Who is going to be next presidential candidate for democrats?

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Anonymous wrote:I will never ever vote for Kamala Harris. Can’t stand her


Who cares. Would she be a good president is the question. And she would.
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Anonymous wrote:I will never ever vote for Kamala Harris. Can’t stand her


Who cares. Would she be a good president is the question. And she would.


No. She is a blowhard with no original ideas and no real values other than self promotion. She threw Biden under the bus and wrote a book instead of stepping up and doing anything. I have never heard her say anything but boring platitudes.

Fwiw I voted for her.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I will never ever vote for Kamala Harris. Can’t stand her [/quote]

Who cares. Would she be a good president is the question. And she would. [/quote]NO here. Kamala is a woman who ran in 2016 to be the Democratic nominee and got no delegates. The truth is that the American voters dont like her. She shouldn't run again. [/quote]

Harris is in the same boat as Pence and Vance. Their political careers are permanently tainted by their forever associations with extremely unpopular presidents. People see Pence and Vance and think of Trump. People see Harris and think of Biden. They can't shake those associations. Lesson to be learned- don't accept the VP offer from just anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Beshear/Warnock is my dream ticket


Listen to Beshear at 40:30 for about a minute. This is all he has to do all campaign cycle. I think the country is going to be shocked to hear from somebody that sounds Presidential again, particularly since we still have 2+ years of having to suffer Trump's anger, stupidity, and dementia.



That's my governor. 😍

40:30 was flat. Same old platitudes. If you put him in a line up of white guys in blue suits on then cusp between Gen X/Millenial, they’d be indistinguishable. He’s well liked and I’d vote for him if he’s the nominee, but there are more dynamic candidates. I want a candidate that stands at a podium and declares, the chaos ends now while holding up a gigantic Project 2028 book.
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Anonymous wrote:Beshear/Warnock is my dream ticket


Listen to Beshear at 40:30 for about a minute. This is all he has to do all campaign cycle. I think the country is going to be shocked to hear from somebody that sounds Presidential again, particularly since we still have 2+ years of having to suffer Trump's anger, stupidity, and dementia.



That's my governor. 😍

40:30 was flat. Same old platitudes. If you put him in a line up of white guys in blue suits on then cusp between Gen X/Millenial, they’d be indistinguishable. He’s well liked and I’d vote for him if he’s the nominee, but there are more dynamic candidates. I want a candidate that stands at a podium and declares, the chaos ends now while holding up a gigantic Project 2028 book.


That would be awful, awful political strategy. The Republicans would plant all kinds of lies into what that books contains. It's not as if the vast majority would read any of it. The collective Democrat candidate pool would have to run away from it all election. Just like Trump had to run away from Project 2025 during his campaign. Independents (those who decide the election) want boring, sane, and intelligent.
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Anonymous wrote:Josh Shapiro. AIPAC money controls the establishment democrats. He will lose


This, Democratic establishment wants an Israel first candidate and he'll be the perfect fit.


Isn’t that the current beef with Trump, he’s Israel first? So we just make the same mistakes again and again and then act all shocked when things are looking too familiar.


The dem establishment, corporate and consultant class are all in on Israel and AIPAC. They would rather throw the country over a cliff vs break with Israel. They will actually tell you that to your face. In the current climate that means the Dems can not win.

Maybe the progressive can break off to form a new party or something. Rahm Emanuel and Third Way are planning to spend 20 million against progressives because they do not support Israel. Everything go on and this is what the dems priority is.

We will have Tucker as president.


How are the Republicans to win then? They got us into a war with Iran in service to Israel. Facts will matter.


Facts matter? Facts haven’t mattered at all for a long time. Thus, Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:Beshear/Warnock is my dream ticket


Listen to Beshear at 40:30 for about a minute. This is all he has to do all campaign cycle. I think the country is going to be shocked to hear from somebody that sounds Presidential again, particularly since we still have 2+ years of having to suffer Trump's anger, stupidity, and dementia.



That's my governor. 😍

40:30 was flat. Same old platitudes. If you put him in a line up of white guys in blue suits on then cusp between Gen X/Millenial, they’d be indistinguishable. He’s well liked and I’d vote for him if he’s the nominee, but there are more dynamic candidates. I want a candidate that stands at a podium and declares, the chaos ends now while holding up a gigantic Project 2028 book.


That would be awful, awful political strategy. The Republicans would plant all kinds of lies into what that books contains. It's not as if the vast majority would read any of it. The collective Democrat candidate pool would have to run away from it all election. Just like Trump had to run away from Project 2025 during his campaign. Independents (those who decide the election) want boring, sane, and intelligent.


Agreed.
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Anonymous wrote:Josh Shapiro. AIPAC money controls the establishment democrats. He will lose


This, Democratic establishment wants an Israel first candidate and he'll be the perfect fit.


Isn’t that the current beef with Trump, he’s Israel first? So we just make the same mistakes again and again and then act all shocked when things are looking too familiar.


The dem establishment, corporate and consultant class are all in on Israel and AIPAC. They would rather throw the country over a cliff vs break with Israel. They will actually tell you that to your face. In the current climate that means the Dems can not win.

Maybe the progressive can break off to form a new party or something. Rahm Emanuel and Third Way are planning to spend 20 million against progressives because they do not support Israel. Everything go on and this is what the dems priority is.

We will have Tucker as president.


How are the Republicans to win then? They got us into a war with Iran in service to Israel. Facts will matter.


Facts matter? Facts haven’t mattered at all for a long time. Thus, Trump.


