Teen possibly abducted from party in CA

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Anonymous wrote:The mom had a phone conversation with her drunk daughter around 11:30pm and said “wake me up when you get home”?????? Not I’m coming to get you. Not I’ll call an Uber. Knew she was at a party and let her drive home???? Wow just wow.

That doesn’t pass the smell test. I question if that conversation took place as she described it. I don’t know any mother who goes to sleep when their 16 year old daughter is at some huge party — which she drove to. Not to mention the daughter would have clearly been drunk on that phone call, if she was visibly drunk at 12-12:30, per female friend who refused to ride with her.

I read that it was a text from daughter to mother? So harder to tell if she was drunk.

If your 16 year old daughter were 10 miles away in a rural area at a party with 200 to 300 unsupervised kids drinking and using drugs, would you just go to sleep hoping she would drive home safely? Where are the responsible adults?? Things just aren't adding up.

Oh, I think it adds up. It adds to up to zero responsible adults, who all let their kids attend this party which was a regular, known event. I'm shocked how many parents seem to abdicate parenting responsibilities once the hands-on young years are done, or how many parents so desperately want to be the "cool" parent that they aren't a parent at all.

But this is the prevailing DCUM attitude whenever a parent asks for help to help their kid with big life decisions. It's disgusting.

PP here and I agree. I also see it with my kids’ friends’ parents. Who look on the surface like “good parents.” Good neighborhood, activities, parents drive them around, etc. But have absolutely no rules or restrictions starting very young - as early as like 4th grade. It’s been shocking and it often goes off the rails in high school. If it doesn’t, it’s because the kid is self-directed, no thanks to the parents.

YES! This x 1000%.
I live in upper NW DC and it seems like from birth to about 5th grade everyone parents the same way as iif they're reading the "upper middle class parenting playbook: travel sports, musical instrument lessons, organic food, attendance at all parent/teacher conferences, lots of family time, etc.
Then at 6th grade there is a sector of parents who start to let anything pass. Drinking in middle school? Cool. Pot? Fine. Sex? No problem.
Like they are truly ok with all of it.
It's so weird to me. Some of these kids turn out ok; a percentage of them do not. Or at least they do not by age 18.
They go way off the rails. I'm sure a good percentage of them turn it around again by their early 20s. But it's just so weird to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to the video of a live conference Adventures With Purpose gave earlier. It's raw footage but you can see the license plate number on the car under water. They called law enforcement and Kiely's family immediately and said that Kiely's dad and grandfather were on site in minutes.

These guys are amazing. They found her car within an hour of starting their search of the lake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0QFhv2Cu0

Any idea why they weren’t called in earlier? I assume Kiely was dead shortly after she left the party, but it would have saved the family the hope/grief cycle. Regardless, such a senseless, tragic death. Also, the speculation regarding a potential abduction was ridiculous. There was never any evidence to suggest that.

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I saw the searchers on 60 minutes. They are way better than local police usually (when it comes to water.) I don’t know why police don’t use them more often/quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tragic outcome for a child with her future ahead of her.

Outside of what you wrote being backwards and dumb, isn't the death of any teen (really anyone under the age of 50), tragic? So she was bright, funny, well loved etc., does that make her more worthy of sympathy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to the video of a live conference Adventures With Purpose gave earlier. It's raw footage but you can see the license plate number on the car under water. They called law enforcement and Kiely's family immediately and said that Kiely's dad and grandfather were on site in minutes.

These guys are amazing. They found her car within an hour of starting their search of the lake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0QFhv2Cu0

Any idea why they weren’t called in earlier? I assume Kiely was dead shortly after she left the party, but it would have saved the family the hope/grief cycle. Regardless, such a senseless, tragic death. Also, the speculation regarding a potential abduction was ridiculous. There was never any evidence to suggest that.

Went to websleuths and answered my own question. AWP didn’t search that area earlier because local LE (with less sophisticated equipment) had searched it repeatedly so they assumed it was clear, then decided to double check. Am planning to donate to AWP— https://adventureswithpurpose.com/products/make-a-donation . They really are amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to the video of a live conference Adventures With Purpose gave earlier. It's raw footage but you can see the license plate number on the car under water. They called law enforcement and Kiely's family immediately and said that Kiely's dad and grandfather were on site in minutes.

