Can someone explain AEM to me?

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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


I'm not interested in the school moves debate, but the last sentence gave me pause. Who are APS to implement culturally sensitive curricula when they can't even practice it themselves?

Whatever CRT actually is, it needs to start at the top.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


I’m down for a MS/HS cross-county lottery but for ES (extended day) almost all families want to be close to their school.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


The people of old mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch les crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, i'm a liberal
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


I’m down for a MS/HS cross-county lottery but for ES (extended day) almost all families want to be close to their school.


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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


I’m down for a MS/HS cross-county lottery but for ES (extended day) almost all families want to be close to their school.


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This is effin' Arlington. Your next ES is only 0.5 miles away. All of you are ridiculous.

No-one asked me, but since we're Monday morning quarterbacking the school moves:

1.) Key should have stayed where it was
2.) There's equity issues with ATS moving to McKinley, but it is a bigger facility. I'm sure those nice white neighbors will start NIMBY-ing when the FARM kids start hanging around the Westover shops
3.) ATS should have become a neighborhood schools to relieve overcrowding at ASFS, Barrett and maybe Ashlawn?
4.) The Rosslyn kids would have been happy at Long Branch and Taylor. I am a former-former Key parent who lives in Rosslyn, and let me tell you your bus will be horrendously late several times a month as they get stuck in traffic during rush hour. Fun times. You would have gotten the reverse commute going down 50.

Equity don't matter when you got the money and the political connections to keep away from the undesirables.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


I’m down for a MS/HS cross-county lottery but for ES (extended day) almost all families want to be close to their school.


+1


This is effin' Arlington. Your next ES is only 0.5 miles away. All of you are ridiculous.

No-one asked me, but since we're Monday morning quarterbacking the school moves:

1.) Key should have stayed where it was
2.) There's equity issues with ATS moving to McKinley, but it is a bigger facility. I'm sure those nice white neighbors will start NIMBY-ing when the FARM kids start hanging around the Westover shops
3.) ATS should have become a neighborhood schools to relieve overcrowding at ASFS, Barrett and maybe Ashlawn?
4.) The Rosslyn kids would have been happy at Long Branch and Taylor. I am a former-former Key parent who lives in Rosslyn, and let me tell you your bus will be horrendously late several times a month as they get stuck in traffic during rush hour. Fun times. You would have gotten the reverse commute going down 50.

Equity don't matter when you got the money and the political connections to keep away from the undesirables.

That’s true, I have a 10 minute commute to my school and pass by 3 on my way to work.
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Anonymous wrote:So those white liberal parents in south Arlington, opting for school that are only 50% fr/l are the problem? But not any white families that can buy their way out of thinking about it. Right . . .


I don't think anyone's saying that.


I'll say it. Go look at the APS Board meetings regarding the school moves and boundary changes that took place in N Arlington. Upper middle class white parents with SB connections were able to convince the board to move them to closer schools while the poorer kids in certain planning units will now pass a couple of elementary schools on their way to their new school.



S Arlington's boundary plan I'm sure will be more of the same.



It was either that or concentrate all of the poor kids at Innovation. I thought that was something else we were supposed to avoid?




That's not true. Some of those kids live closer to Taylor or Long Branch (which was not in play, I know. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be those poor kids who will be moved twice, in 2021 and 2022.)

And I'm no crazy Key parent, but I'm still not convinced that school had to move. A lot of parents moved into Key's walk zone so that their kids could walk to school. But it was the rich parents in Rosslyn and Lyon Park that lobbied hard for that move. They could have just solved this issue just as they will do at the former ATS building: make a trailer park! No recess for the option kids because the neighborhood kids are more important! But at least they'll eat outside because it's the only option they'll have without lunch starting at 9:30.


Are you that clueless bike nut?

No, it wasn’t “rich” parents in Rosslyn. There were plenty of “poor” families who didn’t want to bus past 2+ other schools.

And it certainly wasn’t Lyon Park - those families go to Long Branch.

Choice schools are a choice.



I'm an ASFS parent. Even I can see that the poor students had no say in the matter at all.

Some PTA Exec Board members have been working on the board for years. After a few sputters, they got what they wanted.

