Is "sugar" a thing in DMV upper class?

[Anonymous]

There are so many hot broke women. Go to Miami. The town is full of them looking for sugar daddies.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an average looking 50 year old guy with big money, it's the easiest way to "date" a 30 year old 9.


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Anonymous wrote:I was a SD once when I was single - fun. Probably won’t do it again though given the cost and risks. I’m wealthy enough to technically afford it but it’s still a lot of money. If I was so wealthy that it’s like buying coffee then maybe I’d do it again.

The appeal for me was being able to get the experience of dating women out of my league who seem like “normal” chicks. Most SB’s are a different breed from the professionals and are simply above average looking girls with regular lives.

But why not just date them? I went on dates with older men sometimes when I was young and hot, just for fun. And I guess they paid for dinner usually. And I guess I had to be attracted to them. But if you’re a successful, single guy that’s usually attractive enough. This is DC, people like hearing about cool jobs.

He’s probably really ugly if he calls himself “good looking”. Women who are attractive usually come from higher socio-economic background, and already have means to maintain themselves. When I was 30 and good looking with own money I only dated attractive older men, and not older than 15 years from my own age

[Anonymous]

A prior poster wrote:

Also stay away from the following for relationships:
Nurses
Radiologists
Dental hygienist
…anyone who ears scrubs to work honestly. If they wear scrubs and Apple Watch and some running shoes to work they aren’t wifey material
Cops
First responders
SAHMs
Married women

Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A prior poster wrote:

Also stay away from the following for relationships:
Nurses
Radiologists
Dental hygienist
…anyone who ears scrubs to work honestly. If they wear scrubs and Apple Watch and some running shoes to work they aren’t wifey material
Cops
First responders
SAHMs
Married women

Why?

Nurses cheat usually. Other women in those career fields have a bad name with most guys because they also more likely to cheat. Ashy Madison did a pool a while back and I guess a lot do the female respondents who cheated were nurses and doctors

Cops and first responders are the same.

SAHMs are usually broke or living if their ex…red flag.

Married women - have to say this is obvious but nowadays I guess it has to be said. Dating married women is not a good thing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, you got me to click. I did because I was cooking this morning and ended up with an extra spoonful of granulated sugar that I didn't want to put back into the bin, because it might have a tiny bit of flour in it. I just popped that heaping teaspoon into my mouth. Wow. So delicious. Such a fun childhood memory.

I absolutely recommend it if you haven't done it for a while.

As to your topic; I have never known anyone involved in such an arrangement. No one I associate with has the money to do it. I assume it is a rich person/TV thing.

I thought it was about Domino sugar too. Disappointed.

I thought it was going to be about whether rich people in DC call their partners the nickname, “sugar.” Sounds like something an old timey Southern rich man would do.

Same. Our neighbor used to call one of our kids “sugar.” They were very close, and the neighbor would babysit a lot.

[Anonymous]

Radiologists in particular?

[Anonymous]

The question is, how common is it for wealthy men in the DMV to have a sugar baby? It seems better than to be stuck in a sexless marriage.

Anonymous wrote:How do you sort through all of the potential scammers on Seeking. Do most of these women look as good as they do in their photos?


quote=Anonymous]I’m divorced two years, almost 50 and have been using seeking the most popular sugar site since my divorce. I have two little kids share 50/50 with mom so mainly I have no time or emotional energy for normal dating. That plus an average looking divorced single dad 50 don’t have much success on OLD apps. I just don’t have time to socialize and find dates the normal way as I did 20-30yrs ago. I’ve had many sugarships, but I’m posting the memorable ones below. Sugaring is definitely a thing and quite prevalent here in DMV. I live in Arlington FYI.

