Can someone explain AEM to me?

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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .

I don't think anyone's saying that.

I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.

It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?

That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.

Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.

I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.

Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.

I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".

OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."

Didn't they offer Key the ASFS building (the ill fated swap), and then tried to engage with them to pick another building? If they had seen the writing on the wall, maybe they could have gotten a bigger building and there would have been a different series of school moves. Instead it was always "Keep Key on Key".
FWIW, I think its funny that the Key/ASFS/Innovation drama will always exist on DCUM.

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I thought Innovation was going to be a Title 1 school -- with all the affordable housing concentrated there, I thought the FARMS rate was around 50%.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Innovation was going to be a Title 1 school -- with all the affordable housing concentrated there, I thought the FARMS rate was around 50%.

It might not be 50% right away, but it will trend in that direction. I enjoy how the Key parents with their $100k+ annual PTA budget try to frame themselves as the poor downtrodden underdogs.

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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.

Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.

When did she post that on APE? I only saw her post something about CRT and comment that she hopes APE doesn't become like Loudon...irony much? To APE's credit, I haven't seen any crazy about CRT despite attempts to liken them to Loudon county.

sometime yesterday:
"I do know that I do not agree on removing Laura Ingalls Wilder's books from schools, or pulling down some of the statues that have been removed recently, because those figures were part of history at one time, all in the name of "CRT.""

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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.

Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.

When did she post that on APE? I only saw her post something about CRT and comment that she hopes APE doesn't become like Loudon...irony much? To APE's credit, I haven't seen any crazy about CRT despite attempts to liken them to Loudon county.

sometime yesterday:
"I do know that I do not agree on removing Laura Ingalls Wilder's books from schools, or pulling down some of the statues that have been removed recently, because those figures were part of history at one time, all in the name of "CRT.""

So she’s a champion of all the Lost Causes, including the Confederacy? WTF. Told ya she’s no Democrat.

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I can see where she is coming from. I am a person of color, so no way can you say that I am racist or a white supremacist. But, I kind of don't see the point in all the renaming efforts and changing the county logo or removing books from libraries. George Mason, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, etc. were our country's founding fathers. I'm not sure we should be judging them by today's standards or saying that they aren't worthy of our respect. Yes we shouldn't blindly say they were great people, but at the same time, we shouldn't remove all references to them just because we can. Same with changing the county seal, its a waste of time and energy right now. I bet we are about a year away from renaming Arlington period. Arlington is too woke for its own good sometimes.

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This times 1,000,000. Yet Arlington and SA schools are still failing. How many of you care about Drew or Carlin Springs….

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Anonymous wrote:I can see where she is coming from. I am a person of color, so no way can you say that I am racist or a white supremacist. But, I kind of don't see the point in all the renaming efforts and changing the county logo or removing books from libraries. George Mason, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, etc. were our country's founding fathers. I'm not sure we should be judging them by today's standards or saying that they aren't worthy of our respect. Yes we shouldn't blindly say they were great people, but at the same time, we shouldn't remove all references to them just because we can. Same with changing the county seal, its a waste of time and energy right now. I bet we are about a year away from renaming Arlington period. Arlington is too woke for its own good sometimes.

First of all, being a person of color doesn't mean you haven't internalized the messages of white supremacy.

Also, you are arguing against doing things people aren't doing. No one is saying we can't talk about white guys, just that they need to be fully understood.

Is anyone removing Little House books from libraries? I remember changes that were intended to, again, understand Laura Ingalls Wilder more fully as a product of her time and place, and I think the name of an award was changed.

I also don't see how people can say "It's not fair to judge the Founders by current standards" and say "The Founders were heroes and we must admire and follow them."

I think the current county seal looks like a toothbrush with a big squirt of toothpaste on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.

Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.

