NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

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Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

Dude. No. A white person using it is NEVER ok.

Just because racism can still exist without people using the word, doesn’t mean it’s ok to use the word.

Oy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of!

DP. So all the white people buying rap and rap concert tickets - making rap artists rich beyond belief - should stop, right? Because all those white people rapping along must be racist, right?

WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FOR THE RAP “ARTISTS” THEMSELVES??

[Anonymous]

Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

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Anonymous wrote:So this girl made a TikTok at 15 saying “I can drive n—-!” And people really think she should be banned from high school, college, sports, and a job? You never said anything as a teen that you wouldn’t want to come back up years later?

She was imitating rap videos, not even saying anything hateful.

Exactly this.

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It’s an ugly word that I hope my kids never use. That said, she was 15. I truly wish we had video of everyone condemning her from when they were 15. Now wouldn’t that be awkward.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

Kids will make mistakes. This girl said it in a Snapchat message to a friend when she was 15. She wasn’t using it as a slur against another student. It’s hard to see how that should cancel her college admission four years later.

And frankly the next time someone tells me “cancel culture” is a figment of the right-wing’s imagination, I’m trotting out this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school a lot of people were complete assholes to me because I was gay. One “friend” outed me, others always used words like faggot and dyke. Some of them today post woke stuff all the time on social media.

I have evidence of some of these things in writing. But I’m not going to ruin their lives for it because I’m not an asshole, and they were kids.

This. Well said. My brother had a lot of these horrific experiences in high school too and in now see the “woke” postings by some of his tormentors. I still can’t stand them, but recognize that people do grow up and mature. Who we were as teens is not necessarily who we will be as adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

Was that really common knowledge in 2016? Do 15 year olds make mistakes, especially in what they think are private conversations over Snapchat? Is it that hard to imagine a young girl repeating language she hears in the music she listens to, especially a few years ago compared to today? She was not intending it to be a slur. Is it really something that should keep her from attending college?

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

Was that really common knowledge in 2016? Do 15 year olds make mistakes, especially in what they think are private conversations over Snapchat? Is it that hard to imagine a young girl repeating language she hears in the music she listens to, especially a few years ago compared to today? She was not intending it to be a slur. Is it really something that should keep her from attending college?

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Now white people can't sing songs. These new rules are hilarious. What about black people? Can they sing any song? What happens to you if you are mixed race? Should they also be destroyed?

[Anonymous]

The young man in this story doesn’t seem to recognize that while he did link the young women’s name to her racist behavior for eternity (or however long Google functions) his name is also now eternally linked to his own behavior and choices thanks to the NYT. I guess we all have to deal with the consequences of our decisions, but both of these young people will have a hard time escaping the choices they made at 15 and 18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The young man in this story doesn’t seem to recognize that while he did link the young women’s name to her racist behavior for eternity (or however long Google functions) his name is also now eternally linked to his own behavior and choices thanks to the NYT. I guess we all have to deal with the consequences of our decisions, but both of these young people will have a hard time escaping the choices they made at 15 and 18.

He’s going to have a much harder time. She casually used a racist word with no intent to hurt when she was 15 that wasn’t directed at any individual. He deliberately tried to take a specific classmate down and wreck her college plans when he was 18. I guess he can try to keep a lower profile, but if he has younger siblings still in public school their lives are going to be hell. If I were the parents, I’d seriously be looking to move to a different community for a fresh start.

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The girl who made the video should not have said what she said, and she didn’t deserve the consequences she was given. It was disproportionate to the “crime.” The offended boy should not have done what he did with the video. It was venomous and vindictive and the University of Tennessee was complicit. What a disgusting institution.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’ll note the incident happened in 2016.

But grown adults are sitting here in 2021 saying rap is to blame. STUPID. I teach kids. All the kids know if you’re white you better not sing the n word in a rap song. They KNOW this. She knew better when she did it but she gets a pass because she’s white and DCUM would rather blame scary black rappers .

So you’re defending rappers? You know, the people who denigrate women in their lyrics? Good to know.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Jimmy lives in a very nice house and has plenty of money for a phone and earrings. It may be quite a wake-up call for him when he finds out this NYT article has severely limited his future employment prospects. Oh well, guess it will send a message to the next kid who tries to ruin a classmate’s life by mining random social media posts for shame material. Maybe it was just bad parenting by the Galligans.

You all seem really invested in this kid’s life being over because he exposed a classmate for being racist. It’s kinda weird you’re more bothered by him exposing her racism than her doing it in the first place

Bothered by both, actually. Yet, there is a difference between a 15 yo that has since apologized and a smug 18 yo. Oh well. Not my kids. Not my problem.

She apologized BECAUSE he exposed her. She was never going to own up to that or reflect on the impact it had otherwise. She was pretending to be a BLM activist and he couldn’t stand the hypocrisy. Had he not reminded her of her own actions she never would have apologized. So, don’t give her too much praise.

You didn’t read the story, did you? She evolved and took a pro-BLM stand before he decided to expose her for a three-second video clip she’d recorded years earlier.

It’s telling that we call children “racists” when they casually use slang they’ve heard from rap artists and their black peers. What’s in their hearts doesn’t matter as much as whether they are adhering to the norms followed by woke adults. Ironically, if the parents had just prevented their kids from listening to rap music and sent her to a less diverse school with almost no black kids, her immature 15-year-old self would not have thought it was cool to record such a stupid clip. Many black kids use that language all the time and no one does a thing about it.

Our culture is sick, but not necessarily for the reason some assume. Ruining the life of random young adults for stupid things they did as tweens or while in their early teens is just one more performative display by people who don’t actually care about anything other than protecting their own asses and advancing their own agendas. I feel sorry for you if you favor imparting the message that young adults are disposable, so long as it’s arguably woke.

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