New TJ Lawsuit Filed 3/10/21 by Pacific Legal Foundation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

Exactly. There is a huge amount of casual anti-Asian racism in this community and on this board. Those people need to examine their thoughts and statements. Many are from those who fully adopted the anti-racist philosophy but have no awareness of their own racism against Asian Americans. It’s not just trumpers who do it. It has become a huge problem in America and those folks need to own up to their own thinking and statements.

It is worth noting that the folks who advocate for the status quo with respect to elite school admissions find a lot of friends in the Trumpist community.

The reason is because they hate Black folks WAY more than they hate you, and you do a good job of keeping them out of "their" schools.

But they still hate you enough to commit atrocities against you given the opportunity. They are using you.

Taking race out of admissions is not the same as hate. It's looking for equality in admissions decisions as opposed to affirmative action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

This is nonsense on about ten different levels. The only reason this conversation is even tangentially about Asians is because they are over represented in the TJ community by a factor of about 3.5-4.

You don’t get to cry “equity” when the likely upshot of all of this is that you become a slightly less dominant majority.

Kids at TJ (of all races) graduate with significant deficiencies in cultural fluency because they exist in a homogeneous space. That was the case when TJ was 60% white, and it remains the case now that TJ is 70+% Asian.

What you’re upset about is that the new process makes it more difficult to exert parental influence and resources on the process, and you believe you’re entitled to that advantage because you care more about TJ from an earlier age than other parents.

But the reality is, both the kids who get in to TJ with this new process and the kids who DON’T get in because of this new process will exist in spaces that are far more likely to produce positive educational environments and outcomes for the respective students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

Exactly. There is a huge amount of casual anti-Asian racism in this community and on this board. Those people need to examine their thoughts and statements. Many are from those who fully adopted the anti-racist philosophy but have no awareness of their own racism against Asian Americans. It’s not just trumpers who do it. It has become a huge problem in America and those folks need to own up to their own thinking and statements.

It is worth noting that the folks who advocate for the status quo with respect to elite school admissions find a lot of friends in the Trumpist community.

The reason is because they hate Black folks WAY more than they hate you, and you do a good job of keeping them out of "their" schools.

But they still hate you enough to commit atrocities against you given the opportunity. They are using you.

Taking race out of admissions is not the same as hate. It's looking for equality in admissions decisions as opposed to affirmative action.

Equality based on what? Some misguided notion of “merit” as narrowly and conveniently defined by an ability to study for a high-stakes exam?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

This is nonsense on about ten different levels. The only reason this conversation is even tangentially about Asians is because they are over represented in the TJ community by a factor of about 3.5-4.

You don’t get to cry “equity” when the likely upshot of all of this is that you become a slightly less dominant majority.

Kids at TJ (of all races) graduate with significant deficiencies in cultural fluency because they exist in a homogeneous space. That was the case when TJ was 60% white, and it remains the case now that TJ is 70+% Asian.

What you’re upset about is that the new process makes it more difficult to exert parental influence and resources on the process, and you believe you’re entitled to that advantage because you care more about TJ from an earlier age than other parents.

But the reality is, both the kids who get in to TJ with this new process and the kids who DON’T get in because of this new process will exist in spaces that are far more likely to produce positive educational environments and outcomes for the respective students.

I, and many others, disagree with pretty much everything you just said. You are also disparaging TJ graduates and could not be more wrong about their cultural fluency. This forum is packed full of complainers that know nothing about the school other than the fact that their little Larlo couldn't get in because he isn't as bright as mommy and daddy thought he was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pacific Legal Foundation filed a lawsuit against Brabrand and the School Board today in federal district court on behalf of a primarily Asian advocacy group alleging the changes to the TJ admissions process were racially motivated and violate the Equal Protection Clause.

https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Coalition-for-TJ-v.-Fairfax-County-School-Board.pdf

This one will require more resources to defend than the one filed in local court. Why is Brabrand subjecting FCPS to such litigation risk over and over again? He got hired saying "the main thing was the main thing." People naively thought he meant academics; instead, it's turned out to be "equity" initiatives that invite judicial challenges.

This, like the other lawsuits, is going absolutely nowhere. The families of the eighth graders are not going to get their injunctive relief - it was already denied in another case - and once the die is cast in the admissions process and students are admitted, they will almost certainly remove their names from the lawsuit. (By the way, several of the litigants are almost certain to gain admission.)

