What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

NP. I’m in California and police here actively discourage reporting of property crimes and certain assaults. I think the idea that crime is actually down is just gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

Then there is no need for more gun control.

How did the FBI find the Trump shooter's identity so quickly? The gun was registered and they were able to track down the owner in minutes. Would you prefer law enforcement is still trying to figure out his identity? Do you like it that Hunter Biden is being convicted for felony possession of a gun will using illegal drugs? Shouldn't others beyond Hunter have that restriction? What about the mentally ill, should they be able to obtain guns legally?

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

Here you go....and if you go off and say overall across the country it's down blah blah blah...I'll tell you I don't care. I care about where I live.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-crime-data-board-of-supervisors-steve-descano-virginia-state-police-assualt-theft-shoplifting-robberu-weapons

Crime data from the Virginia State Police shows a 25% increase in crimes against people and property between 2019 and 2023 in Fairfax County.

and your theory is... Joe Biden has been allowing the Fairfax County crime rate to increase?

No, that's not what I said...just disputing your post about crime going down since 2020. Not everything can be blamed on POTUS (regardless of who he his). When crime goes up it's not the POTUS alone who is to blame...but policies in place at all levels. It's become common now to witness shoplifting and see nothing be done. How can anyone be ok with this? This is not about Dem or Rep necessarily but rather the idiotic policies in place that have allowed this to be ok. I mean I might as well go down to Tysons now and go grab some really nice clothes and shoes and just walk out.

Criminals who don't get caught will continue their illegal activities and escalate to bigger crimes.

Please say more about that. You witnessed shoplifting? If so did you report it? You reported and the retailer ignored it?
Or are you making this up based on, idk, stuff in the NY Post?

Why on earth would I make this up? Do you not listen to or read local news??

Witnessed at Safeway by DH who told manager who said their hands were tied.
Witnessed by DD at Burlington (or maybe Marshalls, can't recall) who said nobody did anything after everyone witnessing.

Here you go...catch up please:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/arlington-lululemon-store-robbed-twice-in-two-hours/3654860/

Also, https://www.businessinsider.com/lululemon-employees-say-they-were-fired-reporting-robbery-to-police-2023-5

Apparently also an alarming trend where employees are fired for reporting -- which is why it's escalating.

Thefts have occurred forever.

I think you think that your second link shows that the Lulu Lemon employees were fired for calling the police, but you didn’t read the article. They filmed and interacted with the shoplifters, which is against store policy as that might have caused a physical escalation that could have resulted in staff or customers getting hurt. Which is pretty standard for companies: if you aren’t in Loss Prevention, you don’t prevent the loss except by watching people and alerting Loss Prevention. If you get shot on the job, you’re going to sue the store.

Wow, what a misinterpretation of the news.

Shoplifters were arrested in one of those links, police took reports in the other.

"We are not supposed to get in the way," Ferguson told the outlet. "You kind of clear path for whatever they're going to do. And then, after it's over, you scan a QR code. And that's that. We've been told not to put it in any notes, because that might scare other people. We're not supposed to call the police, not really supposed to talk about it."

Both women said they were fired over a Zoom call with regional Lululemon officials who said the company had a "zero tolerance policy" regarding the incident, 11Alive reported. The former employees said they are working through how to deal with the sudden firing financially, and hope Lululemon considers changing the policy.

A Lululemon spokesperson told Insider in a statement that the safety and security of its staffers and shoppers is a "top priority" and the company has "policies and protocols in place to uphold a safe environment."

Company policy shared with Insider indicates the women were likely fired for recording and interacting with the robbers, rather than for calling the police.

Lululemon said in a later, expanded statement that the two employees weren't fired for calling the police. "They were terminated for knowingly violating our zero-tolerance policy related to physically engaging with the perpetrators which put their lives and the safety of our guests and other employees at risk," the statement said.

