Student walkout

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


DP. A "fringe" perspective that parents should not keep information about their kids from them (the parents)?? I think we've found the fringe element ^^^. Wow.


Sorry - meant to say it is in no way a "fringe perspective" that schools should share student information with parents.


The issue isn't "sharing information." Why do we need to coerce teachers who teach hundreds of students in a day to have to under threat of law keep track and report things kids have told them? Teachers teach and share the academic grades. They usually try not to get involved in the personal stuff. They need to engage with your kids in class so they ask them their name (not everyone likes to be called their full name so usually on the first day of class you just go through your roster and kids tell you the name they want to be called). Why don't you just ask your kid -- "what name are you called at school?" if you're worried about it. If you don't trust their answer, ask their teacher, "What name has my child been asked to be called at school?"
[b]We don't need a governor invading all our lives telling our kids what kinds of nicknames are okay and what are not and making everybody keep track of it all
when you can just talk to your kids and your kids' teachers if you are worried. It's like the people who are all up in arms about parent's rights don't actually want to do the work of being a parent.

Anything else is your responsibility.


This is more than nicknames and you know it. This is bout gender disphoria which is a medical issue. How many times have we seen on this forum that teachers are not medical professionals? They're not. [/b]Going along with an underage child's preferred names/pronouns when the child does not really have the condition (as decided with a medical professional) could cause a lot more mental harm to the student than good. [b]


Yes!!!
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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


How does this work? For example, if Robert wants to go by “Junior” or “JR” because that’s his nickname at home but not his birth name, his parents have to change it legally?



Not really cause it’s still a boy name.
But if he wanted to be called Roberta or something else then yes


That seems like the kind of discrimination that will get you sued. If Mary can go by her nickname, but Joe can not be called Jane then the policy is no facially neutral.


This is what that section says: (see 2 and 4)

D. Identification of students:
1. Every effort should be made to ensure that a transgender student wishing to change his or her means of address is treated with respect, compassion, and dignity in the classroom and school environment.

2. [School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only (i) the name that appears in the student’s official record, or (ii) if the student prefers, using any nickname commonly associated with the name that appears in the student’s official record.

3. [School Division] personnel shall refer to each student using only the pronouns appropriate to the sex appearing in the student’s official record - that is, male pronouns for a student whose legal sex is male, and female pronouns for a student whose legal sex is female.

4. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (2) and (3) of this section, [School Division] personnel shall refer to a student by a name other than one in the student’s official record, or by pronouns other than those appropriate to the sex appearing in the student’s official record, only if an eligible student or a student’s parent has instructed [School Division] in writing that such other name or other pronouns be used because of the student’s persistent and sincere belief that the student’s gender differs from his or her sex.

5. Any written instruction from a parent or eligible student under paragraph (4) of this section shall be memorialized in the student’s official record and subject to the same retention, disclosure, and confidentiality requirements as the official record itself. The legal name and sex of a student shall not be changed, even upon the written instruction of a parent or eligible student, except as specified in section (C)(2).

6. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (4) of this section, [School Division] shall not compel [School Division] personnel or other students to address or refer to students in any manner that would violate their constitutionally protected rights.

7. No policy, guidance, training, or other written material issued by the [School Division] may encourage or instruct teachers to conceal material information about a student from the student’s parent, including information related to gender.


Does this wording concern anyone?


Please share why it concerns you. That could help drive discussion.


“Every effort should be made to ensure that a transgender student wishing to change his or her means of address is treated with respect, compassion, and dignity” is not the same as, “Every student WILL be treated with respect, compassion and dignity”.

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Anonymous wrote:I will call my students what they ask me to call them, because that is a basic sign of respect and dignity.

If that gets me fired, so be it. It will be worth it compared to deadnaming a kid and knowing I am causing a kid pain every day.


Sorry, but you've stepped beyond your bounds.

It's not about respect and dignity. You're talking about a medical issue (mental health). That's an issue for parents with advise from a doctor.

Also keep this in mind:

Code of Virginia § 1-240.1. Rights of parents.
A parent has a fundamental right to make decisions concerning the upbringing, education, and care of the parent's child.

Or is there some obscure, alternate meaning to the word "fundamental" which you think the GA had in mind when it passed this law?

I’ve posted this before and I’ll do it again because it goes to the fundamental hypocrisy of this proposal—the language explicitly states a teacher DOES NOT have to follow the directive of the parent to use a chosen name or pronouns if the teacher feels it is in conflict with their values. That clause is proof that this is not about parents having the ultimate say in how their children are addressed or treated at school. This is not about parents’ rights, it’s about one group of adults demanding their values take precedence and drive policy.