FCPS is many things, but one thing they're not is willing to put themselves at risk of litigation. The entire reason this process took so long was because Brabrand was ironing out any possibility of legal challenge. By far the most effective department in FCPS is Legal, and it has to be because of nonsense like this.

I'd like to ask this question: Why is admission to TJ so important to these communities?

I believe it's the discrimination against them because they are Asian that is problem.

The other problem is the discrimination from Asians. It’s like “who came first, the egg or the chicken?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

When you start thinking that changing TJ admissions standards to include a broader cross-section of FCPS students is equivalent to police brutality, it's time to reassess your world view. You do know that there are Asian kids who attend, for example, Luther Jackson middle school who could benefit from the change? There are Asian kids who attend Glasgow MS whose parents can't afford test prep centers for $4,000? If your kid doesn't get into TJ and is a standout at the base school, MIT or another good STEM school is still in the cards. In fact, I know Asian siblings where the standout base school kid got into a better college than the TJ sibling. Once you're shot dead or suffocated to death by the police, that's it. Making TJ more accessible to kids who aren't in the top one percent of test takers or who don't have the resources for STEM extra curriculars/enrichment/prep isn't antiAsian. One of DD's Asian friends whose parents only have a high school education and zero ability to shell out for expensive test prep is applied this year. I hope she gets in because she has a strong interest in STEM. I'm not AntiAsian and I support the change because I think there needs to be more socioeconomic diversity in access to STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

Exactly. There is a huge amount of casual anti-Asian racism in this community and on this board. Those people need to examine their thoughts and statements. Many are from those who fully adopted the anti-racist philosophy but have no awareness of their own racism against Asian Americans. It’s not just trumpers who do it. It has become a huge problem in America and those folks need to own up to their own thinking and statements.

It is worth noting that the folks who advocate for the status quo with respect to elite school admissions find a lot of friends in the Trumpist community.

The reason is because they hate Black folks WAY more than they hate you, and you do a good job of keeping them out of "their" schools.

But they still hate you enough to commit atrocities against you given the opportunity. They are using you.

Taking race out of admissions is not the same as hate. It's looking for equality in admissions decisions as opposed to affirmative action.

Equality based on what? Some misguided notion of “merit” as narrowly and conveniently defined by an ability to study for a high-stakes exam?

Yes. Equality based on the OUTCOME of a high stakes exam that anyone can prepare for and take and be graded on the same scale despite their race, religion, gender, or ethnicity. That's as equal as life gets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pacific Legal Foundation filed a lawsuit against Brabrand and the School Board today in federal district court on behalf of a primarily Asian advocacy group alleging the changes to the TJ admissions process were racially motivated and violate the Equal Protection Clause.

https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Coalition-for-TJ-v.-Fairfax-County-School-Board.pdf

This one will require more resources to defend than the one filed in local court. Why is Brabrand subjecting FCPS to such litigation risk over and over again? He got hired saying "the main thing was the main thing." People naively thought he meant academics; instead, it's turned out to be "equity" initiatives that invite judicial challenges.

because the NAACP made it clear that they would have filed the same suit with out changes and, unlike the plaintiffs here, they would have case law on their side

Unlikely. NAACP complaints about the prior admissions system at TJ were filed with the Education Department under Obama and went nowhere. If all you have is a difference between the percentage of Black and Hispanic kids in FCPS and the percentage of Black and Hispanic kids at TJ, that won't get you very far.

EEOC members and Civil Rights division lawyers appointed by Biden are very left-wing and support the idea that disparity in outcome between races means discrimination. Look at the Oracle lawsuit that has been running for many years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Scott Brabrand and the FCPS board would have been fired had they worked for Georgetown Law. They openly discriminated against one racial group.

I'd say it's a bit more nuanced than that. I'd say that FCPS is trolling people with a sophomoric proposal, so that they can leverage cancel culture in a transparent attempt to blame-shift a legacy of prejudice onto ethnic groups which were never really part of it.

The bottom line is that white enrollment at TJ will increase; meanwhile, different minority groups will be pitted against each other (Asians and Eastern Europeans vs Blacks and Hispanics) instead of collaborating towards mutual goals of diversity. Stereotypes of Asians being one-dimensional and Blacks being unable to succeed without giving up on standards will flow freely from the enablers. It's so obvious that you really do have to wonder whether it's motivated by pure ignorance or by intent.