If employees engage and they get injured or killed (or if customers are hurt or killed) the company is on the hook for worker's comp costs and possible lawsuits. Retail corporations tend to have strict policies about that. And in both cases the police became involved.

I'm not saying shoplifting isn't a problem, it is and always has been for at least 400 years and most likely before that.

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^^ I meant the previous PP, not the PP before me, sorry

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

Then there is no need for more gun control.

How did the FBI find the Trump shooter's identity so quickly? The gun was registered and they were able to track down the owner in minutes. Would you prefer law enforcement is still trying to figure out his identity? Do you like it that Hunter Biden is being convicted for felony possession of a gun will using illegal drugs? Shouldn't others beyond Hunter have that restriction? What about the mentally ill, should they be able to obtain guns legally?

Was it registered? Or was it based on the actual sale of the gun--that gets reported but is not the same thing, which is why I can sell you a gun person to person and that does not get reported.

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Anonymous wrote:They've gone from a party that was rooted in the working class to a party that has the appearance of an hourglass, with a lot of upscale voters and upper-middle class professionals, and a lot of voters who are not that well off, including a considerable number of minorities. But what's missing is a lot of what used to be the middle of the party, which is blue-collar workers, primarily white, Midwestern, and Southern.

https://time.com/6332506/democrats-2024-activist-left-elections/

They aren't missing. They live in each of the red states. But thanks to racists nativism, while they are aligned with their republican neighbors, their neighbors have bought the idea that the guy who uses a golden toilet actually cares about them

the reality is the GOP does NOTHING for the" little guy," other than get them mad at other "little guys" with different color skin and while the little guys are fighting it out, the billionaries rob the country blind.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

Here you go....and if you go off and say overall across the country it's down blah blah blah...I'll tell you I don't care. I care about where I live.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-crime-data-board-of-supervisors-steve-descano-virginia-state-police-assualt-theft-shoplifting-robberu-weapons

Crime data from the Virginia State Police shows a 25% increase in crimes against people and property between 2019 and 2023 in Fairfax County.

Hmmm, who has been governor for most of that time?

And do crime stats in one county in a big state mean that all counties in all states are up? No, of course not. In most of the country crime is down. Maybe ask why it went up while Youngkin was in charge?

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Anonymous wrote:Dems have pretty much handed populism to Trump . He had union leaders speaking for him at the RNC. That’s bad!

How are union leaders endorsing Republicans now? It makes no sense .

Please show the union leader who has endorsed Trump.

Head of the Teamsters spoke at the RNC. I had no interested in watching the RNC but saw clips on Jon Stewart. Although I'm not certain what happened when he started orating about shoring up laws to protect union organizing and labor unions.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

Here you go....and if you go off and say overall across the country it's down blah blah blah...I'll tell you I don't care. I care about where I live.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-crime-data-board-of-supervisors-steve-descano-virginia-state-police-assualt-theft-shoplifting-robberu-weapons

Crime data from the Virginia State Police shows a 25% increase in crimes against people and property between 2019 and 2023 in Fairfax County.

and your theory is... Joe Biden has been allowing the Fairfax County crime rate to increase?

No, that's not what I said...just disputing your post about crime going down since 2020. Not everything can be blamed on POTUS (regardless of who he his). When crime goes up it's not the POTUS alone who is to blame...but policies in place at all levels. It's become common now to witness shoplifting and see nothing be done. How can anyone be ok with this? This is not about Dem or Rep necessarily but rather the idiotic policies in place that have allowed this to be ok. I mean I might as well go down to Tysons now and go grab some really nice clothes and shoes and just walk out.

Criminals who don't get caught will continue their illegal activities and escalate to bigger crimes.

Please say more about that. You witnessed shoplifting? If so did you report it? You reported and the retailer ignored it?
Or are you making this up based on, idk, stuff in the NY Post?

Why on earth would I make this up? Do you not listen to or read local news??

