Student walkout

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.

Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.

Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.

Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.

Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.

I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…

LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.

FCPS wouldn’t need to arrest students who may walkout in defense of The Second Amendment because they already do a good job ridiculing and ostracizing such students, and by so doing, infringing on their right to even have a healthy and informed dialogue on the issue. If you don’t believe me, read the sentiment of the replies to your posting since they reflect the attitude, ignorance, and sense of entitlement of those who don’t believe the Constitution applies to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.

Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.

Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.

Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.

Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.

I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…

LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.

FCPS wouldn’t need to arrest students who may walkout in defense of The Second Amendment because they already do a good job ridiculing and ostracizing such students, and by so doing, infringing on their right to even have a healthy and informed dialogue on the issue. If you don’t believe me, read the sentiment of the replies to your posting since they reflect the attitude, ignorance, and sense of entitlement of those who don’t believe the Constitution applies to everyone.

How is having a rifle team and pointing that out ridiculing the second amendment? That is some twisted logic you are using there. No one is stopping it, there is a team. What do you want bring your gun to school day?

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Anonymous wrote:I had no idea kids were changing their pronouns or gender on a daily basis. Do the kids send out an email in the morning to let teachers/admin know or do you just find out in class when you misgender them?

Sorry to be confusing. I meant when the child doesn’t respond to the pronoun/name on a daily basis, it seems the expectation is that we need to email parents when this occurs each time.

Also, I since parents “need to know” every time you child goes to the bathroom we should follow them to make sure they are using the correct one.

If your kid mouths off during class, is overheard using a cuss word, makes a smirk. Parents SHOULD know. It could be a mental health issue. They could be angry and that can be a developmental, medical issue related to puberty.

Why is it only gender-related pronouns and names that parents NEED to know about?

Can’t have anything to do with changing social norms could it?

This proposal may be overkill but it was 100% brought on by direction being given to school staff to hide the gender transition / change information from parents.

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I don’t want my kid leading a double life. If he or she is presenting as a different sex at school than at home, that points to deeper mental issues and I would want to know about it. Same with any other type of illness, physical or mental.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my kid leading a double life. If he or she is presenting as a different sex at school than at home, that points to deeper mental issues and I would want to know about it. Same with any other type of illness, physical or mental.

Oh there are deep mental issues, but not with your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my kid leading a double life. If he or she is presenting as a different sex at school than at home, that points to deeper mental issues and I would want to know about it. Same with any other type of illness, physical or mental.

Or is your kid afraid to tell you who they really are....if yes then the issue isn't with them.

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What happens if teachers want to call students by their preferred name and pronouns?

At our children's school students are still calling trans students by their preferred names and pronouns. My kids have not even heard about the new policy.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if teachers want to call students by their preferred name and pronouns?

At our children's school students are still calling trans students by their preferred names and pronouns. My kids have not even heard about the new policy.

The policy isn't in effect yet. The public comment period on it starts tomorrow. But if and when it is in effect, under the current policy description, teachers are not allowed to call kids by the names they ask to be called unless they fit within the policy guidance on approved nickname variations OR a parent has written a note to be put into the official school record that affirms that the child's gender identity change is sincere and long-lasting.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my kid leading a double life. If he or she is presenting as a different sex at school than at home, that points to deeper mental issues and I would want to know about it. Same with any other type of illness, physical or mental.

Or is your kid afraid to tell you who they really are....if yes then the issue isn't with them.

I assume when they were younger, most of todays parents were openly smoking, drinking, taking drugs, or other experimentation in front of their parents right? Kids parties were totally chaperoned?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my kid leading a double life. If he or she is presenting as a different sex at school than at home, that points to deeper mental issues and I would want to know about it. Same with any other type of illness, physical or mental.

Or is your kid afraid to tell you who they really are....if yes then the issue isn't with them.

If your child is afraid to speak to you it’s not the teacher’s job to play parent. They refer them to the counselor, who works with the parents. If suspicions of abuse or neglect or negative effects from telling parents are feared then mandated reporter guidelines go into effect. CPS is called and handles it. Teachers are not parents. Teachers are not counselors. Teachers do not know everything about a student and their home life or parents. Teachers are not qualified to make these decisions for children. A teacher’s job is to teach.

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Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy

I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.

That would be hard to if the whole school is in on it. Our kids’ school principal is coordinating the thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy

I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.

That would be hard to if the whole school is in on it. Our kids’ school principal is coordinating the thing.

Which principal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy

I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.

That would be hard to if the whole school is in on it. Our kids’ school principal is coordinating the thing.

Which school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy

I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.

That would be hard to if the whole school is in on it. Our kids’ school principal is coordinating the thing.

Which principal?

Don’t fall for this. I’ve worked through many walkouts and there are always students who stay in class. I’ve rarely seen teachers walk out. It doesn’t matter the cause. Most of us want to keep our professional lives separate from political activism. Our administration said the last couple of walk outs at my school were student organized and led but they were very much supported by admin. I don’t know any teachers who joined in. There would never be a walk out where everyone went. If I’m ever told I need to participate in these at work I know it’s time to find another job.

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Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy

I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.

That would be hard to if the whole school is in on it. Our kids’ school principal is coordinating the thing.

Which principal?

Don’t fall for this. I’ve worked through many walkouts and there are always students who stay in class. I’ve rarely seen teachers walk out. It doesn’t matter the cause. Most of us want to keep our professional lives separate from political activism. Our administration said the last couple of walk outs at my school were student organized and led but they were very much supported by admin. I don’t know any teachers who joined in. There would never be a walk out where everyone went. If I’m ever told I need to participate in these at work I know it’s time to find another job.

But there is immense pressure on the kids to participate, especiwlly when there are teachers overtly pushing one particular ideology. For example, our high school has a history teacher who is notoriously partisan and very aggressive on social media. The students are afraid to engage in open dialogue in this teacher's class and will do anything to hide any thoughts that do not align with this teacher's particular ideology. There is concern about grades being penalized if the student does not tow the line, since history is a subjective class.

Any student who has a teacher like this particular teacher is going to feel immense pressure to walk out, whether or not they or their families support the walk out.

Fcps removing their controversial issues policy over pandemic did a tremendous disservice to teachers and destroyed the ability for students to have open and honest debate in their classes.

Under no circumstance should a student be aware of a teacher's political leanings, but fcps removing the controversial issues policy completely destroyed this.

While many parents appreciate teachers like you who keep private separate from teaching, you are on your way to becoming a minority in fcps, particularly with younger teachers.