Can someone explain AEM to me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

The country’s dumbest “smart” county.

I'm in APE's FB group and I've heard they've been getting interview requests from all over the world since the election on the school closing issue and how it was fundamental in the election, including from the New York Times. The UK's version of the WSJ even had an article with them in it this weekend about this topic.
https://www.ft.com/content/1ee19c87-7f3d-417b-8b21-a3c68517c835

Meanwhile, Smart Restart and the whackos in AEM are still in denial.

Thanks for confirming that APE is Republican/right wing. Not bipartisan or Dems.

LOL, McAuliffe won Arlington 76-23.

The few, the loud, the irrational.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wear a mask when inside stores, etc. because I don't want to get Covid or pass along Covid. It's a health decision, there's nothing political about it. I am high risk so I try to stay away from anyone who isn't masked indoors.

I don't wear a mask in my car, not sure how that could be a virtue signal since who's going to really notice? My spouse does sometimes, she says it's just easier to keep it on. So I imagine the people you see with masks in cars just find it easier to put it on and forget about it.

Outside it depends. If I'm in a crowd or close to someone else, I'll wear it. But usually I don't.

Out of curiosity — did you take any of these precautions for the flu, before the pandemic? Will you now? I ask because I’m really not looking forward to covid restrictions being applied going forward to run of the mill seasonal flu outbreaks going forward but I suspect it will happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

The country’s dumbest “smart” county.

I'm in APE's FB group and I've heard they've been getting interview requests from all over the world since the election on the school closing issue and how it was fundamental in the election, including from the New York Times. The UK's version of the WSJ even had an article with them in it this weekend about this topic.
https://www.ft.com/content/1ee19c87-7f3d-417b-8b21-a3c68517c835

Meanwhile, Smart Restart and the whackos in AEM are still in denial.

Thanks for confirming that APE is Republican/right wing. Not bipartisan or Dems.

LOL, McAuliffe won Arlington 76-23.

And Biden won Arlington 81-17. I'm not saying it was a huge shift. But it was enough of a shift that Youngkin will be our new governor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

Because there’s a small, loud group of neurotics whose try to make their personal hang ups requirements for everyone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

Because there’s a small, loud group of neurotics whose try to make their personal hang ups requirements for everyone

Other than schools, where is there a mask requirement. I don't think I've worn a mask in about 6 months, except a few businesses that I try to avoid but understand their right to require it when I'm on their property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

Because there’s a small, loud group of neurotics whose try to make their personal hang ups requirements for everyone

Other than schools, where is there a mask requirement. I don't think I've worn a mask in about 6 months, except a few businesses that I try to avoid but understand their right to require it when I'm on their property.

You don’t wear a mask indoors? Grocery store? Doctor’s office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

And you even offer alternative reasons for their behavior - non-political statement ones.
BTW, those NOT wearing masks anywhere are more ignorant of science and more harmful in their obstinate defiance. At least a person wearing a mask driving their own car alone isn't posing any potential danger to others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

Because there’s a small, loud group of neurotics whose try to make their personal hang ups requirements for everyone

Other than schools, where is there a mask requirement. I don't think I've worn a mask in about 6 months, except a few businesses that I try to avoid but understand their right to require it when I'm on their property.

You don’t wear a mask indoors? Grocery store? Doctor’s office?

I am not the PP but what if they didn't? What would you think about them if you saw them out? Would you instantly think they were a Republican or anti-vaxxer. If your answer is yes, then your problem is you and you need to think about why you are so judgmental and why you so desperately need to brand people as bad.

Is it really about health or science in Arlington that you are concerned about or is making sure that people know that you believe Faucci and you listen to NPR, and you would never, ever vote for Youngkin? Would you honestly stop wearing a mask even if the science said you could? or would you wait until you saw enough white, liberal friends doing it that you would feel comfortable not wearing one? After all, for years, science told you that wearing a mask during flu season was a good idea but you never did that did you?

The community spread numbers aren't reliable and never were because anyone from anywhere in the DC metro region can be tested in Arlington Co and the result is listed as an Arlington Co case but that person might very well live in PG county or DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS' "stay closed forever" approach last year absolutely did swing some people in Arlington toward Youngkin. Multiply that across all of N. Virginia (where all the districts followed the same crappy model) and that's absolutely a difference maker in an election with a 2% margin of victory.

And I'm not spiteful, I'm sad. And I fear stupid one-party Arlington will not learn from its errors. It would help for APS to acknowledge that it was too conservative in its response to the pandemic last year, but I'm not holding my breath.

Of course not. Masking, openings, closings, these things became immediately polarized. Wearing a mask (or not!), insisting on closures (or openings!) these are all symbolic of ones political tribe. It’s why you see middle aged white moms wearing masks outside with no one within a hundred yards of them, or in a car with the windows rolled up. It’s not about COVID. It’s just a signal to others: “I’m a good white person/democrat, not a crazy Trumpy antimasker”. Like a yard sign, these kind of policies sound like armchair public health role playing, but really it’s just partisanship.

Yeah, nobody wears a mask just because they don't want to catch or pass-along a disease.
Everybody isn't making a statement when they do or don't wear a mask. Other people, like you, turn every individual's choices and values and beliefs into a political statement and judge.
I'm not making a statement when I go somewhere without my mask because I forgot to bring it. And I'm not making a political statement when I wear one in a store where it's optional.

Yeah, you ignored my description, which didn’t include your example. The people wearing a mask as they walk down the bike trail by themselves on a windy day are either virtue signaling or don’t know much about science, or just like the feel of masks on their faces.

Some people have started wearing them to cut down on allergies. But you’re welcome to continue with your disparaging fantasies about strangers. Why do you care so much about what other people wear?

Because there’s a small, loud group of neurotics whose try to make their personal hang ups requirements for everyone

Other than schools, where is there a mask requirement. I don't think I've worn a mask in about 6 months, except a few businesses that I try to avoid but understand their right to require it when I'm on their property.

You don’t wear a mask indoors? Grocery store? Doctor’s office?

I've worn it at the doctor's (dentist) office, which I totally understand and makes sense. I've only been once. Dry cleaners too a couple of times because that's what they require. That's all I recall offhand. I always have a mask and will put it on if asked, no problem. It's not a moral thing that I'm going to fight anyone about. But I don't see the need to wear it as a general matter. Others of course can do what they want and I don't think twice about why they choose that.

[Anonymous]

Gross. The APE boils are festering again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gross. The APE boils are festering again.

How so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gross. The APE boils are festering again.

There was no scenario in which that WASNT going to blow up. Sigh.