If all your siblings went on vacation without you, would you be hurt?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

How wonderful that you are so self-actualized.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

How wonderful that you are so self-actualized.

Nope just mature and able to understand that life does not revolve around me and my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP it is rude. It's like the birthday party rule. If you just want to invite half the class fine. Once you go inviting everyone but a few who have special needs/considerations, you are a jerk.

You can either:

1.) Invite all sisters and let the one with all the kids know the boundaries-you will not be able to provide babysitting.

2.) Stick to just you and 1 sister.

3.) Exclude 1 sister only and deal with the fall out and possibly create a life long rift.

To the person who says "put on your big girl pants" my mother says that all thew time and she wonders why she has lost so many friends and cousins and her sister. Usually people that callous are hyper-sensitive if they are the ones being left out, but have no empathy for those they exclude.

Why are we applying an elementary school rule to interactions between adult siblings? Come on.

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So the youngest sister must be excluded because sister 3 and her family aren't a good fit for this trip? Wow. Sounds super mature.

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Anonymous wrote:So the youngest sister must be excluded because sister 3 and her family aren't a good fit for this trip? Wow. Sounds super mature.

Well for all we know sister number 4 would prefer a no kids vacation

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

No, 4 year old's mom or dad stays with them.

I mean, it doesn't sound fun for the parents of the littlest kids, but it shouldn't be such a huge concern that you're thinking about excluding them all together. They can decide whether they want to go or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

I think the sticking point would be the ages of the sister’s kids. The 5 month old and 4 year old don’t ski, so an adult needs to be dealing with them at all times. It’s not clear what level skiers the sister’s other 2 kids are, other than they are not as good as the other cousins and are too young to ski alone, so another adult needs to be with them at all times as well. OP seems to think/know that other members of the group will be tasked with helping out with the sister’s kids, whether it’s the non skier kids or the young skiers, and she doesn’t want to have to do that on her ski vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

I think the sticking point would be the ages of the sister’s kids. The 5 month old and 4 year old don’t ski, so an adult needs to be dealing with them at all times. It’s not clear what level skiers the sister’s other 2 kids are, other than they are not as good as the other cousins and are too young to ski alone, so another adult needs to be with them at all times as well. OP seems to think/know that other members of the group will be tasked with helping out with the sister’s kids, whether it’s the non skier kids or the young skiers, and she doesn’t want to have to do that on her ski vacation.

most big ski resorts have full day lessons/day care for 4 year olds (how much of the time is spent skiing varies by resort). They also have childcare for babies in most cases (not sure exactly when it starts). Not saying your sister should avail herself of these options but they definitely exist so it seems a bit presumptuous to use the lack of daytime child care options for the little kids as an excuse to not invite that sister.

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Yeah, OP is a jerk. No question.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

I think the sticking point would be the ages of the sister’s kids. The 5 month old and 4 year old don’t ski, so an adult needs to be dealing with them at all times. It’s not clear what level skiers the sister’s other 2 kids are, other than they are not as good as the other cousins and are too young to ski alone, so another adult needs to be with them at all times as well. OP seems to think/know that other members of the group will be tasked with helping out with the sister’s kids, whether it’s the non skier kids or the young skiers, and she doesn’t want to have to do that on her ski vacation.

most big ski resorts have full day lessons/day care for 4 year olds (how much of the time is spent skiing varies by resort). They also have childcare for babies in most cases (not sure exactly when it starts). Not saying your sister should avail herself of these options but they definitely exist so it seems a bit presumptuous to use the lack of daytime child care options for the little kids as an excuse to not invite that sister.

OP has already said that her sister will not be comfortable utilizing any resort child care because of Covid. I don’t understand why people think OP either needs to contort herself and her vacation plans in order to invite this sister who’s family is not compatible with the vacation OP wants, or invite sister and dictate the child care she needs to utilize to come on the trip and not cramp the style of everyone else. This is not that hard, everyone is an adult, sister with the 4 kids under 10 does not need to be invited and should take a long hard look at herself if she is butt hurt by the fact that her sister didn’t want to take a ski vacation with her group of kids that either can’t ski or aren’t at the same level as the other people on the trip. This is part of the deal when you have kids, not every activity people in your circle participate in will be appropriate for your entire family, it’s not a personal affront to not include you in those activities because the world doesn’t revolve around you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

I think the sticking point would be the ages of the sister’s kids. The 5 month old and 4 year old don’t ski, so an adult needs to be dealing with them at all times. It’s not clear what level skiers the sister’s other 2 kids are, other than they are not as good as the other cousins and are too young to ski alone, so another adult needs to be with them at all times as well. OP seems to think/know that other members of the group will be tasked with helping out with the sister’s kids, whether it’s the non skier kids or the young skiers, and she doesn’t want to have to do that on her ski vacation.

most big ski resorts have full day lessons/day care for 4 year olds (how much of the time is spent skiing varies by resort). They also have childcare for babies in most cases (not sure exactly when it starts). Not saying your sister should avail herself of these options but they definitely exist so it seems a bit presumptuous to use the lack of daytime child care options for the little kids as an excuse to not invite that sister.

