BOE/MCPS is a mess

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Maybe someday they'll eliminate boundaries like Wootton's where most of the families live closer to another high school and you don't hear the Kensington families who live across the street from Einstein complaining about their kids being bussed across county to WJ. Seems like some families love busing.

The families who live across the street from Einstein are zoned for...Einstein.

https://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/EinsteinHS.pdf

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There are many families within walking distance of Einstein that are bussed across the county to WJ.

Nobody in walking distance of Einstein is bused "across the county" to Walter Johnson. Look at a map. Some people apparently regard Rock Creek as a barrier similar to the Himalayas.

+1 As someone who lives in the Einstein cluster I don't get the obsession with ToK. We don't need to move more neighborhoods to Einstein or the DCC in general. Maybe they can switch them with Randolph Hills but that sends them all the way to Wheaton HS.

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There are many families within walking distance of Einstein that are bussed across the county to WJ.

Nobody in walking distance of Einstein is bused "across the county" to Walter Johnson. Look at a map. Some people apparently regard Rock Creek as a barrier similar to the Himalayas.

+1 As someone who lives in the Einstein cluster I don't get the obsession with ToK. We don't need to move more neighborhoods to Einstein or the DCC in general. Maybe they can switch them with Randolph Hills but that sends them all the way to Wheaton HS.

Randolph Hills is likely to be rezoned to Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

Actually that's a pretty irresponsible way to vote. If you really care about schools, learn about the candidates and choose the one you think is best. A lot of the times there won't be a better option than the Apple Ballot, but sometimes there is. The interests of MCEA are not the same as those of students. And that is fine but parents need to vote with that in mind.

Not really. I vote my conscience as do 90% of the public who reelect these BoE members by a landslide. It's because unlike many of the people posting here we can see the bigger picture and realize they're doing a fine job.

If all you do is vote the Apple Ballot then you don't know what you are voting for. If your conscience is telling you to be an uninformed voter , then congrats, mission accomplished.

On the contrary, if you don't vote Apple Ballot, you are backing kooky extremists who want to dismantle public education.

You realize the current board members drove 7,000 students out of MCPS, don't you?

Good riddance! Bye to those families. No one cares.

Of course you do. Those families took their $ with them. Most likely, these were high earners paying a lot of taxes. You need these folk to fund your woke programs.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

Sigh. You again?

When parents remain silent or don't participate, you claim that MCPS is acting on their behalf.

When parents speak up, but whenever a fact doesn't go your way, your only recourse is to try to discredit or disregard the result. This is a sign of desperation when caught in a hopeless argument. it's sad and pathetic, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Finally, if you think that bussing is a good idea, see what happens when the Maryland Delegates switch over to Republican majority in protest and see if your budget changes any. Think that will never happen? Virginia thought so too! I'm a registered Democratic voter who voted against Trump and if bussing kicks in, guess who I'm voting for!

All the astroturfers claim to be registered democrats. They think it makes them relatable.

Wait. So if someone isn't a woke lunatic they must be a Republican?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

OK, I'll go slowly for you.

BUSING PLAN

1. Alter the boundary policy so that any future boundary study will result in kids being moved to schools based primarily on their skin color and family income instead of proximity.

1.b. Do this without sending the policy out for public comment so no one knows until it's too late

2. Hire a diversity consultant with experience writing busing plans in major metro areas to conduct a boundary analysis.

3. Test new boundary policy in a middle class area (Clarksburg) to see how much fallout there is. They have far fewer resources than Bethesda and Potmac.

4. If the boundary analysis and test go well, order a systemwide boundary study to move all boundaries with diversity and the main driver. If the analysis and test don't go well, simply wait for natural boundary studies and the diversity-first policy will result in busing, just at a much slower pace.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

OK, I'll go slowly for you.

BUSING PLAN

1. Alter the boundary policy so that any future boundary study will result in kids being moved to schools based primarily on their skin color and family income instead of proximity.

1.b. Do this without sending the policy out for public comment so no one knows until it's too late

2. Hire a diversity consultant with experience writing busing plans in major metro areas to conduct a boundary analysis.

3. Test new boundary policy in a middle class area (Clarksburg) to see how much fallout there is. They have far fewer resources than Bethesda and Potmac.

4. If the boundary analysis and test go well, order a systemwide boundary study to move all boundaries with diversity and the main driver. If the analysis and test don't go well, simply wait for natural boundary studies and the diversity-first policy will result in busing, just at a much slower pace.

Still tilting at windmills, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

OK, I'll go slowly for you.

BUSING PLAN

1. Alter the boundary policy so that any future boundary study will result in kids being moved to schools based primarily on their skin color and family income instead of proximity.

1.b. Do this without sending the policy out for public comment so no one knows until it's too late

2. Hire a diversity consultant with experience writing busing plans in major metro areas to conduct a boundary analysis.

3. Test new boundary policy in a middle class area (Clarksburg) to see how much fallout there is. They have far fewer resources than Bethesda and Potmac.

4. If the boundary analysis and test go well, order a systemwide boundary study to move all boundaries with diversity and the main driver. If the analysis and test don't go well, simply wait for natural boundary studies and the diversity-first policy will result in busing, just at a much slower pace.

So the plan is in your imagination. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

OK, I'll go slowly for you.

BUSING PLAN

1. Alter the boundary policy so that any future boundary study will result in kids being moved to schools based primarily on their skin color and family income instead of proximity.

