Rs are terminally out of touch with normal people

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I’m a normal person. I don’t. Give a flying F about what people do in their personal sex lives or who uses what bathroom or what they wear, it does not affect me in any way and I am not offended by it.

I just want healthcare and wages and costs under control. Just fix the economy and not in favor of the rich like it usually is.

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Target has now lost $10B in market cap and is trading at its lowest price in a year. I'm still curious what the alternative explanations for this would be, since all the normal people out there are ignoring this and stocking up on Satanic fashun.

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Anonymous wrote:Target has now lost $10B in market cap and is trading at its lowest price in a year. I'm still curious what the alternative explanations for this would be, since all the normal people out there are ignoring this and stocking up on Satanic fashun.

Sounds like a great time to buy shares.

[Anonymous]

In Europe and many public spaces have just bathrooms. Doesn’t matter who you are, you get your own bathroom. With a door and a toilet and sink. Perfectly safe for anyone. And most larger places have several of them. Problem solved and everyone is happier.

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Anonymous wrote:In Europe and many public spaces have just bathrooms. Doesn’t matter who you are, you get your own bathroom. With a door and a toilet and sink. Perfectly safe for anyone. And most larger places have several of them. Problem solved and everyone is happier.

That’s a reasonable solution.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

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I was first introduced to the politics of being queer when I lived in NYC in the early 2000’s. I grew up in the DC area and never considered myself homophonic, but was made a little uncomfortable with the overt sexuality displayed by my gay friends at that time. I began to learn more about the history and struggles that the community had faced (Stone Wall etc) and the purpose of their activism. I grew more comfortable around it and accepting of it.
That said…
It’s time for the community to leave that lifestyle at Fire Island and show a family oriented, 9-5 banking hours, rated G community at the parades rolling through Main Street USA.
The movement has come a long way and it’s time to adapt.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

Yes, and the problem with the TN bill is that is so vaguely worded that a drag queen performing in a club (where no one underage would be allowed) could still be prosecuted under this law.

And please stop with the "I'm in favor of both". Because republicans have done nothing to protect kids from guns.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for.

Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago:

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Then where are these bans, and what is stopping them from doing this? They can easily pass these bans in red states where republicans dominate the legislature. After all, if protecting kids is the number one priority, then this should be passed too.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Hollywood is the most guilty of glorifying gun violence which is obviously filled with liberals. Bill Maher did an excellent monologue about Hollywood's culture of gun violence.

https://youtu.be/Ebg2YnBj9II

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for.

Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago:

LOL, a weird protestor in London is not the own you think this is. Are you also in favor of bans that prohibit youth pastors and priests from being alone with children? Because the sexual abuse that has been inflicted by churches is far greater than anything a trans person has done.