With Love, Meghan on Netflix

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It seems like he wants to reconcile and misses his heritage and family and friends, and knows this pain will also pass to his children, who will long for what they’ve missed. Meghan fills his head with nonsense, you can almost hear the two sides as he talks, his voice changes slightly and his eyes change. There are his statements, then he parrots her arguments. It’s chilling. I know he’s a broken man, but it’s borderline exploitation. I feel like the older the kids get, the more he realizes what is being done to them that cannot be undone.
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Anonymous wrote:Why can't the grandkids facetime with Charles?


I think they would like tape it. Or take a photo of it and post is on her new Instagram. Also what a hypocrite now poster her kids every single day on her Instagram after all her “social justice warrioring” about the dangers of kids and social media. They can afford their lifestyle, don’t want to downsize/downgrade, and that is why they want a reconciliation.

They have a mortgage on the Monticito home, and are paying maybe a 1mm on security per year, plus flying private etc. All their endeavors have been flops or like mediocre successes. As Ever was #1 in Lithuania for more than 1 week. These “wins” aren’t going to pay for the lifestyle they want. They either need support from bank of dad or they need the royal affiliation to sell and make money off of and the royals refuse to be sold, that’s why they have nothing to do with them.

I bet living in 5mm newly renovated frogmore cottage in Windsor park with security and other perks like no bills or gardeners, private schools paid for, rich life long friends whose planes you can jump on with regularity, and a second home in the Cotswolds (which they would’ve gotten if they had played nice), while having like 50-100 partial day ribbon cutting ceremonies per year and zero stress about money as everything is taken care of and they had a million pound allowance. But they had to have billions! But those billions never materialized and now Harry is realizing that 60milliom dollars can run out really quickly when you spend 3million or more per year.
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Anonymous wrote:So in the written statement Harry put out he says “the Royal Household remain his sole representative on RAVEC” that made security call. So does that translate to my dad didn’t ask for Harry’s security like Harry wanted him to? If so, how is anyone getting an ask for reconciliation? Isn’t this a public statement to say my dad (or William) is the bad one? Or what does the quote mean?


I read it had placing the blame squarely on the RF (dad or William or another family member). He also said he asked Charles to step aside so that the professionals can do their job. I interpreted this as meaning possibly the RF were the roadblocks to getting the green light. Either way, he is putting blame on his family.


It doesn't even make any sense. Before Charles became King, Queen Elizabeth's Private Secretary Sir Edward Young wrote a letter on her and the BRF's behalf to RAVEC telling them it was the family's wish that Harry and Meghan kept their security. This letter was revealed in court documents. Even then, it didn't matter. RAVEC did their review and decided they weren't going to take that under advisement and that the threat level did not rise to the amount that would be needed for this type of security. Since the UK is a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute monarchy, the Queen did not have the power to influence the government's decision. I'm not quite sure why Harry expects Charles to be any different.
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At least we’re in agreement that the kids exist. That’s progress.
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Anonymous wrote:So in the written statement Harry put out he says “the Royal Household remain his sole representative on RAVEC” that made security call. So does that translate to my dad didn’t ask for Harry’s security like Harry wanted him to? If so, how is anyone getting an ask for reconciliation? Isn’t this a public statement to say my dad (or William) is the bad one? Or what does the quote mean?


I read it had placing the blame squarely on the RF (dad or William or another family member). He also said he asked Charles to step aside so that the professionals can do their job. I interpreted this as meaning possibly the RF were the roadblocks to getting the green light. Either way, he is putting blame on his family.


It doesn't even make any sense. Before Charles became King, Queen Elizabeth's Private Secretary Sir Edward Young wrote a letter on her and the BRF's behalf to RAVEC telling them it was the family's wish that Harry and Meghan kept their security. This letter was revealed in court documents. Even then, it didn't matter. RAVEC did their review and decided they weren't going to take that under advisement and that the threat level did not rise to the amount that would be needed for this type of security. Since the UK is a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute monarchy, the Queen did not have the power to influence the government's decision. I'm not quite sure why Harry expects Charles to be any different.

Son of the monarch >>> grandson of monarch.
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Anonymous wrote:Buckingham palace issued a statement in response to the court ruling. It seems they are being assertive. Probably William’s doing.


I looked up the statement, it's very detached, brief and factual: 'All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion.'