I would add that it would be nice if Dems could learn to use the current social media system to sell facts the way the GOP sells their lies. It’s sad. But you have to manipulate. Depending on people to read and think for themselves will not work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Starting in 2016, neither presidential candidate has been worthy of the office.
Granted, it’s still early, but it appears 2028 will offer more of the same.
It’s a disgrace that both parties put forth such pathetic candidates.
But that was the inevitable result when politics became such a cesspool that highly-qualified people, those with intelligence and integrity, i.e., the folks we’d actually want having a say in how our country operates, declined to seek even local offices.


Ok, but the democrats are sane. Your posts is complete nonsense and I’d love to know what motivates people you post things like this. Are you just trying to hurt voter turnout?
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Anonymous wrote:Josh Shapiro. AIPAC money controls the establishment democrats. He will lose


This, Democratic establishment wants an Israel first candidate and he'll be the perfect fit.


Isn’t that the current beef with Trump, he’s Israel first? So we just make the same mistakes again and again and then act all shocked when things are looking too familiar.


The dem establishment, corporate and consultant class are all in on Israel and AIPAC. They would rather throw the country over a cliff vs break with Israel. They will actually tell you that to your face. In the current climate that means the Dems can not win.

Maybe the progressive can break off to form a new party or something. Rahm Emanuel and Third Way are planning to spend 20 million against progressives because they do not support Israel. Everything go on and this is what the dems priority is.

We will have Tucker as president.


How are the Republicans to win then? They got us into a war with Iran in service to Israel. Facts will matter.


Facts matter? Facts haven’t mattered at all for a long time. Thus, Trump.


I would add that it would be nice if Dems could learn to use the current social media system to sell facts the way the GOP sells their lies. It’s sad. But you have to manipulate. Depending on people to read and think for themselves will not work.


Some are really good, but we need new democratic leadership to operationalize them.
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Anonymous wrote:I will never ever vote for Kamala Harris. Can’t stand her


Who cares. Would she be a good president is the question. And she would.


No. She is a blowhard with no original ideas and no real values other than self promotion. She threw Biden under the bus and wrote a book instead of stepping up and doing anything. I have never heard her say anything but boring platitudes.

Fwiw I voted for her.


I don’t care if she’s boring, I don’t care if she has original ideas. I care that she isn’t the current disaster we have in the White House.
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Anonymous wrote:The Dems are going to have to contend with either Vance or Rubio with perhaps a woman like Ana Paulina Luna or Tulsi Gabbard as VP.

Do not underestimate a Vance / Luna ticket. Southern states like GA and VA that Trump had trouble with it lost will be locks against most Dem candidates, Vance will be strong in the Rust Belt, and Luna will help with Hispanics in Nevada and Arizona.


It's going to be Vance and Erika Kirk. I don't even know how Luna is. See how that works?


If you don’t know who Ana Paulina Luna is you shouldn’t be offering your opinion about politics. Stop bragging about being ignorant.

I know who she is and she just invited the Russian Duma to the Capitol. Unfit AF.
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Anonymous wrote:Beshear/Warnock is my dream ticket


Listen to Beshear at 40:30 for about a minute. This is all he has to do all campaign cycle. I think the country is going to be shocked to hear from somebody that sounds Presidential again, particularly since we still have 2+ years of having to suffer Trump's anger, stupidity, and dementia.



That's my governor. 😍

40:30 was flat. Same old platitudes. If you put him in a line up of white guys in blue suits on then cusp between Gen X/Millenial, they’d be indistinguishable. He’s well liked and I’d vote for him if he’s the nominee, but there are more dynamic candidates. I want a candidate that stands at a podium and declares, the chaos ends now while holding up a gigantic Project 2028 book.


who are you hoping for?
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Anonymous wrote:Starting in 2016, neither presidential candidate has been worthy of the office.
Granted, it’s still early, but it appears 2028 will offer more of the same.
It’s a disgrace that both parties put forth such pathetic candidates.
But that was the inevitable result when politics became such a cesspool that highly-qualified people, those with intelligence and integrity, i.e., the folks we’d actually want having a say in how our country operates, declined to seek even local offices.


Ok, but the democrats are sane. Your posts is complete nonsense and I’d love to know what motivates people you post things like this. Are you just trying to hurt voter turnout?


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I keep hearing comments like this and I have to believe PPs are trolling. Take someone like Mark Kelly. Without question, he is "highly qualified" and has "intelligence and integrity." How is he pathetic or disgraceful???

So... what is it with you all? Every decent candidate is lame and every flashy candidate is part of the cesspool? You can't argue both that most candidates are pathetic, disgraceful, and manipulative and then suggest that a candidate needs to be <insert adjective like tall, handsome, smooth, Holywood actor, full of rizz>

At least, pick a lane.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Starting in 2016, neither presidential candidate has been worthy of the office.
Granted, it’s still early, but it appears 2028 will offer more of the same.
It’s a disgrace that both parties put forth such pathetic candidates.
But that was the inevitable result when politics became such a cesspool that highly-qualified people, those with intelligence and integrity, i.e., the folks we’d actually want having a say in how our country operates, declined to seek even local offices.


Ok, but the democrats are sane. Your posts is complete nonsense and I’d love to know what motivates people you post things like this. Are you just trying to hurt voter turnout?


+1

I keep hearing comments like this and I have to believe PPs are trolling. Take someone like Mark Kelly. Without question, he is "highly qualified" and has "intelligence and integrity." How is he pathetic or disgraceful???

So... what is it with you all? Every decent candidate is lame and every flashy candidate is part of the cesspool? You can't argue both that most candidates are pathetic, disgraceful, and manipulative and then suggest that a candidate needs to be <insert adjective like tall, handsome, smooth, Holywood actor, full of rizz>

At least, pick a lane.


I think it's partially MAGA hoping that the Democrats run somebody "flashy" that they can "wedge issue" against since they have absolutely no message to run on themselves.
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