shared family beach house - issue with damaged item

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Anonymous wrote:This is penny wise and pound foolish as the aunt could start charging you rent the week you stay.

No l, she can’t. OP’s FIL is an equal owner of the house and he can let his son and son’s family stay for free.

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Anonymous wrote:The aunt who is “butting in” is an OWNER of a house you were a GUEST at. Any stuff you leave there is HER property along with the other co-owners. The rules are HERS along with the co-owners to enforce, not yours. I think you guys are going to get voted out of the beach house and that 275 board is about to be very expensive. But hey you stuck to your guns and got you $100 bucks!

You embarrass yourself by not reading the thread. Op’s father is also a co-owner.

Umm no the aunt can and should veto them from the guest list no matter what the other co-owners want. No one is allowed to have guests unless all co-owners agree on them. The entitlement of op is ASTOUNDING. They are guests who think they are owners. You don’t store your property on someone else’s house and then demand reimbursement for its damage.

yea, that would work out great in practice- Aunt, "I veto nephew and his awful family" FIL, "OK aunt, I veto your kids." And then you have a family beach house that no one can use

…well, YES, dear. That’s how it works. When co-owners can no longer agree on things like guests, you SELL, you buy someone out, or you go to a no-guests-whatsoever policy. That’s how it goes.

And if guests don’t want that to happen, perhaps they shouldn’t act in an entitled and absurd manner over a used boogie board.

Yeah, that isn’t how this will go.

Oh really, do tell. How interesting that OP’s FIL (or another co-owner of this property) has found this board.

My view is based on my mom and her siblings co-owning a large lake property, managing it for decades, and ultimately selling it. What is your view based on?

Yes. So very interesting that OP’s FIL has found this board. That is exactly what has happened.

This is the most intellectually lazy comment out there. "Someone disagrees with me, so they must have a personal stake in the discussion. Obviously, an impartial party would *have* to agree with me."
Be better, PP. If you can.

[Anonymous]

Leave it to DCUM to remind us yet again how entitled and disrespectful people are. What about basic respect for someone else’s property? If my child or my guest broke something, I would replace it, and I wouldn’t start out with some BS depreciation offer that I pulled outta my butt. Instead, the DCUM apologists go off on the cost of the boogie board, who owns the house, whether or not OP should leave something there, etc. That’s not the point. It’s not like these are random family members. Have the same respect for OP and her possessions that you’re demanding she have for the cousin. They’re both permitted to use the place and leave things there, per house rules. Or do you people all just assume the rules aren’t ever meant for you?

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Anonymous wrote:This is penny wise and pound foolish as the aunt could start charging you rent the week you stay.

No l, she can’t. OP’s FIL is an equal owner of the house and he can let his son and son’s family stay for free.

That’s if and only if all co-owners agree to continue allowing guests at all.

I co-own a vacation property, and if any of my relatives were acting up and causing drama, I’d go to the co-owners and say, here are the choices: we sell, you buy me out, or we stop allowing visitors altogether. Take your pick, majority vote wins.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the owners is my husband's father. The other 2 owners are the dads brother and sister (cousin's mom).
The boogie board was $275.
The child that broke the board wasn't staying at the house, but they were all at the beach at the same time.
We have other things at the house that we allow others to use and these are in the main shed or in the house. I disagree with some of you about just letting this go. The rules of the house were clear. We have not had issues in the past 12 years that we have been using it. If it was me who damaged something, I'd replace it, and we did this once when we bought a new beach umbrella when the old one another cousin contributed broke as I was opening it.
Glad the cousin finally agreed to compensate us and annoyed his mom is getting in the middle.

If you can afford $275 for a goddamned boogie board for a kid you can also afford to not sweat this. Holy Moses.

tell that to the thousands on welfare that own iphones

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Anonymous wrote:The aunt who is “butting in” is an OWNER of a house you were a GUEST at. Any stuff you leave there is HER property along with the other co-owners. The rules are HERS along with the co-owners to enforce, not yours. I think you guys are going to get voted out of the beach house and that 275 board is about to be very expensive. But hey you stuck to your guns and got you $100 bucks!

You embarrass yourself by not reading the thread. Op’s father is also a co-owner.

Umm no the aunt can and should veto them from the guest list no matter what the other co-owners want. No one is allowed to have guests unless all co-owners agree on them. The entitlement of op is ASTOUNDING. They are guests who think they are owners. You don’t store your property on someone else’s house and then demand reimbursement for its damage.

yea, that would work out great in practice- Aunt, "I veto nephew and his awful family" FIL, "OK aunt, I veto your kids." And then you have a family beach house that no one can use

…well, YES, dear. That’s how it works. When co-owners can no longer agree on things like guests, you SELL, you buy someone out, or you go to a no-guests-whatsoever policy. That’s how it goes.

And if guests don’t want that to happen, perhaps they shouldn’t act in an entitled and absurd manner over a used boogie board.

Yeah, that isn’t how this will go.

Oh really, do tell. How interesting that OP’s FIL (or another co-owner of this property) has found this board.

My view is based on my mom and her siblings co-owning a large lake property, managing it for decades, and ultimately selling it. What is your view based on?

Yes. So very interesting that OP’s FIL has found this board. That is exactly what has happened.

This is the most intellectually lazy comment out there. "Someone disagrees with me, so they must have a personal stake in the discussion. Obviously, an impartial party would *have* to agree with me."
Be better, PP. If you can.

You’ll note that what kicked off this line of argument was the DECLARATIVE STATEMENT of “that isn’t how this will go.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it was petty and penny-pinching to insist on full cost replacement and would have been more graceful to tell the cousin not to worry about it. But then it was also petty and penny-pinching to assign depreciation of 50%. So in classic DCUM fashion everyone in this story sucks.

