BOE/MCPS is a mess

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

All the astroturfers claim to be registered democrats. They think it makes them relatable.

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

Reading all these angry posts you'd think these BOE members would be run out of town but they'll win by landslides which just goes to show how out of touch these posters are with the mainstream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

Reading all these angry posts you'd think these BOE members would be run out of town but they'll win by landslides which just goes to show how out of touch these posters are with the mainstream.

You realize a big reason why Apple ballot candidates do well is because MCEA is one of the biggest (probably the biggest) political action groups in the county, with advertising and ground-game activities that can't be matched by anyone else.

And good on them, I guess, but how have parents been suckered into perceiving this as a benevolent organization rather than a workers union acting in their own self-interest? I think after the school reopening fight you'll see less people blindly accept Apple ballot candidates, but I think a lot of people never put things together that Apple Ballot means specifically union-endorsed.

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

Reading all these angry posts you'd think these BOE members would be run out of town but they'll win by landslides which just goes to show how out of touch these posters are with the mainstream.

You realize a big reason why Apple ballot candidates do well is because MCEA is one of the biggest (probably the biggest) political action groups in the county, with advertising and ground-game activities that can't be matched by anyone else.

And good on them, I guess, but how have parents been suckered into perceiving this as a benevolent organization rather than a workers union acting in their own self-interest? I think after the school reopening fight you'll see less people blindly accept Apple ballot candidates, but I think a lot of people never put things together that Apple Ballot means specifically union-endorsed.

+1 Amen to this

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Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

Me: I was busing my plate the other day at the coffee shop when I ran into my neighbor.
You: DID SOMEBODY SAY BUSING? YOU KNOW WHO'S AGAINST BUSING? 90% OF THE COUNTY!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

Reading all these angry posts you'd think these BOE members would be run out of town but they'll win by landslides which just goes to show how out of touch these posters are with the mainstream.

You realize a big reason why Apple ballot candidates do well is because MCEA is one of the biggest (probably the biggest) political action groups in the county, with advertising and ground-game activities that can't be matched by anyone else.

And good on them, I guess, but how have parents been suckered into perceiving this as a benevolent organization rather than a workers union acting in their own self-interest? I think after the school reopening fight you'll see less people blindly accept Apple ballot candidates, but I think a lot of people never put things together that Apple Ballot means specifically union-endorsed.

Or because people support their agenda, unlike the fringe nutjobs who post their conspiracy theories here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

Me: I was busing my plate the other day at the coffee shop when I ran into my neighbor.
You: DID SOMEBODY SAY BUSING? YOU KNOW WHO'S AGAINST BUSING? 90% OF THE COUNTY!

Maybe someday they'll eliminate boundaries like Wootton's where most of the families live closer to another high school and you don't hear the Kensington families who live across the street from Einstein complaining about their kids being bussed across county to WJ. Seems like some families love busing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

After reading this forum for the past month, I'm also down with the Apple ballot.

Reading all these angry posts you'd think these BOE members would be run out of town but they'll win by landslides which just goes to show how out of touch these posters are with the mainstream.

You realize a big reason why Apple ballot candidates do well is because MCEA is one of the biggest (probably the biggest) political action groups in the county, with advertising and ground-game activities that can't be matched by anyone else.

And good on them, I guess, but how have parents been suckered into perceiving this as a benevolent organization rather than a workers union acting in their own self-interest? I think after the school reopening fight you'll see less people blindly accept Apple ballot candidates, but I think a lot of people never put things together that Apple Ballot means specifically union-endorsed.

Or because people support their agenda, unlike the fringe nutjobs who post their conspiracy theories here.

MCEA does push compensation increases for teachers above all else, that's not a conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous]

And when there was a legit non Apple Ballot non crazy RWNJ voters chose her over the Apple Ballot candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

Actually that's a pretty irresponsible way to vote. If you really care about schools, learn about the candidates and choose the one you think is best. A lot of the times there won't be a better option than the Apple Ballot, but sometimes there is. The interests of MCEA are not the same as those of students. And that is fine but parents need to vote with that in mind.

Not really. I vote my conscience as do 90% of the public who reelect these BoE members by a landslide. It's because unlike many of the people posting here we can see the bigger picture and realize they're doing a fine job.

If all you do is vote the Apple Ballot then you don't know what you are voting for. If your conscience is telling you to be an uninformed voter , then congrats, mission accomplished.

On the contrary, if you don't vote Apple Ballot, you are backing kooky extremists who want to dismantle public education.

You realize the current board members drove 7,000 students out of MCPS, don't you?

Not that covid had anything to do with it.
B- on the DCUM Troll Scale!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

Me: I was busing my plate the other day at the coffee shop when I ran into my neighbor.
You: DID SOMEBODY SAY BUSING? YOU KNOW WHO'S AGAINST BUSING? 90% OF THE COUNTY!

Maybe someday they'll eliminate boundaries like Wootton's where most of the families live closer to another high school and you don't hear the Kensington families who live across the street from Einstein complaining about their kids being bussed across county to WJ. Seems like some families love busing.

That could be because families who live across the street from Einstein are walkers to Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

Me: I was busing my plate the other day at the coffee shop when I ran into my neighbor.
You: DID SOMEBODY SAY BUSING? YOU KNOW WHO'S AGAINST BUSING? 90% OF THE COUNTY!

Maybe someday they'll eliminate boundaries like Wootton's where most of the families live closer to another high school and you don't hear the Kensington families who live across the street from Einstein complaining about their kids being bussed across county to WJ. Seems like some families love busing.

That could be because families who live across the street from Einstein are walkers to Einstein.

There are many families within walking distance of Einstein that are bussed across the county to WJ.

[Anonymous]

The following four things are not the same:
1. Current boundaries
2. School boundaries that allow every student to go to the school closest to them (not possible without a ton of money)
3. School boundaries that make demographics exactly the same at every school (not gonna happen)
4. School boundaries that do not bus kids across the county but also limit the extent to which low income kids are segregated from everyone else and maximize the use of existing school facilities

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There are many families within walking distance of Einstein that are bussed across the county to WJ.

Nobody in walking distance of Einstein is bused "across the county" to Walter Johnson. Look at a map. Some people apparently regard Rock Creek as a barrier similar to the Himalayas.