1.b. Do this without sending the policy out for public comment so no one knows until it's too late

2. Hire a diversity consultant with experience writing busing plans in major metro areas to conduct a boundary analysis.

3. Test new boundary policy in a middle class area (Clarksburg) to see how much fallout there is. They have far fewer resources than Bethesda and Potmac.

4. If the boundary analysis and test go well, order a systemwide boundary study to move all boundaries with diversity and the main driver. If the analysis and test don't go well, simply wait for natural boundary studies and the diversity-first policy will result in busing, just at a much slower pace.

So the plan is in your imagination. Thanks.

Which number isn't fact?

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

Actually that's a pretty irresponsible way to vote. If you really care about schools, learn about the candidates and choose the one you think is best. A lot of the times there won't be a better option than the Apple Ballot, but sometimes there is. The interests of MCEA are not the same as those of students. And that is fine but parents need to vote with that in mind.

Not really. I vote my conscience as do 90% of the public who reelect these BoE members by a landslide. It's because unlike many of the people posting here we can see the bigger picture and realize they're doing a fine job.

If all you do is vote the Apple Ballot then you don't know what you are voting for. If your conscience is telling you to be an uninformed voter , then congrats, mission accomplished.

On the contrary, if you don't vote Apple Ballot, you are backing kooky extremists who want to dismantle public education.

You realize the current board members drove 7,000 students out of MCPS, don't you?

Not that covid had anything to do with it.
B- on the DCUM Troll Scale!

Right- the board's response to COVID drove those students away. Namely, their failure to reopen schools.

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Anonymous wrote:A few malcontents post this nonsense all the time but most people will vote for the incumbents. They are fine with the way they are handling things. This is why they get reelected every time.

I also ignore the nutjobs in these threads and VOTE APPLE BALLOT!!

Actually that's a pretty irresponsible way to vote. If you really care about schools, learn about the candidates and choose the one you think is best. A lot of the times there won't be a better option than the Apple Ballot, but sometimes there is. The interests of MCEA are not the same as those of students. And that is fine but parents need to vote with that in mind.

Not really. I vote my conscience as do 90% of the public who reelect these BoE members by a landslide. It's because unlike many of the people posting here we can see the bigger picture and realize they're doing a fine job.

If all you do is vote the Apple Ballot then you don't know what you are voting for. If your conscience is telling you to be an uninformed voter , then congrats, mission accomplished.

On the contrary, if you don't vote Apple Ballot, you are backing kooky extremists who want to dismantle public education.

You realize the current board members drove 7,000 students out of MCPS, don't you?

7000 left, some due to normal attrition but likely exacerbated by the pandemic. Some left because we were virtual and they wanted in person instruction but have since returned or plan to return after this year. And some left because of frustrations with county policies.

The reality is there are a handful of active posters on this board that have admitted they don’t have school aged children and others that have children that attend private school because they’ve always sent their kids to private, even prior to the pandemic.

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https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-school-boards-calendar-change-was-unprofessional-disrespected-community/

Timely Op-Ed on how mcps/boe is a mess…

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

The mainstream of voter sentiment, perhaps?

Voters love teachers and vote as teachers tell them to vote.

The MCEA loves their Apple Ballot candidates that push through extra time off for employees at a time students need face to face instruction.

Parents should boycott voting for the Apple Ballot if you want independent decision making and oversight of MCPS by the Board of Ed.

I'll make my voting decisions independently, thank you.

-a parent

Agreed. I am so sick of the small minority of parents who think they run the county with their “advocacy”. They act like we should all be so thankful for all that they do. I’m sorry- you don’t speak for me so please stop acting like anyone owes you anything. These parents know who they are. They are even worse because they bully others who don’t fall in line.

Agree. 100%. This was evident with the busing plan they tried to ram through. These east county progressives said that increasing diversity was the most important thing they could do for the students. 90% of the county disagrees with them when they were asked in the boundary analysis.

Sigh. This again? 90% of a few self-selected respondents.

+1 Also, can I get a link to the busing plan? Where is it? /s

It's in the Boundary Policy, code FAA. Back in 2018, a handful of unscrupulous BOE members pushed through changes to this policy that elevated the demographics/diversity factor about the other 3 factors including proximity. They did this because they said that schools needed to be more diverse and that proximity wasn't all that important. That's a defacto busing plan. 3 month later, they resolved to conduct a boundary analysis and hired the diversity consultant WXY which had just written the busing plan for NYC.

That's not a busing plan. It's not even a plan.

OK, I'll go slowly for you.

BUSING PLAN

1. Alter the boundary policy so that any future boundary study will result in kids being moved to schools based primarily on their skin color and family income instead of proximity.

1.b. Do this without sending the policy out for public comment so no one knows until it's too late

2. Hire a diversity consultant with experience writing busing plans in major metro areas to conduct a boundary analysis.

3. Test new boundary policy in a middle class area (Clarksburg) to see how much fallout there is. They have far fewer resources than Bethesda and Potmac.

4. If the boundary analysis and test go well, order a systemwide boundary study to move all boundaries with diversity and the main driver. If the analysis and test don't go well, simply wait for natural boundary studies and the diversity-first policy will result in busing, just at a much slower pace.

So the plan is in your imagination. Thanks.

You listed a series of events, some more based in reality than others. I have yet to see MCPS's "busing plan" unless you are actually referring to the current school bus stops and schedules.