy is in Georgetown, west of the park. How do you justify to other DC middle school families giving Hardy facilities and a budget that will be on par with a high school? Also it sounds like you are saying Hardy’s facilities are okay for school but not okay for aftercare? That does not make sense. [/quote] We've already been through this multiple times. DPR's own rules prioritize DC public schools. Private entities that have fewer than 75% DC residents, like Maret, are at the bottom of the priority list -- unless they get a side deal. Hence, the outrage. |