Will Trump drop Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:Ha ha. I don’t know but I have been following that turd for years and it would be the funniest thing if they did.

Vance is so deserving of this ignominy.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No. He will make Vance withdraw by making up some reason like family. Then trump will choose Ted Cruz who also has no moral compass.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No. He will make Vance withdraw by making up some reason like family. Then trump will choose Ted Cruz who also has no moral compass.

"Hey Google, show me a picture of a GOP politician who everyone would believe would have sex with a couch, who isn't JD Vance!"

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is scaring Democrats - 16 pages of BS.

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Trump will drop him after the Dem convention.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said JD looks like a Duggar and I can’t unsee it.

Like the pedo son.

So calling a look alike to a pedo son is acceptable dialogue?

JD is the one who wrote he thought he was gay. And he’s the one who didn’t write about a single ex girlfriend from age 15 to 25. First girlfriend is a law classmate he met in his mid 20 and then he married? And he chose to seek out a notoriously degenerate gay billionaire to mentor him? It’s all very sus, as the kids say.

Again, being gay is one thing. He can be gay if he wants.

But calling someone a pedophile on this board is just as bad as calling Kamala a slut who slept with married men..

No one is calling him that but look how quickly you jumped in with your own tasteless slur. Which is surprising because that's what GOP does 24/7.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will drop him after the Dem convention.

Ooh that would be something. But I don’t think it would have the same effect as Biden’s post-RNC announcement.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone bothered to merely google the town he was actually raised in? It’s hardly some dire hellscape. It’s a perfectly normal and safe middle class suburb in Ohio. His mom was a straight A student and salutatorian on the high school. She became a nurse, his step-dad was a CDL truck driver, and the grandpa who allegedly helped raise him was a pensioned retired union rep.

Nothing about his bio is that bad. He’s a pathological lying worm.

Know a guy who grew up there. He described it as life-sucking boring and conforming. Banged up from deindustrialization, but not Appalachia.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will drop him after the Dem convention.

Ooh that would be something. But I don’t think it would have the same effect as Biden’s post-RNC announcement.

Depends on who he picks.. he needs to find a pro choice maga running mate if there is such a thing. If not he is toast.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

Forget looks. Kids are creeped out at his anti-women stuff. Yes, there are incels, but not every young guy out there is one.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

Forget looks. Kids are creeped out at his anti-women stuff. Yes, there are incels, but not every young guy out there is one.

+1. A very small number of gen Z have any interest to dance with Vance. The rest will turn that down in an instant.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And how would he appeal to the working class? He went to an Ivy League school and then went into a high-paid white collar job.

Um…because he grew up poor in a steel town in Ohio, then joined the Marines?

Being the child of a nurse and a CDL driver does not make him poor.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

Google Senator Eagleton

Thank you. So he could.

Well, that's what happened in '72. I'm not the PP of that, but I have no idea how this would work now. The GOP have made so many changes to their party practices to insulate/protect Trump in so many ways, that who knows what they've done to their rules/procedures and if they've driven into a cul de sac of their own making.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow that Thiel response was… amazing. He really did NOT want to endorse Vance.

What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:He can't at this point. The delegates have voted and there is no mechanism to change it.

Well on the other hand, it is the party of authoritarians, so I guess Trump will do whatever he wants, though dumping Trump puts Ohio and Appalachia in play.

His body may be aging, but Biden was the mastermind and played Mike Johnson. Remember the delay tactic? The proclamations that he wasn’t stepping down. Remember Obama telling Biden to step down before the RNC? Remember the media blitz? Remember Biden saying two weeks? All perfect delay tactics orchestrated by Biden, and the two men and one woman he trusted. On that Saturday evening, 3 men— Biden, his closest advisor, and his chief strategist worked late into the night. No one knew. First call Sunday morning was to Harris. Letter made public. A little later he endorsed Harris. She immediately hits the trail, and very well prepared. Plenty of time before DNC. She has more than enough delegates, endorsements, epic funding, and her name on the ballot before Ohio plays their silly deadline games. Johnson whining “we’ll litigate.” Not legally possible. That’s why they’re clamoring for Biden to leave office now. They’re going to try to manipulate. Not going to happen. You know what the GOP platform is? Block the other side. They have no policies. They don’t compromise. They don’t work. They threaten to shut down our government. This is their only platform. You know what else isn’t going to happen? Trump demanding a refund from RNC and Biden 😆. This will be Biden’s legacy.

Great summary of an expert execution of the plan, especially that the GOP has nothing - no vision, no substantive policy proposals for the benefit of working Americans, etc. What is the major GOP policy accomplishment since the Great Depression - NADA! The Dems have Social Security, Medicare/aid, and ACA. The GOP is only interested in privatizing profit and socializing risk - that's it!