1. Let’s call her Tina the one that got away. 26, blonde, only fans soft core model and DC club bottle service girl. We met for drinks in Tyson’s and immediately hit it off. She was fun beautiful and had such a bubbling personality. Sex was great. I could tell she was really into me (guys she dated in past all kinda had same look as me) We dated for about 3mo she would drive to meet me from Hagerstown 1-2 times a week. $400 per meet. Usually at my place drinking and sex. She cancelled a date and I was so dumb to end things with her over it. She was a no drama perfect sugar baby. I was new to sugar and didn’t appreciate a good thing I had because of so many options

2. Let’s call her Lily, the girl who broke my heart. This one is kind of cringe in so many ways. She was 18 and I wasn’t sure about it. Pale skin, black hair beauty who was unbelievably intelligent. Living alone since 15 her life was a complete mess. We met for lunch and it was meh. But we kept in touch. Found out she tried to kill herself and ended up in ER. She didn’t seem to have any friends or family nearby after she came home from ER a few days later I invited her over just so she could have someone to talk to, and eat! She hadn’t eaten for days. We talked till 3am and I was sure I’m not getting into any arrangement with her. But I felt so sorry for her a girl so smart not in school with no prospects for future. Broken home, raised by foster parents, clearly the most traumatic childhood of anyone I knew. But since she was so smart she had turned herself into a classy well spoken young girl not trashy at all as would be expected. We stayed in touch. I really admired her independence and intelligence more than anything. Yeah she looked great but she was 18 lol! She did indicate she was interested in an arrangement but there wasn’t much sexual chemistry mostly I guess because of the age diff and we both feeling weird about it. She flew home a few weeks later and when she came back was sick for a week and after lots of text back and forth I called her and told her I’m picking her up and taking her to ER. Spent the day with her in the hospital. Bought her groceries when I dropped her home. Couple weeks later we met for lunch in Tyson’s. She looked nice. Went back to my place to listen to music and chill. Having been talking for weeks were getting friendly by now and she told me how much she appreciated me taking care of her at ER etc. She excused herself. Came back in a skimpy white lingerie.. I’ll leave the rest to your imagination but it was amazing and so our arrangement started. I was giving her 5k a month she’d meet up 2-3 times a week stay over sometimes. We connected. Bonded. She would stay over for hours talking about her life and I kept feeling more and more “caring” towards her. But her intense childhood and family trauma meant there was an unbelievable amount of drama. And instead of being a sugar daddy her age meant I kept having “dad” type feelings for her. I wanted to her her on therapy to heal. It was weird And emotions all over the place. Months in I hear ” I love you “ and stupid me (I should have known better) said it back. A month later everything ended. The end was horrid. She moved back home. It hurt a lot. I decided no more exclusive arrangements for me.

3. Francesca the former porn star. She was mid late 20s now but still looked as great as in her younger porn days. She is smart, has a college degree and comes across as a normal cute gnd type unless you try to reverse image search (lol) She was extremely submissive in all ways. Sex was super as expected from a former porn star. But she was such a cool chill person. We would hang out a lot, watch movies go out to eat. No drama. Did I say great sex? I’d watch her old vids and tell her I went to do that and she was more than game! Every time! Perfect communication and logistics too. She had a good head on her shoulders. I’d pay 500 per meet and I guess she liked me enough and would stay overnight and even weekends never asking for more $ than we agreed to. I guess she found a rich SD who locked her into an exclusive thing. I’d love to meet her again any time ..

4. Let’s call her Anastasia the Princess. About 30, blonde divorced with no kids. Her ex hubby took care of her financially so she never gained any workplace skills but got used to a lux life. She had limited options to sugaring but the best part she seems really into me. I see her 2-4 times a month. $500 a meet. But since she is so normal and the kind of person I’d associate with in real life we go out lots to eat, hang out at park to hike etc. I don’t offer any $ for these she is the one calling and texting me to hang out. Like I said I feel like she might have a bit of crush on me but I don’t take advantage. If we meet to have sex I give her what I promised.