This. FCPS has been failing the minority groups for decades. Instead of addressing the problems, this is a weak attempt to shift the blame to someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Pacific Legal Foundation filed a lawsuit against Brabrand and the School Board today in federal district court on behalf of a primarily Asian advocacy group alleging the changes to the TJ admissions process were racially motivated and violate the Equal Protection Clause.

https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Coalition-for-TJ-v.-Fairfax-County-School-Board.pdf

This one will require more resources to defend than the one filed in local court. Why is Brabrand subjecting FCPS to such litigation risk over and over again? He got hired saying "the main thing was the main thing." People naively thought he meant academics; instead, it's turned out to be "equity" initiatives that invite judicial challenges.

This, like the other lawsuits, is going absolutely nowhere. The families of the eighth graders are not going to get their injunctive relief - it was already denied in another case - and once the die is cast in the admissions process and students are admitted, they will almost certainly remove their names from the lawsuit. (By the way, several of the litigants are almost certain to gain admission.)

FCPS is many things, but one thing they're not is willing to put themselves at risk of litigation. The entire reason this process took so long was because Brabrand was ironing out any possibility of legal challenge. By far the most effective department in FCPS is Legal, and it has to be because of nonsense like this.

I'd like to ask this question: Why is admission to TJ so important to these communities?

I believe it's the discrimination against them because they are Asian that is problem.

The other problem is the discrimination from Asians. It’s like “who came first, the egg or the chicken?”

Undoubtedly but two wrongs never made a right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

This is nonsense on about ten different levels. The only reason this conversation is even tangentially about Asians is because they are over represented in the TJ community by a factor of about 3.5-4.

You don’t get to cry “equity” when the likely upshot of all of this is that you become a slightly less dominant majority.

Kids at TJ (of all races) graduate with significant deficiencies in cultural fluency because they exist in a homogeneous space. That was the case when TJ was 60% white, and it remains the case now that TJ is 70+% Asian.

What you’re upset about is that the new process makes it more difficult to exert parental influence and resources on the process, and you believe you’re entitled to that advantage because you care more about TJ from an earlier age than other parents.

But the reality is, both the kids who get in to TJ with this new process and the kids who DON’T get in because of this new process will exist in spaces that are far more likely to produce positive educational environments and outcomes for the respective students.

I, and many others, disagree with pretty much everything you just said. You are also disparaging TJ graduates and could not be more wrong about their cultural fluency. This forum is packed full of complainers that know nothing about the school other than the fact that their little Larlo couldn't get in because he isn't as bright as mommy and daddy thought he was.

The staggering lack of cultural fluency displayed by the folks claiming to be TJ parents on this form kinda proves my point. The apple, as it were, doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

But unless you’ve had dozens of conversations with TJ graduates centering around how different it is to be around kids who don’t look like them in college, kindly have a seat. They know they’re sheltered. And they know they’re brought up with racist attitudes - white kids too, big time, btw. They suffer from the lack of representation as well.

Lord help me if I ever name any kids I have Larlo. I’ll admit that’s amusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

Exactly. There is a huge amount of casual anti-Asian racism in this community and on this board. Those people need to examine their thoughts and statements. Many are from those who fully adopted the anti-racist philosophy but have no awareness of their own racism against Asian Americans. It’s not just trumpers who do it. It has become a huge problem in America and those folks need to own up to their own thinking and statements.

It is worth noting that the folks who advocate for the status quo with respect to elite school admissions find a lot of friends in the Trumpist community.

The reason is because they hate Black folks WAY more than they hate you, and you do a good job of keeping them out of "their" schools.

But they still hate you enough to commit atrocities against you given the opportunity. They are using you.

Taking race out of admissions is not the same as hate. It's looking for equality in admissions decisions as opposed to affirmative action.

Equality based on what? Some misguided notion of “merit” as narrowly and conveniently defined by an ability to study for a high-stakes exam?

Yes. Equality based on the OUTCOME of a high stakes exam that anyone can prepare for and take and be graded on the same scale despite their race, religion, gender, or ethnicity. That's as equal as life gets.

No.... no it’s not. Access to prep is wildly different based on your resources, your geography, your cultural connections, and maybe most importantly, your parents’ ambitions. And it works, or else folks wouldn’t invest in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

This is nonsense on about ten different levels. The only reason this conversation is even tangentially about Asians is because they are over represented in the TJ community by a factor of about 3.5-4.

You don’t get to cry “equity” when the likely upshot of all of this is that you become a slightly less dominant majority.