The Meghan and Harry loving dummies can continue being stupid, but William seems capable of letting actual professionals do professional messaging. He’s a grown up on some level. His brother and Meghan aren’t and they never will be. They’re going to play act at life and parenting forever - Harry will piss and moan over estrangement, Meghan will pretend she’s personally boxing her gross sht in an octagonal jar, they’ll both delude themselves that they are rational and highly present parents.

Poor kids.


Idk, I think their life in CA actually sounds pretty amazing and dreamy. I'm sure the kids are just fine, as are all the kids who just live far from extended family because their parents moved abroad. It's not traumatic, just a little bit sad to not forge deeper bonds with cousins. What I don't get why they are going on and on about the UK stuff and bashing royals. It's ok to be estranged if they want that. What's not ok is to claim you don't want to be estranged while also repeatedly antagonizing family in the press. It just makes no sense. The security business also makes no sense because a discreet visit can be done, via private plane and with bodyguards as long as they are not armed. People like David Beckham, Elton John and other mega celebrities manage just fine.


They live in a tiny town of under 9,000 people. Even the greater Santa Barbara area is relatively small. Southern Santa Barbara County where Santa Barbara, Montecito, UCSB area, Carpinteria is only 200,000 people. The private schools are really small in the SB area. And Montecito has twice the number of senior residents as the US. It seems like a really lonely life compared to if they lived in England surrounded by extended family AND childhood/school friends who you know aren't going to sell you out to the paparazzi. These relations have estates they could visit and retain privacy.

Their lives now are a life of having no grandparents, aunts, uncles, or cousins on either side. They don't have any longterm family friends. Who do they list on their school emergency pick up cards? Nannies?

That family in England has paparazzi on speed dial. Harry wasn’t even protected from the press during his school years in Eton.
The extended family was not there for him when his mother passed away, his grandfather demanded he walk behind his mother’s coffin

William lost the same mother. William did the same walk.
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Anonymous wrote:Buckingham palace issued a statement in response to the court ruling. It seems they are being assertive. Probably William’s doing.


I looked up the statement, it's very detached, brief and factual: 'All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion.'


The Meghan and Harry loving dummies can continue being stupid, but William seems capable of letting actual professionals do professional messaging. He’s a grown up on some level. His brother and Meghan aren’t and they never will be. They’re going to play act at life and parenting forever - Harry will piss and moan over estrangement, Meghan will pretend she’s personally boxing her gross sht in an octagonal jar, they’ll both delude themselves that they are rational and highly present parents.

Poor kids.


Idk, I think their life in CA actually sounds pretty amazing and dreamy. I'm sure the kids are just fine, as are all the kids who just live far from extended family because their parents moved abroad. It's not traumatic, just a little bit sad to not forge deeper bonds with cousins. What I don't get why they are going on and on about the UK stuff and bashing royals. It's ok to be estranged if they want that. What's not ok is to claim you don't want to be estranged while also repeatedly antagonizing family in the press. It just makes no sense. The security business also makes no sense because a discreet visit can be done, via private plane and with bodyguards as long as they are not armed. People like David Beckham, Elton John and other mega celebrities manage just fine.


They live in a tiny town of under 9,000 people. Even the greater Santa Barbara area is relatively small. Southern Santa Barbara County where Santa Barbara, Montecito, UCSB area, Carpinteria is only 200,000 people. The private schools are really small in the SB area. And Montecito has twice the number of senior residents as the US. It seems like a really lonely life compared to if they lived in England surrounded by extended family AND childhood/school friends who you know aren't going to sell you out to the paparazzi. These relations have estates they could visit and retain privacy.

Their lives now are a life of having no grandparents, aunts, uncles, or cousins on either side. They don't have any longterm family friends. Who do they list on their school emergency pick up cards? Nannies?

That family in England has paparazzi on speed dial. Harry wasn’t even protected from the press during his school years in Eton.
The extended family was not there for him when his mother passed away, his grandfather demanded he walk behind his mother’s coffin

William lost the same mother. William did the same walk.


This is the only argument any adult needs to hear. But Harry and Meghan’s fans are incredibly stupid and dishonest. Unlike Ms Runny Spread, I don’t like monarchs and their kids, but if I had to save one, it would be the individual who had enough dignity to not sit for repeated printed and televised whinefests about how hard his life is. I also have the intelligence to see a woman claiming she disdains titles and the practices surrounding them, while behaving as Meghan does, as the fake tacky drip she is.