Witnessed at Safeway by DH who told manager who said their hands were tied.
Witnessed by DD at Burlington (or maybe Marshalls, can't recall) who said nobody did anything after everyone witnessing.

Here you go...catch up please:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/arlington-lululemon-store-robbed-twice-in-two-hours/3654860/

Also, https://www.businessinsider.com/lululemon-employees-say-they-were-fired-reporting-robbery-to-police-2023-5

Apparently also an alarming trend where employees are fired for reporting -- which is why it's escalating.

And you theory is that... Joe Biden is working Lululemon's HR department and is firing people for reporting shoplifting?

I'm skeptical, but, uh... okay.

Getting tired of repeating myself....

No, that's not what I said...just disputing someone's post about crime going down since 2020. Not everything can be blamed on POTUS (regardless of who he his). When crime goes up it's not the POTUS alone who is to blame...but policies in place at all levels. It's become common now to witness shoplifting and see nothing be done. How can anyone be ok with this? This is not about Dem or Rep necessarily but rather the idiotic policies in place that have allowed this to be ok. I mean I might as well go down to Tysons now and go grab some really nice clothes and shoes and just walk out.

Criminals who don't get caught will continue their illegal activities and escalate to bigger crimes.

Nationally, crime is down.

It is clearly up in Farifax and DC (though DC is better in 2024)

Maybe that is local issue because the national trend is self-evident.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

NP. I’m in California and police here actively discourage reporting of property crimes and certain assaults. I think the idea that crime is actually down is just gaslighting.

If you know of police who are protecting criminals you should contact the FBI. Same if you know of fraud in crime reporting numbers—a lot of that is legally mandated and people should be investigated and charged if they're fiddling with it.

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Nationally, crime is down.

It is clearly up in Farifax and DC (though DC is better in 2024)only because 2024 is only half over, it is forecast to be up as well.

Maybe that is local issue because the national trend is self-evident.

OK - let's move on...we (myself included) deviated too far from the discussion topic

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Anonymous wrote:Dems have pretty much handed populism to Trump . He had union leaders speaking for him at the RNC. That’s bad!

How are union leaders endorsing Republicans now? It makes no sense .

Please show the union leader who has endorsed Trump.

Head of the Teamsters spoke at the RNC. I had no interested in watching the RNC but saw clips on Jon Stewart. Although I'm not certain what happened when he started orating about shoring up laws to protect union organizing and labor unions.

Speaking at the RNC is not an endorsement, and he specifically did not endorse. He was also booed while speaking there.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is going to win the working class voters because Democrats fail to understand that social policies and woke ideology makes them lose

Working class people need financial help with child care more than UMC people. They need tax credits for earned income and children. And believe it or not, some of them are LGBTQ or have kids, aunts, uncles, cousins--even grandparents (my nephew's wife, whose mom is married to a truck driver, has a grandma who came out in her 60s). The plumber doing work on my son's remodel is gay. Heck, the first gay person I knew (this was decades ago) was a blast furnace operator where my dad worked; he and his wife did couples dates with my parents before he got a divorced and found a partner in another coworker. LBGTQ is not, like, a luxury lifestyle option you buy from Tiffany's on your upscale income.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems have pretty much handed populism to Trump . He had union leaders speaking for him at the RNC. That’s bad!

How are union leaders endorsing Republicans now? It makes no sense .

Please show the union leader who has endorsed Trump.

Head of the Teamsters spoke at the RNC. I had no interested in watching the RNC but saw clips on Jon Stewart. Although I'm not certain what happened when he started orating about shoring up laws to protect union organizing and labor unions.

Speaking at the RNC is not an endorsement, and he specifically did not endorse. He was also booed while speaking there.

I wondered what happened with that!

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

NP. I’m in California and police here actively discourage reporting of property crimes and certain assaults. I think the idea that crime is actually down is just gaslighting.

The trend now is to not report crime. Even cops are told to be hands off . Crime is very underreported