These guys are amazing. They found her car within an hour of starting their search of the lake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0QFhv2Cu0

Any idea why they weren’t called in earlier? I assume Kiely was dead shortly after she left the party, but it would have saved the family the hope/grief cycle. Regardless, such a senseless, tragic death. Also, the speculation regarding a potential abduction was ridiculous. There was never any evidence to suggest that.

Went to websleuths and answered my own question. AWP didn’t search that area earlier because local LE (with less sophisticated equipment) had searched it repeatedly so they assumed it was clear, then decided to double check. Am planning to donate to AWP— https://adventureswithpurpose.com/products/make-a-donation . They really are amazing.

Also the water had receded a lot in the last few weeks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tragic outcome for a child with her future ahead of her.

Outside of what you wrote being backwards and dumb, isn't the death of any teen (really anyone under the age of 50), tragic? So she was bright, funny, well loved etc., does that make her more worthy of sympathy?

Of course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tragic outcome for a child with her future ahead of her.

Outside of what you wrote being backwards and dumb, isn't the death of any teen (really anyone under the age of 50), tragic? So she was bright, funny, well loved etc., does that make her more worthy of sympathy?

Nothing backwards and dumb about expressing sadness for a child or teen who dies. They don't get the opportunity to really experience life. (Nothing I read here indicates that the poster wouldn't feel the same for any person who dies.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tragic outcome for a child with her future ahead of her.

Outside of what you wrote being backwards and dumb, isn't the death of any teen (really anyone under the age of 50), tragic? So she was bright, funny, well loved etc., does that make her more worthy of sympathy?

Nothing backwards and dumb about expressing sadness for a child or teen who dies. They don't get the opportunity to really experience life. (Nothing I read here indicates that the poster wouldn't feel the same for any person who dies.)

DP here. No so much "backwards" as just redundant. Saying someone's "future is ahead of them" is redundant. Of course your future is ahead of you. Where else would it be? Its like saying something is "very unique." If its unique, its one of a kind. It can't be "very unique."

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AWP didn't get involved initially because searching in active investigations isn't what it does.

It's an interesting story. Initially, AWP was just a group of divers who got together to do challenging dives. Then they started finding stuff underwater during their dives and removing it--more to clean up waterways than anything else. That found some cool stuff including a wallet with identification and $150 in it, which they returned to the owners. They posted videos of their dives and the things they had found. After a few months they found a car. When they went to remove it, they discovered a group of cars in the same location. So, the focus of their group switched. They decided to purposely look for cars and remove them. The focus was still on doing challenging dives and cleaning up water. They bought sonar equipment to help find the cars. For whatever reason, some people were just fascinated by all the old vehicles they were finding.

Then a man reached out to them. He'd seen the videos. He told the divers that a young man was missing. The police thought his vehicle had gone into a nearby river. There were several cars at the bottom of the river the police couldn't reach. Could they help. AWP contacted the immediate family which agreed to cooperate. They found him. (I guess it makes for better youtube episodes if the family is part of the search.) The family was grateful and word spread.

Other families of missing people started reaching out to them. These were all old cases--one was 23 years old. They solved about 20 cases. This became their calling---finding people who had disappeared while driving and who had probably been submerged.

When Kiely Rodni disappeared, someone involved in the search reached out to them because her car was missing and it seemed like it might have gone into the water. They waited until police had completed their own searches to do a search. Police agreed to let them do it.

You will note that they are very careful not to step on law enforcement toes. They left the car where it was and contacted law enforcement and Kiely's family.

But Kiely was the first person who had only been missing a couple of weeks that they've searched for. Up to now, they've focused on cold cases which are no longer being actively investigated by police. I'm sure that this will help their fundraising. It may end up changing the focus of the group yet again.

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See https://www.kcentv.com/article/news/local/mclennan-county/this-is-a-purpose-solving-cold-cases/500-7b60be73-bc72-4a8c-8606-2f50fa5c0de8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AWP didn't get involved initially because searching in active investigations isn't what it does.

