BOE/MCPS is a mess

[Anonymous]

MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

I support the teachers and their union so I guess I should vote straight Apple ballot then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

I support the teachers and their union so I guess I should vote straight Apple ballot then.

I suppose students and in person learning opportunities for students. I will not be voting for anyone on the Apple Ballot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

I support the teachers and their union so I guess I should vote straight Apple ballot then.

Good. No one cares.

I suppose students and in person learning opportunities for students. I will not be voting for anyone on the Apple Ballot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But get this: Lynne Harris WAS a MCEA union member when she ran. While she may not have received their endorsement she was, de facto, an Apple Ballot candidate.

There’s no escaping the Apple in MoCo.

She did not accept their campaign funding and she was not promoted by the MCEA. She also has not been blindly following the MCEA agenda. Lynne Harris is an independent thinker asking hard questions to the Board. She challenged the original vote when Robert’s Rule of Order went out the window.

As long as Lynne Harris is not on the Apple Ballot, I will vote for her.

Thanks Lynne

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

The posts here really underscore how disconnected from the mainstream many of these posters are...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

I support the teachers and their union so I guess I should vote straight Apple ballot then.

Apparently, the few people who don't are frequent posters here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

So incumbents will have a double challenge -

1) Explain their lack of oversight of MCPS including keeping students in virtual learning far longer than most school systems, adding additional half days for students, and wasting $850,000 on 7 extra days of vacation for school administrators

2) The bad PR that will come with an Apple Ballot endorsement. The Apple Ballot equals the MCEA candidate and the MCEA is who is pushing for an agenda that hurts students.

I support the teachers and their union so I guess I should vote straight Apple ballot then.

Apparently, the few people who don't are frequent posters here.

Yet we were enough to beat Dasgupta in the election so I guess none of the Apple Ballot supporters bothered to come out to vote. Maybe they were afraid of getting Covid from their mail-in ballot.

[Anonymous]

Based on the last BOE election, I would say the endorsement of The Washington Post (Harris) means more than the endorsement of the Apple Ballot (Dasgupta).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

The posts here really underscore how disconnected from the mainstream many of these posters are...

Its the opposite. How does the board get away with all the really awful things they do? That's a good question. Most parents I talk to are completely disconnected from board politics and normally don't care about the school their kid goes to. They also don't know about the monkey business that goes on behind the scenes. However, the more the board does monkey business, the more parents are starting to take an interest. True, it takes a while, so it's a long-term process for word-of-mouth to spread.

The board will continue to go too far just like they always do and assume that everyone will ignore it like they usually do. Funny thing about imperial hubris, though - it tends to blind those in power. Unfortunately, when that happens, the results can be somewhat unpredictable.

The board members currently in power are there because District board members aren't voted for by their own district members. That is how a few ultra-left-progressives and non-white racist radicals are controlling the social agendas within the county currently, and it has worked well for them. But I think this board has done enough damage to mainstream education now that it could actually threaten the Democratic hold on power within Montgomery County. I really do. There are enough parents ticked off at the big-boy table now that I think it will give the Republicans just enough leverage to change seats - just like it did in Virginia.

So, it may be the current board isn't voted out, but the people who control their pursestrings will be another story. If I were them, the first thing I'd do is cut their legal budget and make them pay for lawsuits out of their own budget. That one move will completely overturn all leadership positions within MCPS.

Again, this is only if the Democratic Party isn't smart enough to clean house and go more mainstream before that happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

The posts here really underscore how disconnected from the mainstream many of these posters are...

Its the opposite. How does the board get away with all the really awful things they do? That's a good question. Most parents I talk to are completely disconnected from board politics and normally don't care about the school their kid goes to. They also don't know about the monkey business that goes on behind the scenes. However, the more the board does monkey business, the more parents are starting to take an interest. True, it takes a while, so it's a long-term process for word-of-mouth to spread.

The board will continue to go too far just like they always do and assume that everyone will ignore it like they usually do. Funny thing about imperial hubris, though - it tends to blind those in power. Unfortunately, when that happens, the results can be somewhat unpredictable.

The board members currently in power are there because District board members aren't voted for by their own district members. That is how a few ultra-left-progressives and non-white racist radicals are controlling the social agendas within the county currently, and it has worked well for them. But I think this board has done enough damage to mainstream education now that it could actually threaten the Democratic hold on power within Montgomery County. I really do. There are enough parents ticked off at the big-boy table now that I think it will give the Republicans just enough leverage to change seats - just like it did in Virginia.