When did she post that on APE? I only saw her post something about CRT and comment that she hopes APE doesn't become like Loudon...irony much? To APE's credit, I haven't seen any crazy about CRT despite attempts to liken them to Loudon county.

sometime yesterday:
"I do know that I do not agree on removing Laura Ingalls Wilder's books from schools, or pulling down some of the statues that have been removed recently, because those figures were part of history at one time, all in the name of "CRT.""

So she’s a champion of all the Lost Causes, including the Confederacy? WTF. Told ya she’s no Democrat.

The fixation on her in this forum is bizarre. She seems to have some compulsion about posting and inserting herself into drama, but the obsessive comments here are so out of proportion. They are also cherry picking her comments as she has made others condemning the parents in Loudon and distancing herself from anti-CRT. Shes not a liberal progressive but no reason attack for “not being a DEM.” That criticism is also just so yuck.

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Do you not follow local issues?
Falls Church just renamed George Mason and TJ to random names. George Mason, TJ, GW, etc. are probably the most influential virginians ever. Saying they were racist asshats is just as bad as saying that they were absolute heroes. Either way is missing the point. Ghandi was a racist, that doesn't change the fact that he did amazing things.

They are literally spending millions redesigning the county seal because people find it offensive. I agree that it looks like toothpaste -- what a waste of time and resources during a year when we literally thousands of people in our county are having trouble just feeding themselves.

And you saying I've internalized white supremacy (when I do not have a drop of white heritage) is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not follow local issues?
Falls Church just renamed George Mason and TJ to random names. George Mason, TJ, GW, etc. are probably the most influential virginians ever. Saying they were racist asshats is just as bad as saying that they were absolute heroes. Either way is missing the point. Ghandi was a racist, that doesn't change the fact that he did amazing things.

They are literally spending millions redesigning the county seal because people find it offensive. I agree that it looks like toothpaste -- what a waste of time and resources during a year when we literally thousands of people in our county are having trouble just feeding themselves.

And you saying I've internalized white supremacy (when I do not have a drop of white heritage) is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

To understand where the PP is coming from (how a POC can be racist), you have to read How to Be an Antiracist by Kendi. Actually, I think that that is the trouble with this whole conversation - terms of being used that not everyone is aware of (i.e., antiracist, racist) and then when you say something....BOOM. You're wrong, you're a racist, you're a white supremacist. So many extremes and labels that no one really understands. Maybe Kendi should give DCUM a briefing or something?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Innovation was going to be a Title 1 school -- with all the affordable housing concentrated there, I thought the FARMS rate was around 50%.

It might not be 50% right away, but it will trend in that direction. I enjoy how the Key parents with their $100k+ annual PTA budget try to frame themselves as the poor downtrodden underdogs.

What planet are you living on. The FARM student rate is significantly less at Innovation this year, and gentrification is taking care of the rest. No amount of affordable housing is going to take place of all of the garden apartments razed for multimillion dollar super story apartment and condo buildings.

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Yup. Diversity in North Arlington is primarily due to all of the contractors, foreign service nationals and professionals of color (like doctors, etc.)

The county does mandate affordable housing in new developments, but it is not replacing the displaced populations 1:1.

I don’t see Innovations FARM rate ever reaching Title I.




Probably will look a lot like Glens instead.

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Glebe

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Innovation was going to be a Title 1 school -- with all the affordable housing concentrated there, I thought the FARMS rate was around 50%.

It might not be 50% right away, but it will trend in that direction. I enjoy how the Key parents with their $100k+ annual PTA budget try to frame themselves as the poor downtrodden underdogs.

What planet are you living on. The FARM student rate is significantly less at Innovation this year, and gentrification is taking care of the rest. No amount of affordable housing is going to take place of all of the garden apartments razed for multimillion dollar super story apartment and condo buildings.

There was a lot of discussion that the FARM rate for Key would be high and even higher after Queen St project. How do you know the FARM rate for next year, as we haven't had any classes yet and the date used for prediction won't show how many students have been leaving for private etc (and there are a LOT in LV leaving for private)