Teen possibly abducted from party in CA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nice "friend" who let her drive away super drunk. And nice parents who let a naive 16 y.o. girl even go to this huge drunken and drug fest party full of 300 creeps. Look forward to the toxicology report. Likely more than just alcohol in her system after a party like that. If she wasn't DUI, she could have easily been raped by some random man in such a state.

It was likely illegal for a 16 year old driver to be operating a vehicle after sundown. It's illegal for a reason. New drivers and night driving don't mix.

After sundown? Where did you get this idea? My nephew just got his license and they only time restrictions are that he isn't supposed to drive from 11PM to 7AM "except for work or school." Way after sunset.

Sue my parents for being more restrictive than the law allows.

NP. What? Are you the PP who claimed it’s illegal for a teen to drive after sundown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Some parents don't care enough to make the effort to actually parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Wait. You think it should be considered normal for a 16 year old to be out until 6am?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice "friend" who let her drive away super drunk. And nice parents who let a naive 16 y.o. girl even go to this huge drunken and drug fest party full of 300 creeps. Look forward to the toxicology report. Likely more than just alcohol in her system after a party like that. If she wasn't DUI, she could have easily been raped by some random man in such a state.

It was likely illegal for a 16 year old driver to be operating a vehicle after sundown. It's illegal for a reason. New drivers and night driving don't mix.

That’s a really great point. Have any news outlets reported it was actually illegal for her to be driving at such an hour? I don’t know California’s license laws for minors. If illegal, and since her mother admitted she communicated with her and knew she planned to drive, is the mother at risk of charges? Even in theory.

As written above, it depends what level of license she had (beginners, intermediate or unrestricted).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16 year olds should be able to go to parties and meet friends witihout driving. The problem in this country is you get nowehre without a car. Stupid.

Depends where you live, stupid. You as a taxpayer can vote for policymakers who fund public transport. But then you have to step up and pay taxes willingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Most states have laws restricting new drivers (in many ways) because they have been shown to dramatically save lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

She was breaking the law. In CA, there is a provisional license requirement that drivers at 16 cannot drive past 11PM and cannot have passengers under a certain age unless accompanied by an adult.
Her parents were negligent. She was negligent.
At most, she had a years worth of driving experience. By many accounts, she was drinking. It was dark, it was past midnight. She drove into a lake and paid the ultimate price.
It is heartbreaking and I feel for her family but there are laws in place for this very reason - 16 year olds cannot make decisions in the same capacity as those who are older. Parents should be responsible enough to make the decisions. In this case, they were not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

She was breaking the law. In CA, there is a provisional license requirement that drivers at 16 cannot drive past 11PM and cannot have passengers under a certain age unless accompanied by an adult.
Her parents were negligent. She was negligent.
At most, she had a years worth of driving experience. By many accounts, she was drinking. It was dark, it was past midnight. She drove into a lake and paid the ultimate price.
It is heartbreaking and I feel for her family but there are laws in place for this very reason - 16 year olds cannot make decisions in the same capacity as those who are older. Parents should be responsible enough to make the decisions. In this case, they were not.

Posting this for the 3rd time: UNLESS she had an unrestricted license, which we don’t know. Jesus!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Wait. You think it should be considered normal for a 16 year old to be out until 6am?

It is when the parents can write checks to solve health issues and legal bills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Wait. You think it should be considered normal for a 16 year old to be out until 6am?

It is when the parents can write checks to solve health issues and legal bills.

This has nothing to do with it. You have to protect them until they are developmentally ready to protect themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

She was breaking the law. In CA, there is a provisional license requirement that drivers at 16 cannot drive past 11PM and cannot have passengers under a certain age unless accompanied by an adult.
Her parents were negligent. She was negligent.
At most, she had a years worth of driving experience. By many accounts, she was drinking. It was dark, it was past midnight. She drove into a lake and paid the ultimate price.
It is heartbreaking and I feel for her family but there are laws in place for this very reason - 16 year olds cannot make decisions in the same capacity as those who are older. Parents should be responsible enough to make the decisions. In this case, they were not.

Posting this for the 3rd time: UNLESS she had an unrestricted license, which we don’t know. Jesus!

She was 16. She would have had a restricted license in California. Your license is restricted for the first twelve months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 16 I stayed out until 6:00 AM some nights.
What are you all raising nuns?

Wait. You think it should be considered normal for a 16 year old to be out until 6am?

It is when the parents can write checks to solve health issues and legal bills.

This has nothing to do with it. You have to protect them until they are developmentally ready to protect themselves.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice "friend" who let her drive away super drunk. And nice parents who let a naive 16 y.o. girl even go to this huge drunken and drug fest party full of 300 creeps. Look forward to the toxicology report. Likely more than just alcohol in her system after a party like that. If she wasn't DUI, she could have easily been raped by some random man in such a state.

It was likely illegal for a 16 year old driver to be operating a vehicle after sundown. It's illegal for a reason. New drivers and night driving don't mix.

That’s a really great point. Have any news outlets reported it was actually illegal for her to be driving at such an hour? I don’t know California’s license laws for minors. If illegal, and since her mother admitted she communicated with her and knew she planned to drive, is the mother at risk of charges? Even in theory.

As written above, it depends what level of license she had (beginners, intermediate or unrestricted).

At 16 she would have had, at best, a provisional, or intermediate, license which restricts driving after 11PM for 12 months.

https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/teen-drivers.php

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16 year olds should be able to go to parties and meet friends witihout driving. The problem in this country is you get nowehre without a car. Stupid.

She was driving between a town of 17,000 people and a Forest Service campground. At night! In what world could you expect public transportation in a situation like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sex traffickers probably have her. She is either dead or sold to someone in a third world country.

She is a target for being young, blond, pretty. Parents did not figure that out?

Nailed it