Kids at TJ (of all races) graduate with significant deficiencies in cultural fluency because they exist in a homogeneous space. That was the case when TJ was 60% white, and it remains the case now that TJ is 70+% Asian.

What you’re upset about is that the new process makes it more difficult to exert parental influence and resources on the process, and you believe you’re entitled to that advantage because you care more about TJ from an earlier age than other parents.

But the reality is, both the kids who get in to TJ with this new process and the kids who DON’T get in because of this new process will exist in spaces that are far more likely to produce positive educational environments and outcomes for the respective students.

I, and many others, disagree with pretty much everything you just said. You are also disparaging TJ graduates and could not be more wrong about their cultural fluency. This forum is packed full of complainers that know nothing about the school other than the fact that their little Larlo couldn't get in because he isn't as bright as mommy and daddy thought he was.

The staggering lack of cultural fluency displayed by the folks claiming to be TJ parents on this form kinda proves my point. The apple, as it were, doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

But unless you’ve had dozens of conversations with TJ graduates centering around how different it is to be around kids who don’t look like them in college, kindly have a seat. They know they’re sheltered. And they know they’re brought up with racist attitudes - white kids too, big time, btw. They suffer from the lack of representation as well.

Lord help me if I ever name any kids I have Larlo. I’ll admit that’s amusing.

“Lack of cultural fluency”... that’s a new way othering Asian Americans. Good job, PP, keep the hate alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While most posters on this forum are driven by a sense of propriety and not malice - casual anti-Asian racism can lead you here

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html

Some pro FCPS admin posters here may not recognize their own casual anti-Asian racism, but they are perpetuating the same old racial stereotype and prejudice towards Asian communities. They don't really have any hard evidence to back up their assertion but they claimed things like "most TJ parents are here illegally", "far far too many TJ kids having mental health issues", "they cheat and prep", etc. In today's environment causal racism is deadly. Before spewing out your own prejudice ask yourself if you have real data to back it up.

It's sad that you are using this tragedy to make your keep TJ it is argument. SMH.

What is sad is how the “reformers” are following the Trumpian approach to make their majoritarian argument. Mexicans are rapists and Asians are one-dimensional cheaters. Stereotypes and name calling is the way to go. George Floyd was an isolated tragedy - how uncouth of you to use a tragedy to trigger a discussion on systemic racism. Deny the problem. Ignore leading indicators that point to anti-minority sentiment.

There is clearly reform needed on TJ admissions but the current approach is how poll taxes were used to bypass the fifteenth amendment. The new method gets the outcome the School Board needs and in the larger scheme of things equity vis-a-vis Asians is affordable collateral damage.

This is nonsense on about ten different levels. The only reason this conversation is even tangentially about Asians is because they are over represented in the TJ community by a factor of about 3.5-4.

You don’t get to cry “equity” when the likely upshot of all of this is that you become a slightly less dominant majority.

Kids at TJ (of all races) graduate with significant deficiencies in cultural fluency because they exist in a homogeneous space. That was the case when TJ was 60% white, and it remains the case now that TJ is 70+% Asian.

What you’re upset about is that the new process makes it more difficult to exert parental influence and resources on the process, and you believe you’re entitled to that advantage because you care more about TJ from an earlier age than other parents.

But the reality is, both the kids who get in to TJ with this new process and the kids who DON’T get in because of this new process will exist in spaces that are far more likely to produce positive educational environments and outcomes for the respective students.

I, and many others, disagree with pretty much everything you just said. You are also disparaging TJ graduates and could not be more wrong about their cultural fluency. This forum is packed full of complainers that know nothing about the school other than the fact that their little Larlo couldn't get in because he isn't as bright as mommy and daddy thought he was.

The staggering lack of cultural fluency displayed by the folks claiming to be TJ parents on this form kinda proves my point. The apple, as it were, doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

But unless you’ve had dozens of conversations with TJ graduates centering around how different it is to be around kids who don’t look like them in college, kindly have a seat. They know they’re sheltered. And they know they’re brought up with racist attitudes - white kids too, big time, btw. They suffer from the lack of representation as well.

Lord help me if I ever name any kids I have Larlo. I’ll admit that’s amusing.

“Lack of cultural fluency”... that’s a new way othering Asian Americans. Good job, PP, keep the hate alive.

Ain’t all of them, and it ain’t just them. It is a natural outgrowth of existing in homogeneous spaces.

It’s not TJ kids’ fault, and the problem - as referenced - isn’t at all limited to the Asian American population. So no, they’re not being “othered” here. Good try though!