It's an interesting story. Initially, AWP was just a group of divers who got together to do challenging dives. Then they started finding stuff underwater during their dives and removing it--more to clean up waterways than anything else. That found some cool stuff including a wallet with identification and $150 in it, which they returned to the owners. They posted videos of their dives and the things they had found. After a few months they found a car. When they went to remove it, they discovered a group of cars in the same location. So, the focus of their group switched. They decided to purposely look for cars and remove them. The focus was still on doing challenging dives and cleaning up water. They bought sonar equipment to help find the cars. For whatever reason, some people were just fascinated by all the old vehicles they were finding.

Then a man reached out to them. He'd seen the videos. He told the divers that a young man was missing. The police thought his vehicle had gone into a nearby river. There were several cars at the bottom of the river the police couldn't reach. Could they help. AWP contacted the immediate family which agreed to cooperate. They found him. (I guess it makes for better youtube episodes if the family is part of the search.) The family was grateful and word spread.

Other families of missing people started reaching out to them. These were all old cases--one was 23 years old. They solved about 20 cases. This became their calling---finding people who had disappeared while driving and who had probably been submerged.

When Kiely Rodni disappeared, someone involved in the search reached out to them because her car was missing and it seemed like it might have gone into the water. They waited until police had completed their own searches to do a search. Police agreed to let them do it.

You will note that they are very careful not to step on law enforcement toes. They left the car where it was and contacted law enforcement and Kiely's family.

But Kiely was the first person who had only been missing a couple of weeks that they've searched for. Up to now, they've focused on cold cases which are no longer being actively investigated by police. I'm sure that this will help their fundraising. It may end up changing the focus of the group yet again.

Thanks for this background.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AWP didn't get involved initially because searching in active investigations isn't what it does.

It's an interesting story. Initially, AWP was just a group of divers who got together to do challenging dives. Then they started finding stuff underwater during their dives and removing it--more to clean up waterways than anything else. That found some cool stuff including a wallet with identification and $150 in it, which they returned to the owners. They posted videos of their dives and the things they had found. After a few months they found a car. When they went to remove it, they discovered a group of cars in the same location. So, the focus of their group switched. They decided to purposely look for cars and remove them. The focus was still on doing challenging dives and cleaning up water. They bought sonar equipment to help find the cars. For whatever reason, some people were just fascinated by all the old vehicles they were finding.

Then a man reached out to them. He'd seen the videos. He told the divers that a young man was missing. The police thought his vehicle had gone into a nearby river. There were several cars at the bottom of the river the police couldn't reach. Could they help. AWP contacted the immediate family which agreed to cooperate. They found him. (I guess it makes for better youtube episodes if the family is part of the search.) The family was grateful and word spread.

Other families of missing people started reaching out to them. These were all old cases--one was 23 years old. They solved about 20 cases. This became their calling---finding people who had disappeared while driving and who had probably been submerged.

When Kiely Rodni disappeared, someone involved in the search reached out to them because her car was missing and it seemed like it might have gone into the water. They waited until police had completed their own searches to do a search. Police agreed to let them do it.

You will note that they are very careful not to step on law enforcement toes. They left the car where it was and contacted law enforcement and Kiely's family.

But Kiely was the first person who had only been missing a couple of weeks that they've searched for. Up to now, they've focused on cold cases which are no longer being actively investigated by police. I'm sure that this will help their fundraising. It may end up changing the focus of the group yet again.

Thanks for this background.

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[Anonymous]

Nice "friend" who let her drive away super drunk. And nice parents who let a naive 16 y.o. girl even go to this huge drunken and drug fest party full of 300 creeps. Look forward to the toxicology report. Likely more than just alcohol in her system after a party like that. If she wasn't DUI, she could have easily been raped by some random man in such a state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nice "friend" who let her drive away super drunk. And nice parents who let a naive 16 y.o. girl even go to this huge drunken and drug fest party full of 300 creeps. Look forward to the toxicology report. Likely more than just alcohol in her system after a party like that. If she wasn't DUI, she could have easily been raped by some random man in such a state.

It was likely illegal for a 16 year old driver to be operating a vehicle after sundown. It's illegal for a reason. New drivers and night driving don't mix.