Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

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Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.



The only immigrants I object to are ILLEGAL immigrants. They could be purple, for all I care. But it sure is amusing watching you trot out your "racism!" card over and over.


DP...

A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum, which puts your "I object to illegal immigrants" argument into question.

And then you and the Republicans refuse to invest in the resources needed to actually process their asylum claims to determine whether they are legitimate or not.

And then you refuse to work on any solution toward making the many workers in restaurants, in construction, in hotels and elsewhere legal by making visas available to them.

So it's not really about "illegal"

How about instead of shrieking about "illegals" and doing nothing but accusing Democrats of being insane, you actually start actually thinking about some of these realities?


A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are FALSELY claiming asylum - you know this, I know this, we ALL know this. Instead of more resources for "processing," we only need to have a fleet of buses waiting, ready to return them to the countries they came from. Or at the very least, the FIRST safe country they came to, which was definitely not the US.

How about you and your fellow Democrats think about THAT reality, instead of demanding more money for useless processing - oh, and also demanding amnesty for the illegal immigrants *already* in the country?

Because that’s not the way the law works, genius.

That’s why the Democrats wanted to up the numbers of people to process them and send home all the people who are not truly asylum seekers, but the GOP doesn’t want to stop the flow of cheap workers who undercut American workers and they for sure don’t want bigots like you to have a reason to stop whining. They’ve got you right where they want you and boy are you happy to be there.


Interesting take, especially the way you've completely excluded Democrats from any culpability in this mess - which is ENTIRELY Biden's fault.
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Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.



The only immigrants I object to are ILLEGAL immigrants. They could be purple, for all I care. But it sure is amusing watching you trot out your "racism!" card over and over.


DP...

A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum, which puts your "I object to illegal immigrants" argument into question.

And then you and the Republicans refuse to invest in the resources needed to actually process their asylum claims to determine whether they are legitimate or not.

And then you refuse to work on any solution toward making the many workers in restaurants, in construction, in hotels and elsewhere legal by making visas available to them.

So it's not really about "illegal"

How about instead of shrieking about "illegals" and doing nothing but accusing Democrats of being insane, you actually start actually thinking about some of these realities?


A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are FALSELY claiming asylum - you know this, I know this, we ALL know this. Instead of more resources for "processing," we only need to have a fleet of buses waiting, ready to return them to the countries they came from. Or at the very least, the FIRST safe country they came to, which was definitely not the US.

How about you and your fellow Democrats think about THAT reality, instead of demanding more money for useless processing - oh, and also demanding amnesty for the illegal immigrants *already* in the country?

Because that’s not the way the law works, genius.

That’s why the Democrats wanted to up the numbers of people to process them and send home all the people who are not truly asylum seekers, but the GOP doesn’t want to stop the flow of cheap workers who undercut American workers and they for sure don’t want bigots like you to have a reason to stop whining. They’ve got you right where they want you and boy are you happy to be there.


Interesting take, especially the way you've completely excluded Democrats from any culpability in this mess - which is ENTIRELY Biden's fault.


No, it's not ENTIRELY Biden's fault. We've been through all that a hundred times over in this thread. Do the Dems and Biden have some cupability? Absolutely. BUT... It's also the fault of the GOP for not helping deal with processing whether they are legitimate asylum seekers or not, it's also the fault of the GOP for not helping with port inspections which is the real way that most of the fentanyl is coming in, it is the fault of the GOP for basically taking a bad situation and broken immigration and asylum laws and making them even worse by not letting the Dems do anything either.
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Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.



The only immigrants I object to are ILLEGAL immigrants. They could be purple, for all I care. But it sure is amusing watching you trot out your "racism!" card over and over.


DP...

A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum, which puts your "I object to illegal immigrants" argument into question.

And then you and the Republicans refuse to invest in the resources needed to actually process their asylum claims to determine whether they are legitimate or not.

And then you refuse to work on any solution toward making the many workers in restaurants, in construction, in hotels and elsewhere legal by making visas available to them.

So it's not really about "illegal"

How about instead of shrieking about "illegals" and doing nothing but accusing Democrats of being insane, you actually start actually thinking about some of these realities?

HR2 which requires e-verify is sitting in the senate and has been for weeks.


Democrats refuse to shutdown the pipeline of cheap labor. They hate , hate US workers

There is no other explanation for refusing to mandate e-verify


This. Interesting that the PP neglected to mention the huge role Democrats play in this disgusting mess.