Regarding finances - I would suspect the Markles’s outlay is far higher than 3 million/yr, and that because they are both spoiled silly middle-aged asses who can’t change, neither has ever lived within a real budget. Meghan’s heart-attack struck abused father supported her financially essentially entirely until marriage, just like Harry’s cancer-struck father; she was single relatively briefly after divorce. Meghan repeatedly put up paeans to her daddy as an adult for financial and other support - just as Harry repeatedly and publicly said William and Catherine encouraged him to get therapy well before he met Meghan. Real talk, Meghan has drafted off of men her entire waking life, and Harry was the individual most benefited by the press his whole life. Harry has had multiple documented incidents of racism, of academic fraud, of stolen valor in terms of service (“bunker Harry.”) Harry is an angry intellectually damaged drug-addled shithead, less useful than an abandoned pile of dog crap on a sidewalk. Royal assistants devised Invictus, and he has drained every charity for personal travel and hotel costs since his brave freedom flight. He and his darling are the biggest fakes on the public stage, and they’re a perfect match.

Harry pissing himself before cameras and trying again to take from UK taxpayers while giving absolute nothing in return is beneath everyone’s dignity excepting him and his absurd helpmeet. Their marriage would be hell for any thinking person. The UK can always dump the monarchy by referendum or revolution. For now, the population is somewhat supportive. Were it Harry sitting on a throne, things would not be so, let’s get real.

Oh on money and With Love - I will always assert that she didn’t have the show there because her kitchen isn’t as updated as Goop’s. No, it would not take a crew of 80 to watch her struggle to fill a jar with skin-burning bath salts. Come on. Meghan is the exact kind of fake who would rather online shop for Hermes tat than spend on a contractor or test a recipe or parent her kids.
Anonymous
Phew, let it all out, PP!

But you have a Balcony Event to look forward to! They’ll be out there waving for VE Day! They, of course, being the good, true, proper royals. Then we can come back here and again talk about how it’s a shame that Harry can’t be part of the balcony waving!
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Anonymous wrote:Phew, let it all out, PP!

But you have a Balcony Event to look forward to! They’ll be out there waving for VE Day! They, of course, being the good, true, proper royals. Then we can come back here and again talk about how it’s a shame that Harry can’t be part of the balcony waving!


Unlike your fellow twits, I don’t support monarchy. How modern and revolutionary did you think it was when the current king walked your bridge-burning shero down the aisle, sweetie?

Why do the pube-haired Harry and his lying wife object only to the privilege they don’t have, rather than the privilege they enjoy?
Anonymous
This is a good distillation IMO of the dynamic. Explains the use of ciphers and other sad attachment to royal stuff —

“His father and William do not want to see him because they cannot let down their guard with him--he blabs everything they say to him, and of course he would do so again. He is addicted to the attention. He loves his privileges, but like Andrew and Margaret before him he has trouble accepting he benefits from being in a system based on primogeniture when he was not the first-born. No one is going to advance him to the throne even if he thinks he is smarter and more deserving than William--that's not how his system works. If he wants to be judged on his merits entirely, then he needs to leave the royal system entirely. He and Meghan are still unwilling to do that--they still want to be called "Your Royal Highness" and be bowed before. If he wants any chance of reconciliation with his brother and father, he's got to shut his big mouth.

And he does not get special protection for doing "service" from the UK establishment because he does not get to decide on his own what his "service" is--if he wants them to consider his service, he has to do what the Palace asks him to do. He never seems willing to accept the plain fact that insofar as he matters to anyone it is because he is the son of the king and the brother of the Prince of Wales. He gets money and benefits from that position, but he does not get to be more important than they are.“
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Anonymous wrote:So in the written statement Harry put out he says “the Royal Household remain his sole representative on RAVEC” that made security call. So does that translate to my dad didn’t ask for Harry’s security like Harry wanted him to? If so, how is anyone getting an ask for reconciliation? Isn’t this a public statement to say my dad (or William) is the bad one? Or what does the quote mean?


I read it had placing the blame squarely on the RF (dad or William or another family member). He also said he asked Charles to step aside so that the professionals can do their job. I interpreted this as meaning possibly the RF were the roadblocks to getting the green light. Either way, he is putting blame on his family.


