Is "sugar" a thing in DMV upper class?

[Anonymous]

If you are a well off man, there is nothing more expensive than marriage with a stay at home wife. The divorce will cost millions!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on the dating apps and a couple times a year match with a woman who straight up comes out and said she is only there for a sugar relationship.

Not my thing, so I wish them well and keep it moving. But the 2-3 times that rates have been explicitly mentioned in the opening salvo, they are extremely affordable and not much more expensive than upper middle class dating.

I will also say that the younger women I match with and date the old fashioned way, tend to be more attractive than those chasing cash.

In the end, it's not much more expensive than traditional dating. You are right about that.

[Anonymous]

That sounds amazing!

It seems like the quality of the women is much higher on Seeking than you can get normally as a wealthy 50 year old guy. And these girls are well educated and surprisingly normal.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

A 50 y/o man f***ing an 18 year old is a predator.
I can't believe this dude is giving himself a pat on the back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A 50 y/o man f***ing an 18 year old is a predator.
I can't believe this dude is giving himself a pat on the back.

Also, just paying someone for sex isn't sugaring. That's just prostituting.

[Anonymous]

In the eyes of the law, no.

An 18 year old can join the army and get killed in a stupid war. If they have the agency to do that, I believe they have the agency to engage in consensual sex. Beth thing is the law is on my side.

Anonymous wrote:A 50 y/o man f***ing an 18 year old is a predator.
I can't believe this dude is giving himself a pat on the back.

[Anonymous]

* Best thing

[Anonymous]

i'm the guy you are responding to. "seeking" in general, just like tinder, is 90% full of garbage or incompatible matches. it takes a lot of work to find a good match and a ton more patience to find a great match.

Anonymous wrote:That sounds amazing!

It seems like the quality of the women is much higher on Seeking than you can get normally as a wealthy 50 year old guy. And these girls are well educated and surprisingly normal.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

just to to clarify i'm not patting myself on the back, i'm patting the concept of "sugar" on the back. something that has been around since the beginning of time

and yes, agreed the 18yr old was a mistake. my original post even started with how "cringe" that whole episode was. lesson learned. i focus on late 20s-mid30s now and as a late 40s yr old that seems to be my sweet spot.

Anonymous wrote:A 50 y/o man f***ing an 18 year old is a predator.
I can't believe this dude is giving himself a pat on the back.

[Anonymous]

I'm surprised by how normal many of the women are that I have met on Seeking...great looking, nice, well educated, good manners etc. The one commonality I have found is they are stressed financially.

Anonymous wrote:i'm the guy you are responding to. "seeking" in general, just like tinder, is 90% full of garbage or incompatible matches. it takes a lot of work to find a good match and a ton more patience to find a great match.

Anonymous wrote:That sounds amazing!

It seems like the quality of the women is much higher on Seeking than you can get normally as a wealthy 50 year old guy. And these girls are well educated and surprisingly normal.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by how normal many of the women are that I have met on Seeking...great looking, nice, well educated, good manners etc. The one commonality I have found is they are stressed financially.

Anonymous wrote:i'm the guy you are responding to. "seeking" in general, just like tinder, is 90% full of garbage or incompatible matches. it takes a lot of work to find a good match and a ton more patience to find a great match.

Anonymous wrote:That sounds amazing!

It seems like the quality of the women is much higher on Seeking than you can get normally as a wealthy 50 year old guy. And these girls are well educated and surprisingly normal.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈

What's the market rate? Do you pay them by the date, and how much?

[Anonymous]

seeking in DC covers a wide range of type of people. Ofc the cash strapped college girls, low level retail job single moms, girls with no jobs, bottle service or waitress types ... But with DMV being so expensive, means lots of "normal, well educated, well mannered" girls are to be found. in addition to my banker minx (she is not entry level teller, she is private banking, has her own office etc) I've met through seeking (all confirmed with a little bit of internet / linkedin sleuthing)

Deloitte Sr. manager
WETA production manager
a number of DC/NoVA non-profit employees (typically highly educated masters degree, low pay, very left leaning and sex positive)
and a couple of girls that worked for DOD contractors like CACI etc. if they are working for DOD they must be vetted/background checked and it boggles my mind they put themselves out there on a shady site like seeking ... but just goes to show there are tons of normal women sugaring too

to the women who liken sugaring to prostituation. I'd say not so. maybe similar, but not the same. on sugar dates I get rejected too. a lot. because if there is no base/minimal attraction the sugar baby isn't going to sleep with you not matter how much money you offer. with escorts, as long as you pay for "service" and pass the safety screening she will have sex with you. That's what make sugaring so much fun. do you think an escort/prostitute who had no interest/attraction/postivie feelings towards me would spend 8-12hr a day having sex with me? and then text me days later with cute reminders of our time together? lol I couldn't get my ex-wifey to do that after the first couple years of marriage ..