It’s so incredibly sad that neither of you understands that it’s the GOP that is the cause of this. They won’t address it. They block all work on it. You are being used.


Ooh, now tell us about Joe Biden reversing 99% of Trump's border initiatives on his first day in office. And Biden telling the world he promised a "kinder, gentler new immigration policy," urging migrants to show up at our border. Remember when he said he wouldn't be building "another foot of border wall"? How did that work out for us?

To claim that "the GOP is the cause of this," while completely ignoring ALL of the factors Biden is fully responsible for, just outs you as a gaslighter (at best) or - more likely - a liar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why Congress is considering a massive "border security" funding bill that does not include significant policy changes. Additional supplemental funding will not solve the border crisis, it will just make it easier for the Biden administration to manage the crisis its failed policies have created. This additional funding is intended to allow them to manage the situation better by processing illegal economic migrants more quickly so they can be released into the U.S. in higher numbers. Unfortunately, allowing illegal aliens to enter the U.S. more quickly will only exacerbate the problem by encouraging more illegal economic migrants to cross the border and make fraudulent asylum claims.

The best way to end the border crisis is to change the underlying policy. The House-passed H.R. 2, the Secure the Border Act, would make these changes and finally end the crisis at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Every policy change enacted by the White House has led to an increase in illegal immigration and an increase of the chaos at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Democrats - Please pass H.R. 2 to end the chaos and restore sanity and legality to our immigration system.


+ a million
We don't need more bodies "processing" people. We need a policy that will end the masses of migrants coming to our border in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.


OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?


Exactly. Liberals love to conflate legal and *illegal* immigrants, as if they're the same group. They are not.


Uhh it's the right wing that CONSTANTLY conflates "migrants LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum" with "ThEY aRE iLLeGaLS!!!"
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why Congress is considering a massive "border security" funding bill that does not include significant policy changes. Additional supplemental funding will not solve the border crisis, it will just make it easier for the Biden administration to manage the crisis its failed policies have created. This additional funding is intended to allow them to manage the situation better by processing illegal economic migrants more quickly so they can be released into the U.S. in higher numbers. Unfortunately, allowing illegal aliens to enter the U.S. more quickly will only exacerbate the problem by encouraging more illegal economic migrants to cross the border and make fraudulent asylum claims.

The best way to end the border crisis is to change the underlying policy. The House-passed H.R. 2, the Secure the Border Act, would make these changes and finally end the crisis at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Every policy change enacted by the White House has led to an increase in illegal immigration and an increase of the chaos at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Democrats - Please pass H.R. 2 to end the chaos and restore sanity and legality to our immigration system.


+ a million
We don't need more bodies "processing" people. We need a policy that will end the masses of migrants coming to our border in the first place.


The law is what it is. If the Republicans really don't like it then they should find a way to change it. But they aren't.
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All of the people who said "BUILD THE WALL! Israel has a wall, WALLS WORK!" right now, after Hamas waltzed through Israel's walls...

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why Congress is considering a massive "border security" funding bill that does not include significant policy changes. Additional supplemental funding will not solve the border crisis, it will just make it easier for the Biden administration to manage the crisis its failed policies have created. This additional funding is intended to allow them to manage the situation better by processing illegal economic migrants more quickly so they can be released into the U.S. in higher numbers. Unfortunately, allowing illegal aliens to enter the U.S. more quickly will only exacerbate the problem by encouraging more illegal economic migrants to cross the border and make fraudulent asylum claims.

The best way to end the border crisis is to change the underlying policy. The House-passed H.R. 2, the Secure the Border Act, would make these changes and finally end the crisis at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Every policy change enacted by the White House has led to an increase in illegal immigration and an increase of the chaos at the U.S. - Mexico border.

Democrats - Please pass H.R. 2 to end the chaos and restore sanity and legality to our immigration system.


+ a million
We don't need more bodies "processing" people. We need a policy that will end the masses of migrants coming to our border in the first place.


HR 2 misses the mark on several points

https://immigrationforum.org/article/bill-analysis-the-secure-the-border-act-of-2023/
Anonymous
Public support for migration is dropping fast in many countries, admits the pro-migration USNews.

But donors, Wall St., progressives & biz have hired an army of lobbyists & media to bulldoze the citizenry.
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Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.



The only immigrants I object to are ILLEGAL immigrants. They could be purple, for all I care. But it sure is amusing watching you trot out your "racism!" card over and over.


DP...

A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum, which puts your "I object to illegal immigrants" argument into question.

