What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

NP. I’m in California and police here actively discourage reporting of property crimes and certain assaults. I think the idea that crime is actually down is just gaslighting.

I live in a state where violent crime has skyrocketed in the last twelve months. Also robbery and mail theft. Those statistics are publicly viewable on local law enforcement websites.

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One of our local grocery stores is also closing next month due to a steep increase in ‘inventory loss’, the politically correct term for robbery.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.

Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.

You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?

Hahaha 😆 that's funny.

Might be funny, but it is true.

But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.

Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.

No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.

NP. I’m in California and police here actively discourage reporting of property crimes and certain assaults. I think the idea that crime is actually down is just gaslighting.

I live in a state where violent crime has skyrocketed in the last twelve months. Also robbery and mail theft. Those statistics are publicly viewable on local law enforcement websites.

Crime esp theft always increases with inflation . This is the first admin in history where crime rates miraculously dropped as inflation rates increased but they have no answer to as why more stores in major metro areas have items behind plexiglass boxes . If theft /crime isn’t a problem , why are the stores protecting their items? From carbon emissions ?

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According to the Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), more than half of crimes are never reported to the police. In 2022, the NCVS found that 48% of violent crimes and 31.8% of property crimes were reported to the police.

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The media and administration wants to pretend Trump is lying


Criminal aliens are increasingly seeking to exploit the wide-open Southwest border. Since the start of Fiscal Year (FY) 2021, the Border Patrol has recorded 43,674 arrests of illegal aliens with criminal backgrounds, a 99-percent increase from FY2017–20 combined. According to Border Patrol Chief Jason Owens, “hardened criminals often hide in smuggled migrant groups,” trying to take advantage of overwhelmed Border Patrol agents. By October 2023, agents were apprehending around 47 illegal aliens with “serious criminal histories” per day.

There are now more than 617,000 criminal illegal aliens on the Non-Detained Docket who have been released into our communities to await the outcome of their cases, up from 407,983 in January 2023.

And these are just the ones being caught. With thousands of agents pulled off the border to process and release illegal aliens in the United States, roughly 2 million aliens have entered the country uncaught, and are now at large in our communities — and we know nothing about their backgrounds or intentions.

One such gotaway, Juan Ariel Molina-Salles, entered the country at some point after October 2021. He would later strike and kill Pinellas County Sheriff’s Deputy Mike Hartwick on the streets of Florida in September 2022.

These ongoing surges across the border are leading to increases in criminal activity. One New York County official recently testified to the House Committee on Homeland Security, “We have seen an increase in crime, basically because you have these organized gangs that are part of the drug cartels from Mexico and other countries who have come to the metropolitan area.” He also noted that many crimes were being committed by illegal aliens to pay back debts incurred to the criminal cartels.

Sheriff Michael Bouchard of Oakland County, Mich., noted in 2023 a rising trend of residential thefts committed by “transnational gangs” exploiting the Southwest border. Sheriff Mark Dannels of Cochise County, Ariz., testified last year that “border-related crime” was “at an all-time high” in his county. According to one officer with the New York Police Department, in the wake of nearly 200,000 illegal aliens arriving in the Big Apple, “these migrants are getting arrested quite often here, and some of them are committing some of the most violent crimes here.”

The victims of these crimes are ordinary Americans — a teenager in southern Virginia sexually assaulted by an illegal alien earlier this year. A teenage girl in Prattville, Ala., sexually assaulted last May. Another police officer, struck and gruesomely injured during a traffic stop last August. Kayla Hamilton, a 20-year-old raped and killed by an illegal alien gang member in Maryland in July 2022.

All were crimes committed by illegal aliens released into the country on Secretary Mayorkas’s watch.

To make matters worse, under Secretary Mayorkas’s non-enforcement directives, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is not arresting as many criminal illegal aliens as prior administrations did. In FY2019, 86 percent of all administrative arrests were of criminal aliens, rising to 90 percent in FY2020. These numbers plummeted to just 32 percent in FY2022 and 43 percent in FY2023.

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Trump is going to win the working-class voters because Democrats fail to understand that social policies and woke ideology makes them lose

Trump winning or losing I think will all depend on who Harris picks for her VP.