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by how normal many of the women are that I have met on Seeking...great looking, nice, well educated, good manners etc. The one commonality I have found is they are stressed financially.

Anonymous wrote:i'm the guy you are responding to. "seeking" in general, just like tinder, is 90% full of garbage or incompatible matches. it takes a lot of work to find a good match and a ton more patience to find a great match.

Anonymous wrote:That sounds amazing!

It seems like the quality of the women is much higher on Seeking than you can get normally as a wealthy 50 year old guy. And these girls are well educated and surprisingly normal.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: do you think an escort/prostitute who had no interest/attraction/postivie feelings towards me would spend 8-12hr a day having sex with me? and then text me days later with cute reminders of our time together? lol I couldn't get my ex-wifey to do that after the first couple years of marriage ..

I've got no issue with you having fun, but don't act like if the "sugar" was spending as much time with you as your wife did, she'd be sending you cute texts. Familiarity breeds contempt. You think that chick would be into you if she had to see you all of the time and emitting sounds?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: do you think an escort/prostitute who had no interest/attraction/postivie feelings towards me would spend 8-12hr a day having sex with me? and then text me days later with cute reminders of our time together? lol I couldn't get my ex-wifey to do that after the first couple years of marriage ..

I've got no issue with you having fun, but don't act like if the "sugar" was spending as much time with you as your wife did, she'd be sending you cute texts. Familiarity breeds contempt. You think that chick would be into you if she had to see you all of the time and emitting sounds?

All she sees are $$ signs. It's cute to think that PP thinks she's actually into him though. I bet he thinks strippers like him too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I'd say half my friends (I'm male, in my 40s) do this, and that's just the ones who admit to it. We're all in the higher income level (entrepreneurs, finance, lawyers).

Are you one of them?

Where did you meet these friends? College? Grow up together? At work? I'm wondering what i the common denominator. I'm also in my 40s and higher income level (lawyers) and I don't know anyone doing this.
And what are the demographics of their wives? Equivalent education and income level to your friends? I just can't imagine in my social circles the wives not noticing a substantial financial outlay.

Some I've know for years, some more recent. Eveyone in my circle is college educated and usually a masters. Wives tend to be career types also.

When you have a high HHI, no one is noticing $1-2k every month. Besides, you usually have a bunch of different accounts and credit cards at that level. No one has time to dig through all that.

$1-2k a month? That’s it?!?

Remember college girls aren't doing it for a living. Your typical GW student (GW is #1 in the DC area in terms of % of undergrads who do this) has all her tuition and room and board covered by her parents. This is fun money to buy fancy clothes, and also just fun to go out with someone mature and wealthy.

Umm just get a real job, then. You can’t find a job that will pay you $250 a week? Willing to lose your dignity and have sex with an old guy... eww. I was poor in college and worked my way through an Ivy. No way would I consider $1-2k a month to have sex with a guy in his 40s. No one I knew would have done it either. Just yuck.

NP. When I was in college I totally would've gone for an arrangement like this for ~$2k a month. Different people look at it differently but to me, I don't think there's anything undignified about the casual sex & it's decent money for something I would've found less obnoxious than working a more traditional job. Better/fewer hours and more enjoyable. Definitely not for everyone though.

Maybe if the guy is not married but why go for an old married guy that likely has a wife and kids? Just for a little money?

Maybe they think it’ll be reassurance that he won’t expose her if they ever run into each other later?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of sugaring in DMV!

For the men who can afford it, they get to have sex with a hot woman and not have to put in the time or effort to woo them and date them. There's not pressure about serious commitment and can extricate oneself at will. Of course, downside would be potential scam artists, extortion, and risk of STIs from someone who is akin to a prostitute.

For the women, money is good and a lot less effort than working a regular job. Of course, downside is having to have sex with men you are not attracted to and obliging on things on normally wouldn't want to do.

All the sugarbabies I've known had full-time jobs. Usual profile is they were in their 20's, recently out of college, working entry-level professional jobs, and were looking for some excitement in their life along with earning some $$.

Guys their age can't afford to take them to nice restaurants, and aren't as interesting to talk to as older men.

There’s your answer - this doesn’t describe the typical UC experience, in which you’re living large right after college, going to the best restaurants, traveling, coming up with an exciting new concept for a company, dreaming about the future, head still filled with all the knowledge and ideas from college. The probability that I would’ve found a much older man who I found way more interesting than my peers AND not completely insufferable to be around / with too much unacceptable baggage was pretty much zero at that age. And that’s for regular dating purposes, nevermind the self-selecting pool of wannabe SDs.