And then you and the Republicans refuse to invest in the resources needed to actually process their asylum claims to determine whether they are legitimate or not.

And then you refuse to work on any solution toward making the many workers in restaurants, in construction, in hotels and elsewhere legal by making visas available to them.

So it's not really about "illegal"

How about instead of shrieking about "illegals" and doing nothing but accusing Democrats of being insane, you actually start actually thinking about some of these realities?


A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are FALSELY claiming asylum - you know this, I know this, we ALL know this. Instead of more resources for "processing," we only need to have a fleet of buses waiting, ready to return them to the countries they came from. Or at the very least, the FIRST safe country they came to, which was definitely not the US.

How about you and your fellow Democrats think about THAT reality, instead of demanding more money for useless processing - oh, and also demanding amnesty for the illegal immigrants *already* in the country?

Because that’s not the way the law works, genius.

That’s why the Democrats wanted to up the numbers of people to process them and send home all the people who are not truly asylum seekers, but the GOP doesn’t want to stop the flow of cheap workers who undercut American workers and they for sure don’t want bigots like you to have a reason to stop whining. They’ve got you right where they want you and boy are you happy to be there.


Interesting take, especially the way you've completely excluded Democrats from any culpability in this mess - which is ENTIRELY Biden's fault.


No, it's not ENTIRELY Biden's fault. We've been through all that a hundred times over in this thread. Do the Dems and Biden have some cupability? Absolutely. BUT... It's also the fault of the GOP for not helping deal with processing whether they are legitimate asylum seekers or not, it's also the fault of the GOP for not helping with port inspections which is the real way that most of the fentanyl is coming in, it is the fault of the GOP for basically taking a bad situation and broken immigration and asylum laws and making them even worse by not letting the Dems do anything either.


DP. It really is simple. Tell the people that their processing is going to be long and hellish and PROVE IT - then, they gradually stop coming. No other solution works. If they have apps, can wait in comfort, and be released into the country asap - they will keep coming.
They know gullible Americans will let them through.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.



The only immigrants I object to are ILLEGAL immigrants. They could be purple, for all I care. But it sure is amusing watching you trot out your "racism!" card over and over.


DP...

A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum, which puts your "I object to illegal immigrants" argument into question.

And then you and the Republicans refuse to invest in the resources needed to actually process their asylum claims to determine whether they are legitimate or not.

And then you refuse to work on any solution toward making the many workers in restaurants, in construction, in hotels and elsewhere legal by making visas available to them.

So it's not really about "illegal"

How about instead of shrieking about "illegals" and doing nothing but accusing Democrats of being insane, you actually start actually thinking about some of these realities?


A huge percentage of the people coming to the border are FALSELY claiming asylum - you know this, I know this, we ALL know this. Instead of more resources for "processing," we only need to have a fleet of buses waiting, ready to return them to the countries they came from. Or at the very least, the FIRST safe country they came to, which was definitely not the US.

How about you and your fellow Democrats think about THAT reality, instead of demanding more money for useless processing - oh, and also demanding amnesty for the illegal immigrants *already* in the country?


Unfortunately, I think the only solution is to end all asylum processes. It's clearly rife with abuse.

DP.
Or make it slow and not fun. Keep everyone in Mexico (no free food). Process them slowly. Continue to offer free tickets home.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see there are still people thinking it’s all good and there is so much benefit from all those millions flowing in. It’s so cute!


Yep. LWNJs really are one-of-a-kind in their sheer cognitive dissonance and constant gaslighting. "It's all good! You must be a racist to object to millions of illegal immigrants flowing over the border!"


You're a racist because the only immigrants you object to are brown.

And your entire way of life depends on cheap labor, so you might want to rethink your racism.


DP but I object to all immigrants who come through US borders without a visa. Blue or green or brown.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.


OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?


Exactly. Liberals love to conflate legal and *illegal* immigrants, as if they're the same group. They are not.


Uhh it's the right wing that CONSTANTLY conflates "migrants LEGALLY presenting themselves for asylum" with "ThEY aRE iLLeGaLS!!!"


The vast majority of migrants presenting themselves for asylum this way do not have a legitimate asylum claim that would stand up in court. So, while that does not make them illegal, they are only here because our system is overwhelmed by their numbers so they are being let in with no real possibility of being deported.
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Anonymous wrote:All of the people who said "BUILD THE WALL! Israel has a wall, WALLS WORK!" right now, after Hamas waltzed through Israel's walls...



Planned bulldozing of a FENCE.
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