5. Let’s call her Laila. Could have met her on bumble she is 40/41 divorced Persian single mom with two little kids. Beautiful but has had a lot of work done. Has a grad degree from John Hopkins and professional job. But does this to get extra luxuries she couldn’t afford after her divorce. If you know these Persian girls they are high maintenance.. I paid her 600 and sex was great she was really into it. It’s like she can play out her porn star fantasies that she couldn’t with her ex husband .. But after a while I felt like we didn’t have much of a connection apart from sex (she wanted things discrete. Meet at hotel. I prefer more normal kind of arrangements doing other things besides that too) also since I match with 40yr plus single moms on OLD I felt it wasn’t as much of a novelty to be paying to have sex with her. Plus her kids and my kids meant logistics sucked.

6. Let’s call this one Raisa the Russia-Turkish minx. Mid 30s very classy elegant beautiful face and body. works a premier banker for a large bank dealing with high net worth guys. I guess that’s how she got into this. Her 80-100k bank job catering to multi millionaires all day must have created some luxxx cravings. Anyway we started off taking kinky things like bdsm and she was game (and it’s all new to me) so we started to exploring with some fun messing around like in the shades of grey movies lol. Because of her 9-5/mon to Friday job we don’t meet as much but I pay 700 a meet. Highest I’ve paid but she is a banker and tough negotiator. No regrets though. Yesterday we had 7hrs of sex. I kid you not. After 4hrs she looks at me and says how do I look after 4hr of sex. I say: hungry. So we go out for a quick bite. Come back for 3 more hours of sex. Somehow she keeps me going at my age. It’s her kissing that does it for me. And how she looks at me. Unlike Anastasia above I’m not sure if she is really into me or just a sex goddess who knows how to make the man feel like a sex god lol.

There have been plenty of forgetful meetings too. But overall it’s been good to great. I never did this while married though I hear most of the legit sugar daddies are married. But I definitely recommend it to any single 40+ guys who have extra $ to spare. It’s nothing like pros/escort/ick and there are genuine connections and chemistry coming out of many of these relationships. Not to mention the financial help they get from it

In hindsight my ex wife was my biggest sugar baby. When we met she just finished grad school and we decided she didn’t need to work full time as I made very high income. In 15yrs of marriage I brought in about 90-95% of HHI and we both liked it that way. I do come from a traditional family background and this is the norm in my circle. So helping these girls out is nothing out of the ordinary for me.

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Anonymous wrote:My h worked in the hill in the 90’s and yes being a sugar daddy and paying for a girlfriend’s apartment was common.

Yep. Some of us remember the Washingtonienne scandal. Everybody knew it happened all the time.

[Anonymous]

I just got propositioned by a guy in a green van at the Wegmans. Would that count? (And no I did not take him up on it)

[Anonymous]

In economics they say any voluntary transaction is of mutual benefit to both parties. These women have agency!

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe these low prices. I was young and supported by my parents and I even LIKED going out with older men but if someone was going to pay me for sex, it would have taken a lot more than $1-2k. The men doing this stuff are universally gross. They’re paying women who really need the money for sex with some delusion about how they’re all rich college students. Rich college students do not have sex for $1k/month.

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They have agency. Give me a break.
at 18 you can get your self killed by serving in the military.

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Subject: Re:Is "sugar" a thing in DMV upper class? [Up]
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male 40s high income, 12yrs married, two kids. not much marital sex but otherwise nice marriage. i use sugar to satisfy a need and ease the resentment at home. i can be a good husband while getting my needs met in a NSA arrangement that has little chance of getting ugly (no real emotional entanglements) .. DW and I haven't discussed this but I think she may suspect this because she knows I have always been as horny as fkc at the same time I don't think we are technically DADT either. sugar is also much safer and less "eww" than going for the real pros (hookers, happy ending massages etc) .... plus in the DC area the sugar babies are generally collage girls (educated) and "interesting" outside of the few mins of sex.