This!!

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to remind us yet again how entitled and disrespectful people are. What about basic respect for someone else’s property? If my child or my guest broke something, I would replace it, and I wouldn’t start out with some BS depreciation offer that I pulled outta my butt. Instead, the DCUM apologists go off on the cost of the boogie board, who owns the house, whether or not OP should leave something there, etc. That’s not the point. It’s not like these are random family members. Have the same respect for OP and her possessions that you’re demanding she have for the cousin. They’re both permitted to use the place and leave things there, per house rules. Or do you people all just assume the rules aren’t ever meant for you?[/quo

100% this. the entitlement on this thread is disgusting. OP has every right to have the boogie board replaced.
and for those questioning the cost. my son has a $300 boogie board. Night and day compared to a $30 version.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d bet $20 bucks that the cousin not the friends kid broke it or even stole it.

Agree. It’s not cracked, it’s disappeared.

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to remind us yet again how entitled and disrespectful people are. What about basic respect for someone else’s property? If my child or my guest broke something, I would replace it, and I wouldn’t start out with some BS depreciation offer that I pulled outta my butt. Instead, the DCUM apologists go off on the cost of the boogie board, who owns the house, whether or not OP should leave something there, etc. That’s not the point. It’s not like these are random family members. Have the same respect for OP and her possessions that you’re demanding she have for the cousin. They’re both permitted to use the place and leave things there, per house rules. Or do you people all just assume the rules aren’t ever meant for you?

100% this. the entitlement on this thread is disgusting. OP has every right to have the boogie board replaced.
and for those questioning the cost. my son has a $300 boogie board. Night and day compared to a $30 version.

It’s a boogie board FFS. People who pay that much for a GD boogie board, regardless of its alleged “performance “, and then complain about the cost to replace it are assholes.

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Anonymous wrote:The families have an established procedure. They have a separate shed we’re families member place things that shouldn’t be shared. There is nothing rude or problematic about this.

Everyone respected this rule except the cousin who was tempted by the expensive board. Who knows maybe this cousin is a big jerk and just helps himself to the stuff he isn’t supposed to use all the time. He got caught and destroyed something that he shouldn’t have had anyway.

Not to mention, f my kid or guests kid destroyed something that was in the communal living area I would replace that item. This is a family home not an Airbnb with a security deposit.

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+1 Cousin has been brought up by his mother to think he doesn’t have to play by the rules and is entitled to use other people’s property. Shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to DCUM to remind us yet again how entitled and disrespectful people are. What about basic respect for someone else’s property? If my child or my guest broke something, I would replace it, and I wouldn’t start out with some BS depreciation offer that I pulled outta my butt. Instead, the DCUM apologists go off on the cost of the boogie board, who owns the house, whether or not OP should leave something there, etc. That’s not the point. It’s not like these are random family members. Have the same respect for OP and her possessions that you’re demanding she have for the cousin. They’re both permitted to use the place and leave things there, per house rules. Or do you people all just assume the rules aren’t ever meant for you?

100% this. the entitlement on this thread is disgusting. OP has every right to have the boogie board replaced.
and for those questioning the cost. my son has a $300 boogie board. Night and day compared to a $30 version.

It’s a boogie board FFS. People who pay that much for a GD boogie board, regardless of its alleged “performance “, and then complain about the cost to replace it are assholes.

But that's not your place to say, now is it? You don't get to arbitrarily determine the worth of something that someone else purchased, just because YOU think it's stupid and you're not into boogie boards. It's so freaking entitled of you to dismiss the value of this because you think it's stupid. Maybe their kid has had his eye on this boogie board for months. Maybe he's taking boogie board lessons. Who knows? Guess what? I'm not into boogie boards either and I probably wouldn't pay that kind of money for one either because they're not my thing. But you can bet your a$$ I would replace one if my kid or my guest ruined it. Refusing to do so because you deem it unworthy makes you the a-hole.

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Anonymous wrote:Cousins and parents of the brat who broke it should split the full replacement cost.

Here’s what: replacement cost of a USED item is not a NEW item.

Who is to assess the value, though?

Well apparently, some of these rocket scientists believe they can determine value simply because THEY wouldn't spend $275 on this item. Irrelevant. There is an established long-standing family rule (again, which many of these people can't seem to understand because rules clearly aren't meant for THEM...) that things that are not to be shared are to be stored away in a separate shed. Despite the fact the boogie board was taken from that separate shed, used, and then broken...the expectation of some on this board is that the OP should just shrug and keep quiet about this. Oh, and the aunt (who is ONE of several owners, including the OP's parent(s)) should just ban her and her family from using the beach house forever--for speaking up for herself.

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Anonymous wrote:Cousins and parents of the brat who broke it should split the full replacement cost.

Here’s what: replacement cost of a USED item is not a NEW item.

Who is to assess the value, though?

Well apparently, some of these rocket scientists believe they can determine value simply because THEY wouldn't spend $275 on this item. Irrelevant. There is an established long-standing family rule (again, which many of these people can't seem to understand because rules clearly aren't meant for THEM...) that things that are not to be shared are to be stored away in a separate shed. Despite the fact the boogie board was taken from that separate shed, used, and then broken...the expectation of some on this board is that the OP should just shrug and keep quiet about this. Oh, and the aunt (who is ONE of several owners, including the OP's parent(s)) should just ban her and her family from using the beach house forever--for speaking up for herself.

Well said, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d bet $20 bucks that the cousin not the friends kid broke it or even stole it.

Agree. It’s not cracked, it’s disappeared.

+1. Did you see a photo of the damaged BB ,OP? I bet it was stolen.