OP has already said that her sister will not be comfortable utilizing any resort child care because of Covid. I don’t understand why people think OP either needs to contort herself and her vacation plans in order to invite this sister who’s family is not compatible with the vacation OP wants, or invite sister and dictate the child care she needs to utilize to come on the trip and not cramp the style of everyone else. This is not that hard, everyone is an adult, sister with the 4 kids under 10 does not need to be invited and should take a long hard look at herself if she is butt hurt by the fact that her sister didn’t want to take a ski vacation with her group of kids that either can’t ski or aren’t at the same level as the other people on the trip. This is part of the deal when you have kids, not every activity people in your circle participate in will be appropriate for your entire family, it’s not a personal affront to not include you in those activities because the world doesn’t revolve around you.

It’s not her “circle,” it’s her FAMILY for heaven’s sake. My god, you people are heartless.

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Anyone covid careful would not bring young kids to a ski resort. But, lets be real. OP doesn't like this sister and wants to exclude her. Its ok OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. We go skiing with a group of mixed ages and abilities all the time. Someone says "we're taking the kids up to Difficult Slope this morning. We'll join up with you at Easy Slope after lunch." And anyone not comfortable with Hard Slope says "ok, have fun! "

And then you leave the four year old alone on the bunny slope?

Huh? The 4 year old has two parents. Why would she need to be alone on the bunny slope?

And then what about the other kids who are also under 10 but not at the same level as their cousins? I’m guessing OP, knowing her sister and the dynamics, believes that the other 2 kids will become the responsibility of the others in the group, and she doesn’t want that responsibility on her ski vacation, which is perfectly legitimate. The sister with the 4 kids should be self aware enough to know that her family isn’t a good fit for this trip and tell her sisters to enjoy themselves. It’s called maturity.

We do this every year. Everyone breaks off into smaller groups and does the hills they're capable of. When my husband wants to do blacks, ds and I do our own thing or hang out with cousins. Then dh joins up with us again after a bit. Meanwhile, other members of the group are doing the same, sometimes together, sometimes separately. Never do all 12 of us stick together all day.

I suppose op doesn't think her sister and spouse are self sufficient enough for this arrangement?

I think the sticking point would be the ages of the sister’s kids. The 5 month old and 4 year old don’t ski, so an adult needs to be dealing with them at all times. It’s not clear what level skiers the sister’s other 2 kids are, other than they are not as good as the other cousins and are too young to ski alone, so another adult needs to be with them at all times as well. OP seems to think/know that other members of the group will be tasked with helping out with the sister’s kids, whether it’s the non skier kids or the young skiers, and she doesn’t want to have to do that on her ski vacation.

most big ski resorts have full day lessons/day care for 4 year olds (how much of the time is spent skiing varies by resort). They also have childcare for babies in most cases (not sure exactly when it starts). Not saying your sister should avail herself of these options but they definitely exist so it seems a bit presumptuous to use the lack of daytime child care options for the little kids as an excuse to not invite that sister.

OP has already said that her sister will not be comfortable utilizing any resort child care because of Covid. I don’t understand why people think OP either needs to contort herself and her vacation plans in order to invite this sister who’s family is not compatible with the vacation OP wants, or invite sister and dictate the child care she needs to utilize to come on the trip and not cramp the style of everyone else. This is not that hard, everyone is an adult, sister with the 4 kids under 10 does not need to be invited and should take a long hard look at herself if she is butt hurt by the fact that her sister didn’t want to take a ski vacation with her group of kids that either can’t ski or aren’t at the same level as the other people on the trip. This is part of the deal when you have kids, not every activity people in your circle participate in will be appropriate for your entire family, it’s not a personal affront to not include you in those activities because the world doesn’t revolve around you.

It’s not her “circle,” it’s her FAMILY for heaven’s sake. My god, you people are heartless.

So becuase someone is family you have to include them on a vacation? I have adult children and my siblings have young kids. If my siblings with young kids went to Disney and didn’t invite me I would not be all in my feelings about it. Different life phases, not some kind of personal attack. Seriously there must be a lot of millennials in these responses becuase I don’t understand the idea that everyone needs to be invited to everything as adults. This isn’t an elementary school party.