Living way below our means is not a brag. It is a way to prioritize what is essential...college and retirement. It means A longer commute for my DH, average cars, average wardrobes, home cooked meals, and living with substandard home public school. It means spending money on EC, teaching my kids at home so that they are high achievers and can go to go magnet schools. It means a weekly cleaning lady who can take over the exhausting chores and that I can use my extensive education to guide my kids. The thing is that my DH has brains and he is strategic. He supports me because he wants our kids to get the best care and counselling from a highly educated mom. He has allocated my talents in a sphere that benefits our family and our children the most. He is a decent earner who wants to come out ahead in areas of his life that I can make happen...high achieving, well raised happy kids, a smooth running household, a beautiful house, meeting his social and family obligations. And he does not gaslight me like OP is doing. Yes, sure I could have make around 100k and that would have made our household wealthier but what would be the point? He comes home with stories of his colleagues divorcing, the kids having issues with drugs, drinking, teen sex, dropping out and he is immensely grateful of my role and our lives. I don't for a moment feel bad that we are living in neighborhood with the lowest ranked public schools. We made some sacrifices in housing, commute. But we were very strategic about what we valued. It is amazing to see slow and steady winning the race. I would respect and love my DH even if he made less money because I am smart enough to make silk purse out of a sow ear, but I would have divorced him if he gaslighted me like OP. |
Aww. Nice implication that WOHM don't love their children and don't want to be there. Come on. Sure, of course you're not a SAHM... ![]() If OP's wife goes back to work, the household will continue to function happily. Millions of women everywhere manage to work full time, keep a nice home, and raise happy healthy children. OP is a government employee, a GS-15, he has all the flexibility in the world to stay home with a sick child if his wife gets a job. So again... there's no point in his wife giving up tens of thousands in income "just in case" of this potential "two weeks of pneumonia and raging fever" hypothetical illness you just made up. The bottom line is that OP wants her to get a job. That was the agreement. She doesn't get to decide on her own that she just doesn't feel like it now, and expect her marriage to continue as before. |
So you intentionally put your kids into crappy schools so you can brag about not working and how your DH respects your SAHM role? I’m so confused. It’s like you purposely created adversity so you can feel some sort of purpose instead of both working. |
Yeah, I'd say your priorities are messed up, lady! |
It doesn't take all day to clean and cook. Kids can make simple meals. |
LOL. No. It's called being a family and pitching in where needed. |
Great. Now it's not only OP's job to support his wife, it's also their kids' job through college loans. |
NP. Youngest is 15. I have a 14 and 16 yo. The only realistic issue in your list is illness and there’s no need to always stay home when your kid is pill. Depends on what the illness is. Both my husband and I work full-time, after care was elementary school. Now in high school, my kids are in sports and different activities. They don’t come home until closer to five which is a little bit before I get home. If the concern is saving for college, she does need to get a job. |
Also, I don't see where OP gaslighted his wife. The dude is burned out and highly stressed. |
Most husbands also never asked for the world where they are the only moneymaker. Yet they deal. I understand most women AND men would prefer a world where money troubles do not exist. OP's wife does not have that option. No high earner is proposing to her. OP also doesn't have the option not to work. |
Full time job. Op"s wife has a job but, it is part time. Don't forget facts matter. |
OP, there are some scripts on Mr Money Mustache on how to talk to your spouse re: money. You might have to look around a bit to find them.
Big picture it sounds like you are overstressed and your health is suffering from the stress. I'd emphasize that to her. If she wants to stay part time I'd suggest downsizing your life. Sell a car. Move to an apartment. Buy clothes at thrift shops etc. Get the $25 per month phone plan. Eliminate cable etc. |
I’m just stating one example. The neighbor’s kid arrives at 12:30 and others arrive at varying times. He probably gets home early to make sandwiches for their study groups. |
They also shouldn't have had four kids! ( DP) |
OP's children are in high school. They don't need a sitter. They can come home from the bus, open the door, do their homework and fix themselves a meal. If they can't do that, that's their mother's failure to teach them basic life skills. They can get lawn service. Bills are point and click. Taxes are someone else's job. Stock portfolio is someone else's job. OP's children are in high school, again. College is staring them in the face. The umbilical cord has been cut a while ago. |