That being said, current social policies and woke ideology is what has driven many to the right. It needs to be reined in a bit. Just take a look at all the attacks on JK Rowling. That is wrong IMHO and I have LGBTQ friends. I stand with JK Rowling, she has the right to her opinion and beliefs. That does not make her anti-LGBTQ.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Well said

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Trump is going to win the working-class voters because Democrats fail to understand that social policies and woke ideology makes them lose

Trump winning or losing I think will all depend on who Harris picks for her VP.

That being said, current social policies and woke ideology is what has driven many to the right. It needs to be reined in a bit. Just take a look at all the attacks on JK Rowling. That is wrong IMHO and I have LGBTQ friends. I stand with JK Rowling, she has the right to her opinion and beliefs. That does not make her anti-LGBTQ.

She shouldn’t be getting death threats, but her anti-LGTBQ beliefs are what make her anti-LGBTQ.

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Anonymous wrote:The media and administration wants to pretend Trump is lying


Criminal aliens are increasingly seeking to exploit the wide-open Southwest border. Since the start of Fiscal Year (FY) 2021, the Border Patrol has recorded 43,674 arrests of illegal aliens with criminal backgrounds, a 99-percent increase from FY2017–20 combined. According to Border Patrol Chief Jason Owens, “hardened criminals often hide in smuggled migrant groups,” trying to take advantage of overwhelmed Border Patrol agents. By October 2023, agents were apprehending around 47 illegal aliens with “serious criminal histories” per day.

There are now more than 617,000 criminal illegal aliens on the Non-Detained Docket who have been released into our communities to await the outcome of their cases, up from 407,983 in January 2023.

And these are just the ones being caught. With thousands of agents pulled off the border to process and release illegal aliens in the United States, roughly 2 million aliens have entered the country uncaught, and are now at large in our communities — and we know nothing about their backgrounds or intentions.

One such gotaway, Juan Ariel Molina-Salles, entered the country at some point after October 2021. He would later strike and kill Pinellas County Sheriff’s Deputy Mike Hartwick on the streets of Florida in September 2022.

These ongoing surges across the border are leading to increases in criminal activity. One New York County official recently testified to the House Committee on Homeland Security, “We have seen an increase in crime, basically because you have these organized gangs that are part of the drug cartels from Mexico and other countries who have come to the metropolitan area.” He also noted that many crimes were being committed by illegal aliens to pay back debts incurred to the criminal cartels.

Sheriff Michael Bouchard of Oakland County, Mich., noted in 2023 a rising trend of residential thefts committed by “transnational gangs” exploiting the Southwest border. Sheriff Mark Dannels of Cochise County, Ariz., testified last year that “border-related crime” was “at an all-time high” in his county. According to one officer with the New York Police Department, in the wake of nearly 200,000 illegal aliens arriving in the Big Apple, “these migrants are getting arrested quite often here, and some of them are committing some of the most violent crimes here.”

The victims of these crimes are ordinary Americans — a teenager in southern Virginia sexually assaulted by an illegal alien earlier this year. A teenage girl in Prattville, Ala., sexually assaulted last May. Another police officer, struck and gruesomely injured during a traffic stop last August. Kayla Hamilton, a 20-year-old raped and killed by an illegal alien gang member in Maryland in July 2022.

All were crimes committed by illegal aliens released into the country on Secretary Mayorkas’s watch.

To make matters worse, under Secretary Mayorkas’s non-enforcement directives, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is not arresting as many criminal illegal aliens as prior administrations did. In FY2019, 86 percent of all administrative arrests were of criminal aliens, rising to 90 percent in FY2020. These numbers plummeted to just 32 percent in FY2022 and 43 percent in FY2023.

This was written by Rep. Mark Green, a Republican from Tennessee who does not believe in dinosaurs.

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“It’s murder, but I’m okay with that” is a refreshingly honest thing to say.

I really just don't have the perspective that a swimming group of cells is a baby. Shoot me, but I just don't get the argument and have yet to have heard a non-religious one at that.