My kid will be able to walk to school, so yea? Meanwhile it's now the poor kids who will be driving by 3 schools on the way to school.

And I think OP meant Lyon Village. I get confused too.


Are you taking about that little bit above Lee Highway that got moved to Taylor? I don’t see anyone driving past 3 schools to get to their assigned school on this map. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Elementary-Immersion-Map-SY-2021-22-April-2021-Update.pdf South of Clarendon and west of Courthouse got the short end of the stick distance wise but they are at the same school as always.



I think PP is talking about the Key kids. Who are at a CHOICE school. If anyone is driving past other schools, it should be the choice students.

The "poor" kids in Rosslyn will be happy not to bus past multiple schools to their "neighborhood school".



OP here. I am talking about the Key kids, but not in the way that you are.

If they had to move, there were better buildings that could handle their capacity. Giving them a tiny building and making ASFS's problems theirs wasn't the answer. Now they will deal with PE in the hallways and 10am lunch instead.

There are FARM families in Rosslyn and Lyon Village, but even with the affordable housing units coming online, I'm sure it doesn't come close to equaling Key's FARM rate percentage. If I was going to guess what's going to happen now, the FARM kids who live around the new Innovation school will try the new Key building, realize that busing to George Mason won't work for them with parent schedules and engagement. and then transfer back to Innovation or ASFS, elevating the FARM percentages at both schools even more.

I'm not even a Key family, and I can see the unfairness of it all. And I'm not the poster who goes to ASFS either. Third party who does believe in looking at all sides of the equity argument in all matters. Bring on the "CRT."


Neighborhood seats should be close to the students. It’s not “fair” for any students to bus past other schools to go to their neighborhood school.


Raise you one CRT: Given how segregated Arlington actually is, neighborhood schools and emphasizing walkability exacerbate structural racism.

Progressive white people are only liberal until they become inconvenienced.


I’m down for a MS/HS cross-county lottery but for ES (extended day) almost all families want to be close to their school.


+1


This is effin' Arlington. Your next ES is only 0.5 miles away. All of you are ridiculous.

No-one asked me, but since we're Monday morning quarterbacking the school moves:

1.) Key should have stayed where it was
2.) There's equity issues with ATS moving to McKinley, but it is a bigger facility. I'm sure those nice white neighbors will start NIMBY-ing when the FARM kids start hanging around the Westover shops
3.) ATS should have become a neighborhood schools to relieve overcrowding at ASFS, Barrett and maybe Ashlawn?
4.) The Rosslyn kids would have been happy at Long Branch and Taylor. I am a former-former Key parent who lives in Rosslyn, and let me tell you your bus will be horrendously late several times a month as they get stuck in traffic during rush hour. Fun times. You would have gotten the reverse commute going down 50.

Equity don't matter when you got the money and the political connections to keep away from the undesirables.


No. Key should be a neighborhood school. There is so much density along the corridor; it’s a terrible place for an option school. Put the schools near the kids.
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DP. Key could have stayed a quasi neighborhood school but no. Some people didn’t rest until only English would be spoken in the hallways.

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Actually you have S Arlington parents trying to get into Claremont and Montessori to blame for that. That’s who was agitating to end neighborhood preference.
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Anonymous wrote:DP. Key could have stayed a quasi neighborhood school but no. Some people didn’t rest until only English would be spoken in the hallways.



Now there will be a mix of MANY languages.

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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.


Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.
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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.


Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.


Is EHN's name Erin?
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Anonymous wrote:Classic reply on AEM to EHN today because it's so, so on point:

TO EHN: I have to thank you. Every time you speak, your words restore my confidence that the misguided and intolerant will almost always out themselves. You’re defending the statues? And blaming their removal on CRT? Even I thought you were smarter than that. If you really are a liberal like you claim, maybe you should take a step back and consider why so many people “misunderstand” your intentions.


Wait … Is EHN defending confederate statues? Are you kidding me? Ugh…. I saw her post oN APE that she didn’t want anyone make her kids feel bad about being white and just eye rolled because if she things that what anti racism education is she is a lost cause.


When did she post that on APE? I only saw her post something about CRT and comment that she hopes APE doesn't become like Loudon...irony much? To APE's credit, I haven't seen any crazy about CRT despite attempts to liken them to Loudon county.
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