So, it may be the current board isn't voted out, but the people who control their pursestrings will be another story. If I were them, the first thing I'd do is cut their legal budget and make them pay for lawsuits out of their own budget. That one move will completely overturn all leadership positions within MCPS.

Again, this is only if the Democratic Party isn't smart enough to clean house and go more mainstream before that happens.

I think you underestimate their survival instincts and accrued knowledge. They know exactly where the boundaries are (pun intended) up to which they can do whatever they want without people noticing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

The posts here really underscore how disconnected from the mainstream many of these posters are...

Its the opposite. How does the board get away with all the really awful things they do? That's a good question. Most parents I talk to are completely disconnected from board politics and normally don't care about the school their kid goes to. They also don't know about the monkey business that goes on behind the scenes. However, the more the board does monkey business, the more parents are starting to take an interest. True, it takes a while, so it's a long-term process for word-of-mouth to spread.

The board will continue to go too far just like they always do and assume that everyone will ignore it like they usually do. Funny thing about imperial hubris, though - it tends to blind those in power. Unfortunately, when that happens, the results can be somewhat unpredictable.

The board members currently in power are there because District board members aren't voted for by their own district members. That is how a few ultra-left-progressives and non-white racist radicals are controlling the social agendas within the county currently, and it has worked well for them. But I think this board has done enough damage to mainstream education now that it could actually threaten the Democratic hold on power within Montgomery County. I really do. There are enough parents ticked off at the big-boy table now that I think it will give the Republicans just enough leverage to change seats - just like it did in Virginia.

So, it may be the current board isn't voted out, but the people who control their pursestrings will be another story. If I were them, the first thing I'd do is cut their legal budget and make them pay for lawsuits out of their own budget. That one move will completely overturn all leadership positions within MCPS.

Again, this is only if the Democratic Party isn't smart enough to clean house and go more mainstream before that happens.

I think you underestimate their survival instincts and accrued knowledge. They know exactly where the boundaries are (pun intended) up to which they can do whatever they want without people noticing.

Not true. When students were kept in virtual learning for 18 months, when parents saw first hand how problematic the disjointed curriculum was, when the Board approved additional half days, and if schools go into 14 days of shutdown - voters who are parents notice. For the next election, noticed enough to mobilize and be vocal. Noticed enough to actively contribute and volunteer so Apple Ballot candidates are defeated. A vote for the Apple Ballot is a vote against what’s best for students. Enough is enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCEA will go for the devil they know rather than the devil they don't (incumbents over newcomers) every time.

And most of us love the incumbents anyway. They've done a great job as far as most of us are concerned since they win by a landslide every time.

The posts here really underscore how disconnected from the mainstream many of these posters are...

Its the opposite. How does the board get away with all the really awful things they do? That's a good question. Most parents I talk to are completely disconnected from board politics and normally don't care about the school their kid goes to. They also don't know about the monkey business that goes on behind the scenes. However, the more the board does monkey business, the more parents are starting to take an interest. True, it takes a while, so it's a long-term process for word-of-mouth to spread.

The board will continue to go too far just like they always do and assume that everyone will ignore it like they usually do. Funny thing about imperial hubris, though - it tends to blind those in power. Unfortunately, when that happens, the results can be somewhat unpredictable.

The board members currently in power are there because District board members aren't voted for by their own district members. That is how a few ultra-left-progressives and non-white racist radicals are controlling the social agendas within the county currently, and it has worked well for them. But I think this board has done enough damage to mainstream education now that it could actually threaten the Democratic hold on power within Montgomery County. I really do. There are enough parents ticked off at the big-boy table now that I think it will give the Republicans just enough leverage to change seats - just like it did in Virginia.

So, it may be the current board isn't voted out, but the people who control their pursestrings will be another story. If I were them, the first thing I'd do is cut their legal budget and make them pay for lawsuits out of their own budget. That one move will completely overturn all leadership positions within MCPS.

Again, this is only if the Democratic Party isn't smart enough to clean house and go more mainstream before that happens.

I think you underestimate their survival instincts and accrued knowledge. They know exactly where the boundaries are (pun intended) up to which they can do whatever they want without people noticing.

Not true. When students were kept in virtual learning for 18 months, when parents saw first hand how problematic the disjointed curriculum was, when the Board approved additional half days, and if schools go into 14 days of shutdown - voters who are parents notice. For the next election, noticed enough to mobilize and be vocal. Noticed enough to actively contribute and volunteer so Apple Ballot candidates are defeated. A vote for the Apple Ballot is a vote against what’s best for students. Enough is enough.

Again, who are the candidates that will run against the incumbents? Has anyone stepped up, started organizing, raising money? You can't vote against someone, you can only vote for someone else.