Babies are 5 1/2 inches long and 6 pounds at 18 weeks, and can be aborted according to the law in Roe. Hardly a “swimming group of cells.” Maher’s argument is a lot more honest than your gaslighting. The party that wants everyone to “trust the science” can’t also be the party to ignore the ultrasounds, MRIs, and other advanced imaging techniques.

You must think doctors are sicko murderers then. It's really that simple. Your version of "trusting science" is actively avoiding the issue at hand: there are many scientists who also just know its a clump of cells.

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I will respect moderates when they actually pull the Republicans in a little and make them adopt a moderate position for their party platform. Moderates always expect the most from Democrats (and recently just are too invested in the culture war to think about the good parts of the Democratic Party) and absolutely nothing at all from Republicans.

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Trump is going to win the working-class voters because Democrats fail to understand that social policies and woke ideology makes them lose

Trump winning or losing I think will all depend on who Harris picks for her VP.

That being said, current social policies and woke ideology is what has driven many to the right. It needs to be reined in a bit. Just take a look at all the attacks on JK Rowling. That is wrong IMHO and I have LGBTQ friends. I stand with JK Rowling, she has the right to her opinion and beliefs. That does not make her anti-LGBTQ.

She shouldn’t be getting death threats, but her anti-LGTBQ beliefs are what make her anti-LGBTQ.

Nope. We'll have to agree to disagree. Because saying you don't believe minors should get gender re-assignment surgery is not anti-LGBTQ. It's not anti-LGBTQ to personally not believe the different genders either - it's called freedom of religion and is a protected class to be equally protected. I respect LGBTQ and their beliefs but vice versa should also stand true.

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Anonymous wrote:I will respect moderates when they actually pull the Republicans in a little and make them adopt a moderate position for their party platform. Moderates always expect the most from Democrats (and recently just are too invested in the culture war to think about the good parts of the Democratic Party) and absolutely nothing at all from Republicans.

Not true - moderates, like myself, want Republicans to adopt a more moderate position on women's reproductive rights for example. On the flip side, we want Democrats to adopt a more moderate position on those social policies and woke ideologies. Not asking that much from Democrats, actually asking more from Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:I will respect moderates when they actually pull the Republicans in a little and make them adopt a moderate position for their party platform. Moderates always expect the most from Democrats (and recently just are too invested in the culture war to think about the good parts of the Democratic Party) and absolutely nothing at all from Republicans.

Not true - moderates, like myself, want Republicans to adopt a more moderate position on women's reproductive rights for example. On the flip side, we want Democrats to adopt a more moderate position on those social policies and woke ideologies. Not asking that much from Democrats, actually asking more from Republicans.

Woke ideologies isn't a policy. There is nothing you are saying other than "I don't like that your group is a bunch of wokies." Biden, who is the president of the united states and could've been in 2024 (not likely but potentially), has a long history of racism. I guess you can call Harris woke, cause she's a Black woman but she has a career of imprisoning Black men... I really don't see why moderates complain about the "woke" part of the party, because those are progressives who make up a few house members and none of the national agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:I will respect moderates when they actually pull the Republicans in a little and make them adopt a moderate position for their party platform. Moderates always expect the most from Democrats (and recently just are too invested in the culture war to think about the good parts of the Democratic Party) and absolutely nothing at all from Republicans.

Not true - moderates, like myself, want Republicans to adopt a more moderate position on women's reproductive rights for example. On the flip side, we want Democrats to adopt a more moderate position on those social policies and woke ideologies. Not asking that much from Democrats, actually asking more from Republicans.

Woke ideologies isn't a policy. There is nothing you are saying other than "I don't like that your group is a bunch of wokies." Biden, who is the president of the united states and could've been in 2024 (not likely but potentially), has a long history of racism. I guess you can call Harris woke, cause she's a Black woman but she has a career of imprisoning Black men... I really don't see why moderates complain about the "woke" part of the party, because those are progressives who make up a few house members and none of the national agenda.

The wokeness is mostly being implemented in state and local constituencies. We also see it in Congress though I don’t think anything’s been able to get through (although this will change if fringe numbers are allowed to grow). I’ll probably vote blue for the executive to stave off tyrannical authoritarianism, but I am going red everywhere else. And not because they’re the best for the job or representative of all my values (not even close), but because the alternative is that bad.