Of course, there is a process that enables the school officials that believe that disclosing information about the child to parents would create a serious risk to the child's health, safety or well-being to go before a judge, see that guardian ad litem is appointed to represent the child's interests, and get an order from the court permitting non-disclosure or other needed measures, such as placing the child in foster care to avoid the bad home situation. Of course, at some point, the parents need notice and opportunity for a hearing to contest the action. That has nothing to do with "respect" though.
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I’ll the PP and my post got lost in the quote above. Here it is:
I’ve posted this before and I’ll do it again because it goes to the fundamental hypocrisy of this proposal—the language explicitly states a teacher DOES NOT have to follow the directive of the parent to use a chosen name or pronouns if the teacher feels it is in conflict with their values. That clause is proof that this is not about parents having the ultimate say in how their children are addressed or treated at school. This is not about parents’ rights, it’s about one group of adults demanding their values take precedence and drive policy.
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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


DP. A "fringe" perspective that parents should not keep information about their kids from them (the parents)?? I think we've found the fringe element ^^^. Wow.


Sorry - meant to say it is in no way a "fringe perspective" that schools should share student information with parents.


The issue isn't "sharing information." Why do we need to coerce teachers who teach hundreds of students in a day to have to under threat of law keep track and report things kids have told them? Teachers teach and share the academic grades. They usually try not to get involved in the personal stuff. They need to engage with your kids in class so they ask them their name (not everyone likes to be called their full name so usually on the first day of class you just go through your roster and kids tell you the name they want to be called). Why don't you just ask your kid -- "what name are you called at school?" if you're worried about it. If you don't trust their answer, ask their teacher, "What name has my child been asked to be called at school?"
[b]We don't need a governor invading all our lives telling our kids what kinds of nicknames are okay and what are not and making everybody keep track of it all
when you can just talk to your kids and your kids' teachers if you are worried. It's like the people who are all up in arms about parent's rights don't actually want to do the work of being a parent.

Anything else is your responsibility.


This is more than nicknames and you know it. This is bout gender disphoria which is a medical issue. How many times have we seen on this forum that teachers are not medical professionals? They're not. [/b]Going along with an underage child's preferred names/pronouns when the child does not really have the condition (as decided with a medical professional) could cause a lot more mental harm to the student than good. [b]


Yes!!!


How does translate into the classroom?
You probably dont’ want to think about that because it would make the issue real.

Logistically if kids refuse to answer a teacher if the teacher doesn’t use a nickname how does that work well fo the student?

Do you expect teachers of 120+ children to email you every time the kid doesn’t respond?

Then allow for more taxes so teachers have 2 allotted planning blocks to email you about your child.

Convince people to teach in this environment.


I do think that as influencers take over the teen market, teen girls don’t see themselves reflected in the eyelash extensions etc that get people noticed online.

Have you taken your kids phone away to help?

Maybe what we actually need is a rule that no phones are allowed until 18. No insta, no social media etc. until you are 18.

That would change a lot.



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I had no idea kids were changing their pronouns or gender on a daily basis. Do the kids send out an email in the morning to let teachers/admin know or do you just find out in class when you misgender them?
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Anonymous wrote:I had no idea kids were changing their pronouns or gender on a daily basis. Do the kids send out an email in the morning to let teachers/admin know or do you just find out in class when you misgender them?


Sorry to be confusing. I meant when the child doesn’t respond to the pronoun/name on a daily basis, it seems the expectation is that we need to email parents when this occurs each time.

Also, I since parents “need to know” every time you child goes to the bathroom we should follow them to make sure they are using the correct one.

If your kid mouths off during class, is overheard using a cuss word, makes a smirk. Parents SHOULD know. It could be a mental health issue. They could be angry and that can be a developmental, medical issue related to puberty.

Why is it only gender-related pronouns and names that parents NEED to know about?

Can’t have anything to do with changing social norms could it?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


They don’t need to, no one has taken away any gun rights. The high school my kids will go to has a freaking rifle team. What do you need to protest?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


No they wouldn’t.
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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


DP. A "fringe" perspective that parents should not keep information about their kids from them (the parents)?? I think we've found the fringe element ^^^. Wow.


Sorry - meant to say it is in no way a "fringe perspective" that schools should share student information with parents.


The issue isn't "sharing information." Why do we need to coerce teachers who teach hundreds of students in a day to have to under threat of law keep track and report things kids have told them? Teachers teach and share the academic grades. They usually try not to get involved in the personal stuff. They need to engage with your kids in class so they ask them their name (not everyone likes to be called their full name so usually on the first day of class you just go through your roster and kids tell you the name they want to be called). Why don't you just ask your kid -- "what name are you called at school?" if you're worried about it. If you don't trust their answer, ask their teacher, "What name has my child been asked to be called at school?"
[b]We don't need a governor invading all our lives telling our kids what kinds of nicknames are okay and what are not and making everybody keep track of it all
when you can just talk to your kids and your kids' teachers if you are worried. It's like the people who are all up in arms about parent's rights don't actually want to do the work of being a parent.

