Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS’s own boundary study page still states that the new options:
• “include the recommendation to utilize Crown High School as a temporary holding school for upcoming projects.”

It’s probably prudent to start with holding school and wait a few years to see the enrollment that area with so many new development. This does the least disruption and make better informed decisions

[Anonymous]

Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

I don't see how you arrive at those conclusions. For an apt analogy "good of the game" would have to mean "in the best interest of all of the individual players." And I don't know how a high concentration of top performers in one place is in the best interest of all of the players, or at least why it would be preferable on that basis.

The "overall quality" of the school system is measured by the overall performance of ALL the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

I don't see how you arrive at those conclusions. For an apt analogy "good of the game" would have to mean "in the best interest of all of the individual players." And I don't know how a high concentration of top performers in one place is in the best interest of all of the players, or at least why it would be preferable on that basis.

The "overall quality" of the school system is measured by the overall performance of ALL the students.

Ah, so redistribution of “wealth”. It’s not equitable for Wootton to have so many high achieving students. Wootton must be forced to share. Are Wootton students just academic currency to you? Are they pieces you can move around at will in order to achieve some academic utopia across MCPS? They don’t belong to you or MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

While I'm not going to claim there's zero benefit, it isn't clear to me there's a compelling benefit to "preserving the legacy" of Wootton or any other specific school in MCPS. The purpose of schools is to educate kids. That comes down to teachers, programs, and facilities/resources. Not specific buildings, and not specific names.

Any (sufficiently large) school district can create a school with good numbers by simply pulling together only students from the richest families. But that doesn't actually improve schools or outcomes overall, or even necessarily individually.

To the extent "legacy" can be preserved cost effectively and without harming the quality of the district schools as a whole, sure, do it. But maintaining an extra school for that purpose is a steep price to pay which will almost certainly come out of programs that are more necessary.

I'm not thrilled with the outcome of assigning a new school to region 4 instead of 5, but long term that is going to be better for region 5 and everyone else than spending money on an extra school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

I don't see how you arrive at those conclusions. For an apt analogy "good of the game" would have to mean "in the best interest of all of the individual players." And I don't know how a high concentration of top performers in one place is in the best interest of all of the players, or at least why it would be preferable on that basis.

The "overall quality" of the school system is measured by the overall performance of ALL the students.

Ah, so redistribution of “wealth”. It’s not equitable for Wootton to have so many high achieving students. Wootton must be forced to share. Are Wootton students just academic currency to you? Are they pieces you can move around at will in order to achieve some academic utopia across MCPS? They don’t belong to you or MCPS.

Oh, and why did MCPS back off Options A-D, which would have impacted Churchill? The parents there pushed back hard.

You want MCPS to be an academic utopia by redistributing academic “wealth” comrade? Then all W schools must be affected, or none of them should be. Let us know how that works out for you and the BOE.

Hint: they would all be looking for new jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

The whole point is that Wootton is not disappearing and you guys sound crazy to claim it is. Do you really think that you're entitled to your school never having boundary changes and staying in the same location forever? Even though those things happen to other schools all the time and no one else does this histrionic "our school as we know it is disappearing" thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

I don't see how you arrive at those conclusions. For an apt analogy "good of the game" would have to mean "in the best interest of all of the individual players." And I don't know how a high concentration of top performers in one place is in the best interest of all of the players, or at least why it would be preferable on that basis.

The "overall quality" of the school system is measured by the overall performance of ALL the students.

Ah, so redistribution of “wealth”. It’s not equitable for Wootton to have so many high achieving students. Wootton must be forced to share. Are Wootton students just academic currency to you? Are they pieces you can move around at will in order to achieve some academic utopia across MCPS? They don’t belong to you or MCPS.

DP. No, but we shouldn't spend a bunch of money for the express of keeping them segregated from the rest of the district. That's what you're asking for there- you think there's value to keeping those students concentrated in one place, just like you apparently think there's value to keeping good baseball players concentrated on one team.

The thing is, that doesn't bring any value to the other families (and baseball teams). We could argue about whether it hurts, but there's certainly no value to them. So why should they pay extra for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

I don't see how you arrive at those conclusions. For an apt analogy "good of the game" would have to mean "in the best interest of all of the individual players." And I don't know how a high concentration of top performers in one place is in the best interest of all of the players, or at least why it would be preferable on that basis.

The "overall quality" of the school system is measured by the overall performance of ALL the students.

Ah, so redistribution of “wealth”. It’s not equitable for Wootton to have so many high achieving students. Wootton must be forced to share. Are Wootton students just academic currency to you? Are they pieces you can move around at will in order to achieve some academic utopia across MCPS? They don’t belong to you or MCPS.

PP here and I did not advocate for redistribution of "wealth" or any students and I didn't argue equity. I simply don't see the asserted benefit claimed in the post I responded to from maintaining an existing concentration. That is why I added the last clause about not seeing why it is preferable on that basis.

[Anonymous]

And people wonder why 40 staff members left Wootton last school. Imagine these parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why 40 staff members left Wootton last school. Imagine these parents.

I wonder how many even have kids there or if it’s just homeowners like the pp who think $400k of equity is tied to the Wootton name.