If you really believe this is as justified as you try to pretend, you would not rationalize so much. The eww factor of this is off the charts. Apart from the infidelity/lying/diverting family funds, you are taking advantage of an unbalanced power dynamic that you pointed out in your post - these are college students! They are not independent adults with fully formed brains and the ability to really appreciate the arrangement they are in. I posted up thread that my DD’s friend - who is a smart college sophomore at a local university- is a sugar baby. I’m sure she doesn’t tell her sugar daddies that her parents pay her tuition and support her. She has a number of mental health issues and I suspect is attracted to the drama of the situation. Her friends are concerned and have tried to get her to put an end to it, with no luck yet. Men like you are doing a lot of damage. Think about whether you would want your DD in the same situation.

[Anonymous]

If you really believe this is as justified as you try to pretend, you would not rationalize so much. The eww factor of this is off the charts. Apart from the infidelity/lying/diverting family funds, you are taking advantage of an unbalanced power dynamic that you pointed out in your post - these are college students! They are not independent adults with fully formed brains and the ability to really appreciate the arrangement they are in. I posted up thread that my DD’s friend - who is a smart college sophomore at a local university- is a sugar baby. I’m sure she doesn’t tell her sugar daddies that her parents pay her tuition and support her. She has a number of mental health issues and I suspect is attracted to the drama of the situation. Her friends are concerned and have tried to get her to put an end to it, with no luck yet. Men like you are doing a lot of damage. Think about whether you would want your DD in the same situation.

+1. Guy tries to rationalize that he is just a run of the mill, cheating scumbag. He won't admit it here but he gets off on the power differential. So, so gross.

[Anonymous]

I’m on the dating apps and a couple times a year match with a woman who straight up comes out and said she is only there for a sugar relationship.

Not my thing, so I wish them well and keep it moving. But the 2-3 times that rates have been explicitly mentioned in the opening salvo, they are extremely affordable and not much more expensive than upper middle class dating.

I will also say that the younger women I match with and date the old fashioned way, tend to be more attractive than those chasing cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m on the dating apps and a couple times a year match with a woman who straight up comes out and said she is only there for a sugar relationship.

Not my thing, so I wish them well and keep it moving. But the 2-3 times that rates have been explicitly mentioned in the opening salvo, they are extremely affordable and not much more expensive than upper middle class dating.

I will also say that the younger women I match with and date the old fashioned way, tend to be more attractive than those chasing cash.

In the end, it's not much more expensive than traditional dating. You are right about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A prior poster wrote:

Also stay away from the following for relationships:
Nurses
Radiologists
Dental hygienist
…anyone who ears scrubs to work honestly. If they wear scrubs and Apple Watch and some running shoes to work they aren’t wifey material
Cops
First responders
SAHMs
Married women

Why?

Nurses cheat usually. Other women in those career fields have a bad name with most guys because they also more likely to cheat. Ashy Madison did a pool a while back and I guess a lot do the female respondents who cheated were nurses and doctors

Cops and first responders are the same.

SAHMs are usually broke or living if their ex…red flag.

Married women - have to say this is obvious but nowadays I guess it has to be said. Dating married women is not a good thing

People who work in hospitals and in settings like first responders cheat a lot (with their coworkers usually). They have high stress jobs and spend a lot of time together with their coworkers, including “off” hours (being away on shifts also means it’s easy to get away with cheating). Also a lot of people who take these jobs are kind of thrill chaser types.

[Anonymous]

I love how this thread doesn’t die. To the middle aged men of DCUM. Do it!

I’m divorced and never went outside my marriage but the post divorce dating market for almost 50yr old with young kids is ugh. Sugar is the best thing since sliced bread. if you have extra cash give it a go

Sugar and seeking and the blue pill have given me the best sex of my life. I’m the guy who posted about my experiences in this thread a few weeks ago. I met up with my Turk/slavic/minx banker baby last weekend again. 12hours of hot sex. Kinky. Role play. Experimental. Pushing boundaries. She brought a ton of outfits she modeled for me to enjoy. We had a quick room service dinner that we fed each other but were basically naked and intertwined for the whole of Saturday till like 2am 😈😈😈