Anything else is your responsibility.


This is more than nicknames and you know it. This is bout gender disphoria which is a medical issue. How many times have we seen on this forum that teachers are not medical professionals? They're not. [/b]Going along with an underage child's preferred names/pronouns when the child does not really have the condition (as decided with a medical professional) could cause a lot more mental harm to the student than good. [b]


Yes!!!


How does translate into the classroom?
You probably dont’ want to think about that because it would make the issue real.

Logistically if kids refuse to answer a teacher if the teacher doesn’t use a nickname how does that work well fo the student?

Do you expect teachers of 120+ children to email you every time the kid doesn’t respond?

Then allow for more taxes so teachers have 2 allotted planning blocks to email you about your child.

Convince people to teach in this environment.


I do think that as influencers take over the teen market, teen girls don’t see themselves reflected in the eyelash extensions etc that get people noticed online.

Have you taken your kids phone away to help?

Maybe what we actually need is a rule that no phones are allowed until 18. No insta, no social media etc. until you are 18.

That would change a lot.





I get your point but I laughed out loud at two planning times.... I can barely get my one a day.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


They don’t need to, no one has taken away any gun rights. The high school my kids will go to has a freaking rifle team. What do you need to protest?


WTH in FCPS?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


Shouldn’t you be freaking out over a black mermaid right now?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


They don’t need to, no one has taken away any gun rights. The high school my kids will go to has a freaking rifle team. What do you need to protest?


WTH in FCPS?


It is a marksmanship team.

Fcps had the first Olympic gold medal for USA a few years back. She was the West Springfield HS rifle team captain.

It is a very well run program.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn’t be “experimenting” with gender identity at school and teachers shouldn’t be encouraging it. School is for academics. Let’s keep the focus where it needs to be.


Teachers aren't "encouraging" anything related to gender identity other than respect for all.

A teacher willingly calling a child by the name that child states is preferred is not encouraging exploration of gender identity; it is respect.

-- If William goes by "Quinn" because he happens to be William V and "Quinn" is close to "quint," meaning "five," the teacher should call him "Quinn," and should not ask why he goes by Quinn.

-- If Hye Min goes by "Kristin" because she is embarrassed that her given name, in English, sounds similar to a part of anatomy, the teacher should call her "Kristin," and should not ask why she chooses to be called Kristin.

-- If Carson wants to go by their middle name-- Lee-- at school because there are two other Carsons in class, the teacher should call that student "Lee" and should not ask why "Lee" is the preferred name.

-- If Quoc asks to be called "Joey" because he worries that his legal name, in English, sounds like a vulgar word for anatomy, the teacher should call him "Joey."

-- If Juan wants to go by "Jan" at school, the teacher should call them "Jan."

-- If Leslie wants to be called "Les," the teacher should use the name "Les" when referring to that child.

-- If Alexander and Alexandra both go by "Alex," the teacher should call them both "Alex."

-- If Richard goes by "Skip," the teacher should call him "Skip."

I cannot imagine that there is any teacher out there stating "Let's explore our gender identity" in class, nor can I imagine that any teacher is asking students to explain why they use a nickname or alternative name. Instead, most (if not all) teachers ask students on the first day, "Please correct me if I am mispronouncing your name or if you go by something other than the name on my official roster." What could possibly be wrong with that? That is respectful. It is not political, nor is it taking power away from parents.

Secondary teachers have 130-200 students each, and it is likely that close to half of those children use a nickname or alternative name (For example,, many students from East Asia or Southeast Asia choose to use an "American" name at school.) It is not feasible to go check the file of every student who asks to be called a different name to see if the parents approve of that name choice.


Actually, at leaston one fcps high school teacher is encouraging and pressuring students to embrace this issue and participate in a protest during school hours.


Great. Civic engagement is important.

The GOP should realize that they are incentivizing a whole new batch of voters to GOTV.


Sure, civic engagement is important - on your own time. Schools should be discouraging these "protests" and focused on their core mission of education.


I’m sure y’all would be fine if they engaged in a pro-2A demonstration…


LOL, if any students ever held a pro Second Amendment demonstration, those kids would immediately be suspended and probably arrested. It's clear that FCPS only supports liberal protests on school time.


They don’t need to, no one has taken away any gun rights. The high school my kids will go to has a freaking rifle team. What do you need to protest?


WTH in FCPS?


It is a marksmanship team.

Fcps had the first Olympic gold medal for USA a few years back. She was the West Springfield HS rifle team captain.

It is a very well run program.


Do people not know that it's a NCAA sport? Sometimes I'm shocked at how little DCUM knows outside their little bubble.
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