It doesn't even make any sense. Before Charles became King, Queen Elizabeth's Private Secretary Sir Edward Young wrote a letter on her and the BRF's behalf to RAVEC telling them it was the family's wish that Harry and Meghan kept their security. This letter was revealed in court documents. Even then, it didn't matter. RAVEC did their review and decided they weren't going to take that under advisement and that the threat level did not rise to the amount that would be needed for this type of security. Since the UK is a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute monarchy, the Queen did not have the power to influence the government's decision. I'm not quite sure why Harry expects Charles to be any different.

Son of the monarch >>> grandson of monarch.


No. Not at all. When Queen Elizabeth was monarch, her children, excluding the heir, did not receive 24/7 security.
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Anonymous wrote:Is he trying to ensure a bigger chunk of inheritance, to look good to his audience or may be missing his Pa?

He went from having a large boisterous family including aunts, uncles, cousins and life-long friends to having everyone cut off cold turkey. His children don’t have any contact with an entire side of their family. That’s got to hurt. Their only friends now seem to be celebrities and people who are being paid to be nice to them.


That happens to a lot of immigrants or even people who move to different states for work and can't afford flights for whole family to visit every year.


No most immigrants do not cut off their families. That's a very American thing. In the age of free video calls etc most families are pretty close and many travel (especially if they are affluent and doesn't need to be anywhere close to MM level). Feeling like you're part of a bigger fabric is very important to many people.
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Anonymous wrote:Buckingham palace issued a statement in response to the court ruling. It seems they are being assertive. Probably William’s doing.


I looked up the statement, it's very detached, brief and factual: 'All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion.'


The Meghan and Harry loving dummies can continue being stupid, but William seems capable of letting actual professionals do professional messaging. He’s a grown up on some level. His brother and Meghan aren’t and they never will be. They’re going to play act at life and parenting forever - Harry will piss and moan over estrangement, Meghan will pretend she’s personally boxing her gross sht in an octagonal jar, they’ll both delude themselves that they are rational and highly present parents.

Poor kids.


Idk, I think their life in CA actually sounds pretty amazing and dreamy. I'm sure the kids are just fine, as are all the kids who just live far from extended family because their parents moved abroad. It's not traumatic, just a little bit sad to not forge deeper bonds with cousins. What I don't get why they are going on and on about the UK stuff and bashing royals. It's ok to be estranged if they want that. What's not ok is to claim you don't want to be estranged while also repeatedly antagonizing family in the press. It just makes no sense. The security business also makes no sense because a discreet visit can be done, via private plane and with bodyguards as long as they are not armed. People like David Beckham, Elton John and other mega celebrities manage just fine.


They live in a tiny town of under 9,000 people. Even the greater Santa Barbara area is relatively small. Southern Santa Barbara County where Santa Barbara, Montecito, UCSB area, Carpinteria is only 200,000 people. The private schools are really small in the SB area. And Montecito has twice the number of senior residents as the US. It seems like a really lonely life compared to if they lived in England surrounded by extended family AND childhood/school friends who you know aren't going to sell you out to the paparazzi. These relations have estates they could visit and retain privacy.

Their lives now are a life of having no grandparents, aunts, uncles, or cousins on either side. They don't have any longterm family friends. Who do they list on their school emergency pick up cards? Nannies?

That family in England has paparazzi on speed dial. Harry wasn’t even protected from the press during his school years in Eton.
The extended family was not there for him when his mother passed away, his grandfather demanded he walk behind his mother’s coffin

William lost the same mother. William did the same walk.


William has also been coddled very differently because he was the heir. Read Harry’s book. While I rolled my eyes through a lot of it, Harry was younger, emotionally fragile, and basically left to his own devices with a father who himself isn’t really good at the parenting thing or making emotional connections. Charles was still living through his own mommy and daddy issues. None of these people are emotionally healthy. Also, i genuinely believe that it is about security. On this issue, Harry will never be anything other than that 12 year old whose life was turned upside down in an instant. He will never have anything other than a knee jerk reaction to this issue. Harry has a lot of similarities to his mother who was not the smartest or emotionally stable herself. She didn’t make it in the BRF, and neither is Harry. It’s not about grift and money.
Anonymous
The fact he did this interview right after he lost and clearly was pissed says it all. He has no self control and will never ever change. Everyone knows to sleep on anger and then respond. Even my teenager.

And it shows he will throw his brother and father under the bus at a moments notice if he doesn’t get his way.

He is beyond hope. Good riddance
Anonymous
Everyone knows Diana turned down security provided by the Monarch and chose her private security. Right?
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