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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter]https://twitter.com/papi_sierra/status/1662120368327348227?s=20[/twitter][/quote] Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others. [/quote] I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts. [/quote] I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe. [/quote] And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.[/quote] What does that video have to do with trans people? [/quote] You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate. [/quote] Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts. Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming." [/quote] DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc. [/quote] That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements. I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children. Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand. [/quote] I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win. [/quote] DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise. If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical. [/quote] I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for. Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago: [twitter]https://twitter.com/wingsscotland/status/1663079791560474625[/twitter] [/quote] LOL, a weird protestor in London is not the own you think this is. Are you also in favor of bans that prohibit youth pastors and priests from being alone with children? Because the sexual abuse that has been inflicted by churches is far greater than anything a trans person has done. [/quote]
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